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  • Sourdough
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    Bump.........fairly good thread.

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  • tmttactical
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    Being a desert dweller, I will pass on the swamps and snow covered (white fluffy crap). I don't do bugs, humidity of frost bitten body parts. Give me 120*F any day.

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  • RICHFL
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    I have some experience with black bear while living on a farm. two times I had to kill one while trying to save someone else life.

    First was when one raided our chicken coop in the middle of the night. My Uncle was first out the door with his shotgun problem was he had N0. 7 shot for birds in it. I came second with a 30-30 Winchester 1894 model I had to take the kill shot because the shotgun only pissed off the bear and he came for my Uncle to kill.

    The second was when I was 18 home on leave and we went to pick berry s Did not know for over 1 hour that a bear was only 20-30 feet away from use. Something set the bear off and I had younger kids to protect, so my 30-30 did its job again. Did not have time to really aim, but kept putting rounds into it until my magazine was empty.

    Do I hate the bears involved? No, just sad that I had to do, what I did.

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  • dalewick
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    Originally posted by SonofLiberty View Post

    LOL, Uncle Sam put you through it. I do it for "fun". Deet does nothing but make my skin feel greasy. I haven't had any real issues with leeches. I always "batten down the hatches" including blousing my boots tightly. I don't get in the swamp waters naked, that is for sure lol.
    I guess I did go through a lot for Uncle Sam. Had a problem with saying "send me". Didn't know when to stop saying it. LOL! Learned to stop when it cost someone else for my decision. Saw a lot. Did a lot. Survived when I shouldn't have. Lost a lot. Seems like another lifetime now.

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  • SonofLiberty
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    Originally posted by dalewick View Post



    I don't think the mosquitos own the FL swamps. Pretty sure they have some kind of a timeshare arrangement with the leeches, deer flies, chiggers, tics and others. LOL! I spent more than one sleepless night in FL swamps while completing jungle training for uncle Sam. Pretty sure the mosquitos used DEET as BBQ sauce.

    Dale
    LOL, Uncle Sam put you through it. I do it for "fun". Deet does nothing but make my skin feel greasy. I haven't had any real issues with leeches. I always "batten down the hatches" including blousing my boots tightly. I don't get in the swamp waters naked, that is for sure lol.

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  • dalewick
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    Originally posted by SonofLiberty View Post

    Might be, I don't know for sure. Apparently, there are still cobras down there even today though. I have never seen one outside of a zoo; and I am just as happy for the lack. Pythons are everywhere comparatively speaking, but I have only encountered 1 anaconda that I am aware of. Mosquitoes own the swamps. Burning dog fennel helps, but you really want some good netting while sleeping.
    One good cold winter will get rid of most of Florida's exotic reptiles. Unless they can find underground burrows deep enough to prevent freezing even the pythons will die from a good freeze. Can't say that for FL exotic mammals and birds though. It was strange seeing monkey's at Silver Springs this summer. Hadn't seen them since I was over seas.

    I don't think the mosquitos own the FL swamps. Pretty sure they have some kind of a timeshare arrangement with the leeches, deer flies, chiggers, tics and others. LOL! I spent more than one sleepless night in FL swamps while completing jungle training for uncle Sam. Pretty sure the mosquitos used DEET as BBQ sauce.

    Dale

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  • SonofLiberty
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    Originally posted by dalewick View Post

    Is this from back when the U.S. Fish and Wildlife lost there holding facility in Dade county? Had more than enough cobras and other venomous snakes in Asia and South America without them following me home. Come to think of it, there were way to many Crocs in Asia along with everything else that bites, stings, claws, scratches and bites. LOL! Australia was just as bad as Asia and
    Central and South America weren't any better.

    Travel...It broadens the mind and creates nightmares. LOL!

    Yes, I know I said BITES, TWICE. Was thinking about mosquitos and leeches at that moment.


    Dale
    Might be, I don't know for sure. Apparently, there are still cobras down there even today though. I have never seen one outside of a zoo; and I am just as happy for the lack. Pythons are everywhere comparatively speaking, but I have only encountered 1 anaconda that I am aware of. Mosquitoes own the swamps. Burning dog fennel helps, but you really want some good netting while sleeping.

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  • dalewick
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    Originally posted by SonofLiberty View Post
    It isn't just the gators. We got Pumas, bears, pythons, anacondas, some crocodiles, and then other animals that can't actually eat you themselves but can turn you into worm food like cobras and other venomous snakes. . OTOH, the swamps are teeming with food.
    Is this from back when the U.S. Fish and Wildlife lost there holding facility in Dade county? Had more than enough cobras and other venomous snakes in Asia and South America without them following me home. Come to think of it, there were way to many Crocs in Asia along with everything else that bites, stings, claws, scratches and bites. LOL! Australia was just as bad as Asia and
    Central and South America weren't any better.

    Travel...It broadens the mind and creates nightmares. LOL!

    Yes, I know I said BITES, TWICE. Was thinking about mosquitos and leeches at that moment.


    Dale

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  • SonofLiberty
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    Originally posted by dalewick View Post

    I'll take bears over gators EVERY DAY. There is something in those reptile eyes that give you no place to hide and very little chance of surviving. I trapped beaver down in NC for 2 years and had a few encounters with large gators eating the beavers out of my traps. Had one very large (about 14 foot) gator that I got way to close to in a small fiberglass kayak. He was maybe 8 feet away and I didn't move as I floated by thinking I was getting ready to be eaten. Only had a 22 pistol with me that day so all I can figure was it wasn't my day to die. Daughter lives in FL now and I still don't like gators.

    Dale
    It isn't just the gators. We got Pumas, bears, pythons, anacondas, some crocodiles, and then other animals that can't actually eat you themselves but can turn you into worm food like cobras and other venomous snakes. . OTOH, the swamps are teeming with food.

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  • dalewick
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    Originally posted by SonofLiberty View Post

    LOL, not looking to be bait. Besides, I don't have to go all the way to Alaska if I did want to. I could just go out to the swamps down here with no weapons. There are a lot of creatures down here that think they are still at the top of the food chain. If you don't pay attention, they will show you what is what .
    I'll take bears over gators EVERY DAY. There is something in those reptile eyes that give you no place to hide and very little chance of surviving. I trapped beaver down in NC for 2 years and had a few encounters with large gators eating the beavers out of my traps. Had one very large (about 14 foot) gator that I got way to close to in a small fiberglass kayak. He was maybe 8 feet away and I didn't move as I floated by thinking I was getting ready to be eaten. Only had a 22 pistol with me that day so all I can figure was it wasn't my day to die. Daughter lives in FL now and I still don't like gators.

    Dale

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  • SonofLiberty
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    Originally posted by dalewick View Post

    My job title was Wildlife Biologist/Government trapper & hunter. Did that for a decade and then worked as a federal Park Ranger for another decade.

    The guy that had the job title of "bait" (Biological Technician), actually worked up on Kodiak Island, by himself, living in a tent in the open for 6 months out of the year. His job was counting the brown bears that went past him all day long. I turned that job down. You looking for employment? They will be hiring soon for next summer and I'll bet they have positions open. LOL!

    Dale
    LOL, not looking to be bait. Besides, I don't have to go all the way to Alaska if I did want to. I could just go out to the swamps down here with no weapons. There are a lot of creatures down here that think they are still at the top of the food chain. If you don't pay attention, they will show you what is what .

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  • dalewick
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    Originally posted by SonofLiberty View Post
    Interesting job. What is your job title? Bait?
    My job title was Wildlife Biologist/Government trapper & hunter. Did that for a decade and then worked as a federal Park Ranger for another decade.

    The guy that had the job title of "bait" (Biological Technician), actually worked up on Kodiak Island, by himself, living in a tent in the open for 6 months out of the year. His job was counting the brown bears that went past him all day long. I turned that job down. You looking for employment? They will be hiring soon for next summer and I'll bet they have positions open. LOL!

    Dale
    Last edited by dalewick; 10-23-2018, 07:49 PM. Reason: Added content.

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  • SonofLiberty
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    Interesting job. What is your job title? Bait?

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  • dalewick
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    Originally posted by Morgan101 View Post
    We need to have Dalewick offer his expertise on this one, but I thought he posted some time ago the mama Black bears aren't nearly as protective of cubs as mama Grizzlies. If we could find it somewhere in the old posts there is a picture of Black bear cubs playing on a golf course. they are on a green playing with the flagstick. Whoever took the pictures was pretty close. We all wondered if Mama bear thought it would be as cute.

    I found the old post. It is Pole Dancer on the 7th Green.
    Black bears are a large carnivore but they aren't near as protective of there cubs as are Grizzlies. I have trapped and assisted trapping many black bears (Over 100) for biological studies and for animal damage control. This would include hand catching young cubs while mama was in a foot snare or just scarred away from her cubs. While the females would show very aggressive behavior towards the ones with her cubs, I have never been charged by a sow bear protecting her cubs. Black bears are actually fairly easily intimidated by being loud, making yourself look large and acting aggressive towards the bear. This is what you do with black bears so that they run away. Never run away. They will chase you down and kill you or at least maul you. Also, never, ever try that with a grizzly bear. It will kill you.

    There is a time when a black bear will attack you. When they are looking at you as prey. If it is hunting and you do not have a weapon you are going to have to fight for your life. Use whatever weapon you have at hand even if it is only sand to throw in it's eyes or a rock to throw at it. A rock the size of a soft ball, kept me from being mauled by a predating bear. I was working and had left my rifle in the jeep. Knowing your being hunted at close range is a very bad feeling. That same bear attacked 2 other people before being put down. Like the boss said,...It's all part of the job.

    Dale

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  • Morgan101
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    We need to have Dalewick offer his expertise on this one, but I thought he posted some time ago the mama Black bears aren't nearly as protective of cubs as mama Grizzlies. If we could find it somewhere in the old posts there is a picture of Black bear cubs playing on a golf course. they are on a green playing with the flagstick. Whoever took the pictures was pretty close. We all wondered if Mama bear thought it would be as cute.

    I found the old post. It is Pole Dancer on the 7th Green.
    Last edited by Morgan101; 10-23-2018, 08:17 AM. Reason: Add.

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