People are depending too much on gear and surivial supplies!

[HorseFeathers]

Great minds think alike lol :cool:

[HorseFeathers]

No one individual can gain the knowledge and be a master at each skill. That is why most preppers once they have established a plan of action and are well into gathering the items they need that they start looking into the areas they have short comings in like ER surgery or ham radio operations. They then expand their groups trying to find and fill those needs. My group is now at 8 full time members and a few extra part time preppers.

Great minds think alike :cool:

[kaz]

i studied a lot of primitive skills growing up {im now 50} im in good health. if i ever found myself out and about with only me, i guess id think hey i need shelter, i need fire, i need water, i need food. then id think i need a knife. and id set out to build one or something like one, from flint, a clam shell, old broken glass, ya know whatever i find. making and using a bow drill for drilling or for fire isnt all that hard to do., big rock makes a nice hammer, so does a small diam. log. stick can be a shovel of sorts, see where im getting at on this? gadgets are great and makes things easier. but when said gadget breaks you better have some way of replacing it, and if your going to use your hands and back for everything you better be in decent enough shape to handle that as well.i know my area. i know what grows that is medicine {not everything but enough to get by pretty good}, whats food {again not everything but everything i actually like and will and do eat.}.and other things like fish poison { its a good idea to know this as a fishing pole can leave you very hungry at times lol}. whats good for different kinds of cordage, whats good for tanning hides, how to tan hides, vegetable and brain tan, other poisons {stuff you want to avoid!}, stuff to keep bugs away, natural ways of keeping mosquitoes at bay.its all fun and happiness till night fall and those skeeters come out.they can drive a man nuts.stuff like that.thats what "i" believe you need to know. knowledge is one of the "tools" you can take with you if and when its "only" you ! but like was said you need decent health as well.

[zzak]

skeeters can't bite you thru an inch or so of dirt (or if you're underwater). If you're really being "bugged" and have no netting or repellant, and can't get submerged in water, dig a shallow trench, get into it and pull the excavated dirt over yourself. If you can arrange for some water over the dirt, that's even better. If you go underwater, some mud on your face and neck will make you relatively "unbitable" on your exposed parts. Get some sleep, then find a way to burn and smoke them away from you. Check out dave cantebury's youtube channel, about insecticidal plants. I believe it is the "tic-fern" that he recommends.

[shotgunpapa]

Bobbie I also had bad knees I could not walk a cross the room started vitamin D also fish oil now I'm walking 2 mile trap line every day. the Dr said I had to have knee replacement. but now I can wait. Don't know if it will work for you but give it a try, now I still have pain but not like I did and it is getting better all the time.

[RICHFL]

Lets review history and the disasters that have happened over the last 15 years.

Katerina: Even though the government told people to leave a lot of them did not. Why because they did not understand the situation, lacked experience, or were moved to stay in a familiar area.

Twin Towers: Most workers in those two buildings pushed buttons on computers or placed papers from one basket to another, many ran away then returned to try to help their fellow victims. Again because it was familiar territory.

Terrorist attacks around the nation: Many have happened that caused death and damage. People reacted by moving either away from the area or towards it to help. Those that moved towards it either had training or experience in this type of situation. i.e. first aid training, search and rescue training, etc.

Storms: Well we have all seen what happened with winter. People who have experience knew to stay indoors and not drive in it. Experience in a familiar situation.

My main point is in any given situation/disaster you will do one of two things; move away from the area because you have no experience in handling the situation or you move towards it to help because of experience/training. No one will just stand by and do nothing except the news media....! It is just a normal human reaction to disasters.

[CountryGuy]

Lets review history and the disasters that have happened over the last 15 years.

Katerina: Even though the government told people to leave a lot of them did not. Why because they did not understand the situation, lacked experience, or were moved to stay in a familiar area.

Twin Towers: Most workers in those two buildings pushed buttons on computers or placed papers from one basket to another, many ran away then returned to try to help their fellow victims. Again because it was familiar territory.

Terrorist attacks around the nation: Many have happened that caused death and damage. People reacted by moving either away from the area or towards it to help. Those that moved towards it either had training or experience in this type of situation. i.e. first aid training, search and rescue training, etc.

Storms: Well we have all seen what happened with winter. People who have experience knew to stay indoors and not drive in it. Experience in a familiar situation.

My main point is in any given situation/disaster you will do one of two things; move away from the area because you have no experience in handling the situation or you move towards it to help because of experience/training. No one will just stand by and do nothing except the news media....! It is just a normal human reaction to disasters.

Rich, Good points but one thing I'll add you also might find yourself in the middle of the event, not just as a passerby. For example with 9/11. I've heard the interviews with loved ones and some who escaped when they relay that people were being told "just stay here", "just wait", "help is on the way" and similar statements. I believe many people could have escaped had they only listened to themselves and not to those around and above them. Always remember, YOU and no one else is ultimately responsible for your own safety. Don't let fear of what, dirty looks? peer opinion? getting fired for walking out? stop you. I'll bet the hundreds that stayed in sheep mode instead of listening to their own head and gut that was screaming to get out long before things escalated to the point it became impossible to escape are looking down from the here after saying "...if I'd only listened to myself."

Same for Katrina, how many knew what a hurricane can bring, knew that they live in a city built below sea level yet they waited, thinking others had a better sense than their own, putting their trust, faith and safety into the hands of bureaucrats and others. Again, the sheeple led themselves to their own slaughter. Had they listened to that voice in themselves. I know in many sheeple that voice has been lulled to sleep and they barely hear it except for in the most dire of times. But then it is such a strange voice to them that they don't recognize it, much less heed it.