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    What is your plan for vehicle fuel mileage

    Gas VS Diesel

    Whats' the MOST fuel efficient VEHICLE you know of?

    So of these Turbo Diesel cars are getting amazing mileage and can be coverted to run off vegetable oil

    Is this a better solution than a 40mpg or 50mpg hybrid?

    Let's discuss, and don't forget to cite the most fuel efficient motor vehicles we can find Scooter, motorcycles and bikes excluded

    TALK ABOUT IT ;)
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    Some food for thought

    Volkswagen Golf - Diesel 30/42
    Volkswagen Jetta Diesel 30/42
    Hyundai Elantra 29/40
    Audi A3 Diesel 30/42
    Honda Ingith 40/43

    What 4wd gets the best possible mileage?
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    • #3
      The only one I know of is the Toyota Prius 48/51 MPG. The Honda hybrid is 41/47? Not sure on that one tho.
      Now me personally I'm screwed. One truck get 6/9 MPG, the other is 5.6/ 7.8 mpg they will go anyplace haul anything trucks but gas hogs. And I am in no position to get another vehicle for a long while yet.
      Last edited by PT945; 04-26-2011, 05:39 PM.

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      • #4
        apparently alot of people are getting 45-50mpg in jetta & golf tdi's

        looking into this now myself as a possible shtf prep they can get upwards of 750+ miles per tank that's pretty amazing

        I can barely make it 250-300 miles in some of my vehicles lol
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        • #5
          Miss those old little diesel datsun and nissan pickups. how many HP are those VW's? Be cool to take a small turbo diesel and drop it into an old Jeep or Toyota pickup to get more room and capability with improved MPG. I know you'd loose some MPG due to the increased weight and 4WD...

          I had actually read in an off road forum last fall almost that very thing. There was a rumor Jeep was considering building a Wrangler with a turbo diesel in it. I think the motor was to be one they use in Europe in a liberty or cherokee type model? When I've tried searching the web I can't find anything. So I'm figuring it was just someones wishful thinking. Be cool though, especially in one of those 4 door jeeps.

          Question, could you take a motor out of a compact tractor and swap it into something like a Tacoma or Wrangler? I know that most of them are small 25-50HP and that getting up to a 50HP tractor is getting pretty big and pricey. But I still wonder if with that and a turbo added how hard it'd be to mount up to a tranny and stuff in between the fenders. I know some of those pro zero turn mowers with 3cyl turbo diesels put out around 34HP and those can do almost 20mph in a straight line on pavement.

          Also, could a gas engine block be used to build/ convert to a diesel motor? Thinking of taking like a 4.3L V6 chevy block

          I've got a 4cyl Camry I drive for work that I'm getting around 32mpg, I know a coworker with the hybrid model is getting around 40mpg. A lot more room and more comfortable than a prius.
          Last edited by CountryGuy; 05-12-2011, 11:58 PM.
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          • #6
            The issue for us is that we need something that can handle tough road conditions as we live at the end of miles of dirt road, which can be tough in mid winter and spring (mud). Not many vehicles get great milage that can handle that.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by herbalpagan View Post
              The issue for us is that we need something that can handle tough road conditions as we live at the end of miles of dirt road, which can be tough in mid winter and spring (mud). Not many vehicles get great milage that can handle that.
              I agree with you in the aspect that we are limited to what we can use if we want to function. The whole gas mileage thing is a good thing to consider for some people though. Around here the best bet would be a 4x4 diesel because of all the farm equipment that runs on it. Most farms have a storage tank of it also. If some people could anticipate how far they might have to go a stock pile could possibly be something to take into consideration, but hauling it could create issues also.

              It's definately something that has to be considered!

              It might sound funny, but the Amish in our area use the horse and buggy all the time. Alot of horses around here for sure. We plan on staying put, but if we have to move there are some areas within an hour we could disappear into. People are pretty close knit around here.
              Last edited by Snow Walker; 05-13-2011, 01:07 PM.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Diesel View Post

                What 4wd gets the best possible mileage?
                My 1984 M1008 CUCV 1 1/2 ton gets just over 20mpg with the 6.2 diesel. It tops out at about 70mph, but is great for the forest trails. I think the older 7.3 Ford diesel also get around 20 mph. Another advantage to my old truck is that I can run it on transmission fluid or any other type of waste oil. It also does not have a computer.

                Originally posted by CountryGuy View Post
                Also, could a gas engine block be used to build/ convert to a diesel motor? Thinking of taking like a 4.3L V6 chevy block
                Don't waste your time trying to convert a gas engine into a diesel. Oldsmobile tried it with their 350ci motors. They were a total POS. I think my 6.2 has a compression ratio of 21:1. With a gas engine for the street most are between 8.5:1 - 10.5:1.
                Last edited by Stitch; 05-13-2011, 01:43 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Stitch View Post
                  My 1984 M1008 CUCV 1 1/2 ton gets just over 20mpg with the 6.2 diesel. It tops out at about 70mph, but is great for the forest trails. I think the older 7.3 Ford diesel also get around 20 mph. Another advantage to my old truck is that I can run it on transmission fluid or any other type of waste oil. It also does not have a computer.



                  Don't waste your time trying to convert a gas engine into a diesel. Oldsmobile tried it with their 350ci motors. They were a total POS. I think my 6.2 has a compression ratio of 21:1. With a gas engine for the street most are between 8.5:1 - 10.5:1.
                  The M1008 CUCV is NOT a multi fuel engine.. how are you running transmission fluid or oil in it
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                  • #10
                    Diesel,
                    You are correct it is not a multi fuel engie. I can not run gasoline or JP5.
                    The original diesel engine was designed to run on peanut oil.
                    It runs on used tranny fluid just fine.
                    Stitch
                    Last edited by Stitch; 05-13-2011, 03:27 PM.

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                    • #11
                      but there's no fuel compensator so the fuel is of a different viscosity... it can't run very well?
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                      • #12
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                        I have put my used oil(engine and trans)right back in the fuel tank of every diesel I have.
                        (3 Duramax,2 Cummins,3 Cat,2 John Deere,1 International) with never a problem or ill effect.I have done this for about 15 years.
                        I have noticed about 2 psi. More boost on engines that I pull under a steady constant load. The oil seems to give an increase in power
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                        http://www.dieselplace.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=163219

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                        • #13
                          that's a WHOLE lot different than running it off one of those products a few quarts or even a gallon of oil mixed in with diesel will be fine and act as a lubricant.. but running straight off it it a different story
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                          • #14
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                            Saving At The Pump
                            Yes, that's right, used automatic transmission fluid. Richard Snyder has been running ATF as his primary fuel in his '02 7.3L Power Stroke for nearly two years now. When we caught up with him, he reported that the 90% ATF, 10% diesel mixture he's been burning has caused no problems to date.

                            He told us that the only time he experienced a loss in power was when running a 100% used ATF mixture.
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                            Read more: http://dieselpower.automotive.com/98...#ixzz1MGV6bbJX
                            Last edited by Stitch; 05-13-2011, 04:26 PM.

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                            • #15
                              I appreciate the answers, including the horse and buggy one! However, since it's 7 miles to the mailbox and a 45 minute drive to the town with the grocery, it's not a viable option. What we have done is keep our vehicle maintained to keep milage at it's highest and not go anywhere not nessesary. I go into town during the week and run errands while hubby is at work and I plan my route to make the most of the milage.

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