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  • 10 items

    what would be your 10 items if you were going to be on tv show alone to outlast the other folks.? for use on vancover island....i would like to get on show if it was back to vancover..i love PNW i am odd man out most tie as i love rain..if put there i would pray for rain...to beat down my competition...lol...i am older now and i do get colder easier at night but i can fix that. i liked working in the rain in the woods of the cascades back in the day.

    list from season 3..i think..about only thing changed last couple season is food rations are no longer 5# they been downsized to 2.5# that about makes it hardly worth to me when you really count calories..better off gaining those extra pounds on your body then take extra gear.,,my 2 cents.
    • Hunting Survival Knife
    • Pocket Knife
    • Multitool
    • Sleeping Bag
    • Bivi Bag (sleeping bag cover)
    • Sleeping Pad (Already included in list above)
    • Hammock
    • 12′ x 12′ Tarp (In addition to the two tarps already provided)
    • Ferro Rod or Flint
    • Hatchet
    • Axe (any length)
    • Bow Saw or Pruning Saw
    • Small Shovel
    • 550 Paracord (60 feet)
    • Climbing Rope (25 feet)
    • Cooking Pot with Lid (2-quart max)
    • Large Frying Pan
    • Eating Bowl with Spoon
    • Canteen / Water Bottle
    • 120 feet of Dental Floss
    • Fishing Gear (300 “total yards” of fishing line with 25 assorted hooks)
    • Recurve Wooden Bow with 6 Arrows (Field or Hunting tips, your choice, it doesn’t seem to matter)
    • Sling Shot
    • Gill Net (5′ x 30′)
    • 3.5 pounds small gauge wire
    • Sharpening Stone
    • Roll of Duct Tape or Electrical Tape
    • Compact Sewing Kit
    • Hygiene Kit (Shampoo, Bar of Soap, Toothpaste, Comb, Towel, Wash Cloth, Razor, extra bag)
    • Extra Flashlight
    • 5 pounds of Pemmican Emergency Food Rations
    • 5 pounds Beef Jerky
    • 5 lbs Chocolate
    • 5 lbs Gorp (Trail Mix)
    • 5 lbs Bitlong Dried Meat
    • 5 pounds Flour
    • 5 pounds Military Biscuits
    • 2 pounds Sugar or Rice and 1 pound of Salt
    Last edited by elkhound; 12-18-2018, 09:17 PM.

  • #2
    It would depend on where you are going to be. If back to Vancouver, fishing is paramount and crabbing a close second(see season 2). If back to Patagonia, I would learn to stalk and trap hogs. Fishing would be #2 imo. Like you, I would store extra calories on my body before starting the trip instead of taking food. I would have a plan for my shelter and build it starting day one along with setting trout lines and various traps. I would learn to make and use throwing sticks, shepherds slings, and an atlatl. There were lots of waterfowl that everyone seems to ignore. As for the 10, assuming PNW, and ignoring the items we get free, I would take
    1) Axe 20"
    2) Bow saw
    3) Multitool(Leatherman Core if I can choose)
    4) 1 large pot (no more than 2 quarts; includes lid; the lid would be deep enough to function as a frying pan)
    5) Titanium canteen
    6) Gill Net
    7) Gill Net
    8) 300-yard roll of a single filament fishing line / 25 assorted Hooks
    9) 300-yard roll of a single filament fishing line / 25 assorted Hooks
    10) 12x12 tarp with grommets

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    • #3
      It's really too bad I will never get the chance. I think I could win. I don't have the personal drama and love being by myself for long periods of time. They wouldn't find me "dramatic" enough lol.

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      • #4


        Priorities:

        1. Shelter - 3 hours without you may die.
        2. Fresh water source - 3 days or you may die
        3. Fire - without heat you can not keep 1 and 2 above
        4. Food source - No food die within 30 days and will become nonfunctional after 2 weeks.
        5. Security - needs to be addressed

        OK here is my list:

        1) 12x20 tarp or 25x100 plastic sheeting.

        2) 300 yards roll fishing line 135 lbs. Fishing and to tie thing together.

        3) trail boss axe for protection and infrastructure building

        4) fixed blade knife protection, cutting, fire building

        5) ferro rod 8" long or flint plus steel fire making

        6) sleeping bag

        7) cook pot cast iron dutch oven

        8) 2 qt canteen metal

        9) 5 lbs beef jerky Use for energy until food source established

        10) deck of playing cards keep me sane
        Last edited by RICHFL; 12-20-2018, 11:55 PM.

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        • #5
          everything i take would be modified or have some sort of 'hack' to it. i.e. fowler..winner of season 3..was allowed to substitute a circle sewing hook for one of his fish hooks. he also wasnt going to be allowed his orange vest.but it was ok if it was part of his coat as a 'liner',so his wife modified into his coat for easy removal.

          1. husky carpenters axe..modified with nail pulling feature like carpenters hatchets have.
          2. 2 quart SS pot with built in strainer with coffee pot pour spout.also has recessed lid.
          3.leathermen core..i have one i modified that has a rapala filet knife in it and a metal cutting hacksaw blade along with other mods.
          4.-50f sleeping bag
          5.ferro rod...scored in center with drill holes on each end this way i can break it after bring dropped off and put some found rope in holes and have 2 ferro rods to counter possible lose of one.
          6.silky saw
          7.fishing line and hooks
          8. gill net
          9. clear tarp like dave had on season 3 so shelter will be more suited to do things inside.it really rains a lot there and some days you will be staying inside especially as time goes on and you wear down.
          10. specialty tarp...to make a boat from.theres way more fishing in that area than we are seeing but its in deeper waters. cod and halibut..i would use found cordage and make the wooden hooks like natives did to run vertical set lines in various spots to find a 'honey hole' then concentrate them(set lines) after finding the fish.


          i would commit several survival sins on tv and folks would gasp...lol..like drinking the water there.its best water on the planet.
          they give you 2 cheap 12x12 tarps..i would cut one in half..gasp..lol...that way i have 2 pieces 6x12 for walls on shelter.i would build a yurt.24ft circumference would give you a shelter approx 8ft across.plenty of room yet small enough to heat easily.

          my items 9 and 10 i kind of waffle back and forth not knowing details of exact things they are and are not allowed to do. i know in past they were allowed to hunt deer. so i might try and take bow and hunt deer and waterfowl if allowed.i would want to try and figure a way out to have/make a sitka deer call. and take either more fishhooks/line or another gill net. these last choices would be hard for me and i would have to make them after gaining more knowledge of exact details of situation. 1-8 are my solid choices.

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          • #6
            3 clothing items i would want is plastic wide brim hardhat with chin strap,never gets soggy and sheds water perfect all the time. i lived in area so i know how much it rains and what works in the bush. HH rain gear bibs/coat. also i would want wool bibs modified to knicker length.long pants legs only stay soaked there and working along shoreline.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RICHFL View Post

              Priorities:

              1. Shelter - 3 hours without you may die.
              2. Fresh water source - 3 days or you may die
              3. Fire - without heat you can not keep 1 and 2 above
              4. Food source - No food die within 30 days and will become nonfunctional after 2 weeks.
              5. Security - needs to be addressed

              OK here is my list:

              1) 12x20 tarp or 25x100 plastic sheeting.

              2) 300 yards roll fishing line 135 lbs. Fishing and to tie thing together.

              3) trail boss axe for protection and infrastructure building

              4) fixed blade knife protection, cutting, fire building

              5) ferro rod 8" long or flint plus steel fire making

              6) sleeping bag

              7) cook pot cast iron dutch oven

              8) 2 qt canteen metal

              9) 5 lbs beef jerky Use for energy until food source established

              10) deck of playing cards keep me sane
              you dont get the option of taking playing cards,

              you only get a 2 lb ration since season 3, but you can take 2 of them if you wish, of different types.

              the fishing line can not be braided, nor stronger than 20 lb test

              the tarp is restricted in size to 12x12 ft.

              the cookpot or skillet are restricted in size to 2 qts

              the ferrorod, canteen and sleeping bag are wasted picks, if you know anything. The axe, belt knife, jerky are inferior picks. If you go to vancover island, take pemmican, cause you'll have a source of salt. The other locations require you to take the 3 lb block of sea salt. You need a projectile weapon, and a way to make lots of netting.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by elkhound View Post
                everything i take would be modified or have some sort of 'hack' to it. i.e. fowler..winner of season 3..was allowed to substitute a circle sewing hook for one of his fish hooks. he also wasnt going to be allowed his orange vest.but it was ok if it was part of his coat as a 'liner',so his wife modified into his coat for easy removal.

                1. husky carpenters axe..modified with nail pulling feature like carpenters hatchets have.
                2. 2 quart SS pot with built in strainer with coffee pot pour spout.also has recessed lid.
                3.leathermen core..i have one i modified that has a rapala filet knife in it and a metal cutting hacksaw blade along with other mods.
                4.-50f sleeping bag
                5.ferro rod...scored in center with drill holes on each end this way i can break it after bring dropped off and put some found rope in holes and have 2 ferro rods to counter possible lose of one.
                6.silky saw
                7.fishing line and hooks
                8. gill net
                9. clear tarp like dave had on season 3 so shelter will be more suited to do things inside.it really rains a lot there and some days you will be staying inside especially as time goes on and you wear down.
                10. specialty tarp...to make a boat from.theres way more fishing in that area than we are seeing but its in deeper waters. cod and halibut..i would use found cordage and make the wooden hooks like natives did to run vertical set lines in various spots to find a 'honey hole' then concentrate them(set lines) after finding the fish.


                i would commit several survival sins on tv and folks would gasp...lol..like drinking the water there.its best water on the planet.
                they give you 2 cheap 12x12 tarps..i would cut one in half..gasp..lol...that way i have 2 pieces 6x12 for walls on shelter.i would build a yurt.24ft circumference would give you a shelter approx 8ft across.plenty of room yet small enough to heat easily.

                my items 9 and 10 i kind of waffle back and forth not knowing details of exact things they are and are not allowed to do. i know in past they were allowed to hunt deer. so i might try and take bow and hunt deer and waterfowl if allowed.i would want to try and figure a way out to have/make a sitka deer call. and take either more fishhooks/line or another gill net. these last choices would be hard for me and i would have to make them after gaining more knowledge of exact details of situation. 1-8 are my solid choices.
                no, they give you CANVAS 20x20 and 10x10 tarps and you can take a 12x12 tarp as an option. it can be made of whatever material you wish it to be. You dont get two of the optional tarps

                the other locations have not offered much in the way of "found" cordage. you're very foolish to count upon that. Take a cotton rope hammock and you can make 5x as much cordage and netting as you're allowed to take in the form of the paracord and the gillnet. Drinking un-treated water is just ASKING to get pulled from the show. You can stone boil gallons of water at a time, in pit lined with a chunk of tarp and store 2 gallons of it in the sleeves of the rainsuit jacket. The saw is a wasted pick and you can't have a saw blade in the multitool or it'll be counted as another item. Instead, add 8" of saw edge to one side of the Cold Steel shovel.

                You need the 12x12 tarp's material for clothing, food storage bags, a fire light reflector to attract fish, dry bag for your tinder. We KNOW that you can;t cut up the 10x10 tarp and since nobody ever has cut up the 20x20 tarp, the same probably goes for it. So make your shelter out of the 20x20 tarp and use the 10x10 tarp to make a folded in half, edges tied, 12" thick debris stuffed "blanket". Sleep on 18" of dry debris and pull the blanket over you. It barely freezes on the shoreline of van couver island, so this is all the protection you'll need, if you know to size your many layers of clothing to allow for stuffing debris between the layers. In colder locales, you make a triangular 4x4x7 ft pole frame, fold the 20x20 in half, stuff it with 6" of debris, and drape it over the pole frame of the little sleeping shelter. Set this shelter on an 8x5 ft pole box, 18" high, stuffed with dry debris.

                In order to put the 5 ft wide, debris-stuffed blanket inside of the 4x4 triangular polle shelter, the edges of the blanket half to be tucked under itself, doming it up in the center, making room for your body. With the clothing, debris between the layers and the 18" of debris all around you, you wont need a warming fire until it's colder than -20F. I was unable to test this system at colder temps. You MIGHT need 4 head sized hot rocks, down in pits, surrounded by wood ashes, for the last 2 weeks of the 100 days in the sub-arctic. A Siberian fire lay will heat the rocks enough in half an hour, and then they will warm you for 4 hours.

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                • #9
                  there are 5 easy ways to start fires without the ferrorod. Bow drill sucks, so it's not one of the 5.. you can bury your coals and some charcoal in your ashes and keep the fire alive for 12+ hours, so the ferrorod is a wasted pick.

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                  • #10
                    I'd want a 4x4 ft triangle of clear PEVA shower curtain, double thickness, taped into my reflective tarp as part of the 12x12, 144 sq ft of tarp. Then the opening of the shelter can be covered, yet admit light. The big roll of duct tape is an essential item, for many reasons Fire starting, making water-tight bags, air-tight shelter, clothing and water wings (out of the 12x12 reflective tarp) pontoons for the outrigger raft (out of the life vest, backpack and 2 layers of clothing. While still at home, waterproof spray the backpack and the clothing.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SonofLiberty View Post
                      It would depend on where you are going to be. If back to Vancouver, fishing is paramount and crabbing a close second(see season 2). If back to Patagonia, I would learn to stalk and trap hogs. Fishing would be #2 imo. Like you, I would store extra calories on my body before starting the trip instead of taking food. I would have a plan for my shelter and build it starting day one along with setting trout lines and various traps. I would learn to make and use throwing sticks, shepherds slings, and an atlatl. There were lots of waterfowl that everyone seems to ignore. As for the 10, assuming PNW, and ignoring the items we get free, I would take
                      1) Axe 20"
                      2) Bow saw
                      3) Multitool(Leatherman Core if I can choose)
                      4) 1 large pot (no more than 2 quarts; includes lid; the lid would be deep enough to function as a frying pan)
                      5) Titanium canteen
                      6) Gill Net
                      7) Gill Net
                      8) 300-yard roll of a single filament fishing line / 25 assorted Hooks
                      9) 300-yard roll of a single filament fishing line / 25 assorted Hooks
                      10) 12x12 tarp with grommets
                      You can't take more than one of any item on the gear list. The canteen is a wasted pick, since you can use the sleeves of of your rainsuit jacket as water containers The axe and saw are inferior picks. What will you use for sleeping gear and fire-starting? You need a projectile weapon, too. The slingbow is best, with 3 pc take down arrows, so you can always have the projectile weapon on your person. Rocks dont fly straight, so make 50 baked clay balls when you make the 3 one-gallon cookpots, with lids. and use the balls for small game. Reserve your arrows for big game or treed porcupines. Use blunts for the latter, with flu-flu fletching. Use the duct tape to fletch field made arrows for bow fishing.

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                      • #12
                        it amazes me how people who can't even read the gear list "think" that they'll do so well on the show. :-)

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                        • #13
                          10 items? I doubt you would be allowed that many, probably only 2 and thats if your that lucky.
                          1. knife.
                          2. spark striker.
                          anything else you can make from what you find, its called bushcraft, if you cant do that then you probably shouldnt be going on the show.
                          Last edited by grumpygremlin; 04-17-2021, 12:01 PM.

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                          • #14
                            you'd starve out or freeze out in month. Everyone would. Anyone who can't start a fire without a ferrorod doesn't belong on the show. I'd much rather have the saw-edged Cold Steel shovel than any knife. This drill makes friction fire easy and reliable. not much stress on the cordage, either. I made mine in half a day, using 7" long, 4" OD logs as the counter-weights, notching the top of the spindle and driving in a wedge, and quarter splitting the bottom of the spindle, fitting a 4 sided, tapering tang tip, so I didn't have to drill any holes. Once you get a fire, you can just bury your coals in the ashes, with some charcoal and it'll stay "alive" 12+ hours. Also, once you have ashes and charred materials, you can rudiger roll some dried veggie items or use any hard sharp rock and the shovel to strike sparks.



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                            • #15
                              A Cold steel shovel,modified to have 8" of saw edge., real deal, with offset teeth. Flatten the curve of the blade on that side, so you can cut a kerf 2" deep. Do that all the way around an 8" OD log or tree and you can break it off with your body weight. Heartwood is not all that resistant to lateral forces. Take a highly modified Crunch multitool, a cotton rope hammock(makes 1800 sq ft of netting in 10 days or so. Every couple of days, you can put another baited net trap to work for you. Take the reflective 12x12 ft tarp, one of Chief Aj's slingbows, make baked clay balls for use on small stuff, bow fish with it, too. Take the big roll of duct tape, the 3 lb block of sea salt, the cookpot, the fishing kit, and the snarewire. Have a few feet of the wire be copper, so you can start fires with it and the headlamp battery. Take a bent sewing needle as one of your "fishhooks," and 24 of the largest single hooks allowed. Cut them in half with the Crunch and reforge the ends. Then bind them into 16 treblehooks, using the fishline. Put your main line thru all three of the "eyes". Use them for removing predators from your area, wiring them to 50 lbs of drag log. and to protect your food caches (have more than one cache). If you'll be on the sea, swap the salt for the 2 lb ration of pemmican.

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