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how fast and accurate are you?

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  • how fast and accurate are you?

    I can toss up a couple of soda cans, draw from concealment and hit both of them in the air, about 3x out of 4 tries. To do this, I "cheat" a bit, tossing the cans with my left hand, while having my right hand in the pocket, on the butt of the pistol. However, nobody pays any attention to a guy with his hands in his pockets! :-) Drawing too soon can get you charged with brandishing, or worse, felony aggravated assault. A man can charge you, standing start and be all OVER you in 1.0 second, from 10 ft away and that distance or closer is the range at which civilian crap starts by far the greatest % of the time. I've pointed a gun at men 6x in my life and they all froze in place. But if they are too close to you when the gun comes out, or they dont see it in the dark, or you're too slow, then you have to fire and it's going to cost you 50k-500k to stay out of prison and 'un-sued". Just ask the kid with the AR who shot those 3 pos's who were trying to kill him. He had to post a million $ bond in order to get out and 10% of that will never be seen again. it's the bondsman's fee. He sat in jail for months and like George Zimmerman, he'll probably never be able to hold a job again. Nobody wants to risk having their biz burned down cause they hired him.

  • #2
    please show a video, would be interesting to see.


    • #3
      The one thing I trained for both in the military and as a deputy sheriff was distance equals life. You cannot draw aim and shoot someone who is less then 7 yards from you.

      If you carry at the low ready yes you can take a hip shot. We trained for it at 3, 7, 15, and 25 yards. Only at the 3 and 7 yards markets did we use the low ready position. All others were in the holster. Accuracy can and does improve with training and a lot of range time

      My final word is speed does not stop any one only accuracy does.


      • #4
        There's an old saying:

        Speed thrills, Accuracy kills.


        • #5
          LOL LOL LOL...drawing from the holster and shooting cans....Wow!!!

          You'd better know what you are doing speed drawing a loaded gun from the holster...any gun.....

          Too many movies and or television....

          Agree with RichFL on accuracy....

          I may be exaggerating this ..but it strikes me that in many shootings ...casings are all over the parking lots and alot of bullets expended before someone is shot....unless it is point blank surprise..

          It just strikes me that many are not good shooters out there....and often bystanders get shot.....

          Maybe this is a good thing....that many are not good shooters...except for the bystanders part..

          Am I exaggerating this thinking???

          My non Ishmaelite .02,

          Last edited by orangetom1999; 06-06-2021, 11:18 PM.


          • #6
            Originally posted by RICHFL View Post
            The one thing I trained for both in the military and as a deputy sheriff was distance equals life. You cannot draw aim and shoot someone who is less then 7 yards from you.
            7 yards equals 21 feet that is the Tueller Drill.

            Tueller Drill

            The Tueller Drill combines both parts of the original time trials by Tueller. There are several ways it can be conducted:

            1. The (simulated) attacker and shooter are positioned back-to-back. At the signal, the "attacker" sprints away from the shooter, and the shooter unholsters his gun and shoots at the target 21 feet (6.4 m) in front of him. The attacker stops as soon as the shot is fired. The shooter is successful only if his shot is good and if the runner did not cover 21 feet (6.4 m).
            2. A more stressful arrangement is to have the attacker begin 21 feet (6.4 m) behind the shooter and run towards the shooter. The shooter is successful only if he was able take a good shot before he is tapped on the back by the attacker.
            3. If the shooter is armed with only a training replica gun, a full-contact drill may be done with the attacker running towards the shooter. In this variation, the shooter should practice side-stepping the attacker while he is drawing the gun.

            There are pros and cons to the Tueller drill.

            Personally, I'd lean towards the sidestep the attacker.

            Last edited by Tugaloo; 07-31-2021, 08:57 AM.


            • #7
              If you want added advice run to the interviews of professional gun fighters from the old west. Almost all including wild bill stated accuracy instead of speed wins the day. There are many accounts of where and how gun fights happened. Take the OK corral the movies never got it right. See history channel to see the truth.


              • #8
                I'll add engage what the target offers; if all one can see is an appendage, shoot it and that requires accuracy.

                One of us shoots and the other standing behind throws something in somewhere in front of them. Not all shots hit the can; however, they are close enough no one would want to be the can.


                • #9

                  the final word?


                  • #10
                    Garand, As usual that is a keeper!

                    Years ago, playing Matt Dillion a sheriff, James Arness stared in a B&W TV show Gunsmoke. Every episode of the show began with Matt Dillion in a gunfight. The bad shot first, then, Matt.
                    As Matt didn't get hit; my father used to say see the first shot didn't win.


                    • #11
                      Smooth is fast without added motion.