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I was thinkin about buying one of those big army tents to live in when things get rough. I wanted to know if you guys thought that would be a good Idea. One of the problems I see with it though is whieght. they are very heavy so if you have to run you have to leave it behind. so then I was thinking about some little army pup tents to run with.
What is your goal or thought with a GP tent? A base camp or personal shelter?
If personal shelter, forget it get yourself a very nice waterproof, light weight 2-4 man tent.
I feel the best designs for water run off and rain issues have the bathtub style bottom, where the seam is about 8-12" off the ground.
If you don't know what I mean let me know, and i will dig up some examples
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For my BOB, I prefer the one man bivy tent....it's light, packs small, and I have a good quality one. D's right, those big CC tents are extremely heavy, and are usually packed in via motorcade.
Either set up a good BOL with a nice tent stashed, or bone up on your shelter-building skill set. ;)
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For my BOB, I prefer the one man bivy tent....it's light, packs small, and I have a good quality one. D's right, those big CC tents are extremely heavy, and are usually packed in via motorcade.
Either set up a good BOL with a nice tent stashed, or bone up on your shelter-building skill set. ;)
I have to agree...too big and bulky for quick moving.
I had an M-1950 in a shipping container on our property in N. AZ until I built the cabin..pulled it out, set it up...took about an hour...but there is NO way I'd be able to pack that thing around...
In the Army we errected squad tents, big enough for 14 persons. the tent would arrive on a 2.5 ton truck and 12 men would errect it. I believe it weighed 100's of pounds if not 1000 pounds. Surplus pup-tents leave alot to be desired as they are untreated cotton canvas with a short life span.
You can find synthetic tents that weigh a fraction of what even untreated canvas tents weigh, about 100 pounds for a 10x12 tent. Because they are synthetic with UV protector they will never rot and last for years, the price is often lower than cotton canvas. There are many tent manufactures that specialize in wall tents of various sizes even small tents. Just Google for wall tents or outfitter's tents. Also there are new synthetic versions of the jungle hammock, Pyramid tent, Baker tent etc. You can even have custom tents made.
In germany we had some artic vechicle repair tents that had 2 roof heights, they were huge and you needed a 5 ton wrecker with elevated boom to set it up. Handy tent if you have an army to help errect the thing. While I was 'fightin wild fires' last July the Montana food service vendor had modern circus tents for a dinning area. I think it was 3 tents seating 500 PPl!
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In germany we had some artic vechicle repair tents that had 2 roof heights, they were huge and you needed a 5 ton wrecker with elevated boom to set it up. Handy tent if you have an army to help errect the thing. While I was 'fightin wild fires' last July the Montana food service vendor had modern circus tents for a dinning area. I think it was 3 tents seating 500 PPl!
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thank you all so much for your imput. I'm goint to be taking your ideas into mind. I like the idea of having the wall tent that is somewhat light and large and some small tents to be more mobile with.
For a tent in a pack I like my Spectrum 23, definitely go for something light and water proof for a tent. Just build a shelter if you need something bigger it's not really that difficult once you get motivated. I like hogans, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hogan Also if you need to make insulated walls a good way is to put two rows of stakes in the ground like thus :::::::: and then layer grass, brush or branches in between. You can make some nice walls that way that will keep you protected. Use your creativity.
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Now the yurt is canvas which means that it would be heavy, bulky and would have a short lifespan right? I am really leaning towards the wall tent for a fixed shelter. But I would think that the cotton canvas would insulate better then synthetic material.
Some of the Syn-fabrics in use do insulate like cotton.
A traditional Yurt also called a Ger has a layer of wool felt over a wooden frame then a light canvas covering. Youtube has some neat vids of yurt construction. Yurts are not light weight and require 2 PPl to errect. The documentary film 'Cave of the yellow dog' shows Mongolians living and errecting a yurt.
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