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  • 'Survival' or merely minimalist camping?

    I sometimes get the feeling that some grown-up people that are not used to camping a lot try to make their trip out there more dramatical by calling it 'survival' for their blog or youtube channel.
    It is a word that grab the imagination, but really, if you ever were in such a situation--it's no joke!
    I blame false media and TV shows for this huge misconception.
    [Or egos?]

    Even sleeping outside in nature for a night or two in a self made debris shelter are most of the times merely minimalist camping and still not 'survival'!
    We all like to go out there and practice our 'survival' skills, [me too] but then it is training and not real survival.

    I wish we could just not mislead some inexperienced or younger outdoor enthusiasts by letting them believe to camp out in a 'primitive' way equals real 'survival'.
    We have to encourage 'primitive' or minimalistic camping though ,as it definitely can prepare you for one day in the unlikely event you do find yourself in a real survival situation.
    Let us not get too carried away by this multi-million dollar 'survival' business and media 'survival' hype and continue to enjoy our camping [in whichever way] to the full.

    Even on a Boys Scout etc youngster camp some of these young and enthusiastic lads crude overnight shelters are merely supervised camping, though to boost their self confidence we sometimes tell them 'wow,you survived' etc--but that is altogether a different matter !

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    Last edited by Sekelbos; 03-25-2019, 12:36 AM.
    The eye sees only what the mind is able to comprehend..

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    Nice post............I have done a lot of survival camping. It was never fun, or educational. Just terrifying.
    Last edited by Sourdough; 03-25-2019, 02:32 PM.
    One day you eat the chicken.....next day the left-over chicken.....next five days you eat chicken feathers, head and feet.

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    • #3
      If I am not out for at least 2 weeks with only 3-5 days of food, I don't even consider it "training". If I am out and have everything I need, it is just camping. I refuse to go "glamping" though. To hell with that.

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      • #4
        Sekelbos - Glad to see you again. Seems like it's been awhile. Great post and points. Guess we're never survival camping unless there are no options...
        I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by CountryGuy View Post
          Sekelbos - Glad to see you again. Seems like it's been awhile. Great post and points. Guess we're never survival camping unless there are no options...
          Like somebody explained it to me some time ago..

          If in a crisis situation you only have with you what's in your pockets, its survival-
          If you have a backpack or BOB etc, then it's just some rough camping...

          Take care!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sekelbos View Post

            Like somebody explained it to me some time ago..

            If in a crisis situation you only have with you what's in your pockets, its survival-
            If you have a backpack or BOB etc, then it's just some rough camping...

            Take care!]
            I don't think your statement is correct, or maybe accurate is a better choice of word, based on my personal experiences.

            Your statement of "Just rough camping" implies there is a high probability of returning either alive or with most of your body parts.

            One day you eat the chicken.....next day the left-over chicken.....next five days you eat chicken feathers, head and feet.

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            • #7
              That is correct...
              The eye sees only what the mind is able to comprehend..

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sekelbos View Post
                That is correct...
                However that is "NOT" a known fact at departure.

                Therefore "survival" situations have zero to do with EDC or having a plush camp.
                One day you eat the chicken.....next day the left-over chicken.....next five days you eat chicken feathers, head and feet.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sekelbos View Post
                  Like somebody explained it to me some time ago..

                  If in a crisis situation you only have with you what's in your pockets, its survival-
                  If you have a backpack or BOB etc, then it's just some rough camping...
                  I like that and I get the point...

                  If you're not prepared say a person that goes on a hike in the desert with 3 swallows of water in a bottle, they are going to find themselves in survival mode pretty quick

                  Where as the prepared person with a pack, gear etc is just that, prepared.

                  Originally posted by Sourdough View Post
                  Your statement of "Just rough camping" implies there is a high probability of returning either alive or with most of your body parts.
                  Sourdough... not totally sure what your reading into there. but his statement has validity, would you rather find yourself in the middle of no where with a marble and a Chiclet in your pocket or with a BOB on your back?!? I don't think it had anything to do with EDC but rather to compare the typical sheep walking around unprepared for anything vs being aware and prepared to any level.

                  Also, as I recall Sekelbos lives over across the pound somewhere in North Africa(??) where there are plenty of things that are also willing to eat you and poop you out.
                  Last edited by CountryGuy; 03-26-2019, 07:46 PM.
                  I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you!

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