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**bug_out** · 08-18-2008, 08:21 AM

Originally posted by Diesel View Post

What kind of BOL do you have?

I'm looking at buying large acreage up north possibly in Maine and putting up a small cabin off grid

What about you?

Since we are moving into the mountains shortly I decided to not worry about a back up BOL for now. I figured the dual citizenship thing or my friends that I'm leaving in Florida and their boat would suffice. I don't see me needed to bug out any further than where we are moving to in Tennessee. Let's hope I'm right.

**kenno** · 10-10-2008, 09:18 PM

I know this sounds impossible but I was not happy in Tx.
After I returned from the service I worked my way through the SW and up north. That was 35 years ago. I have a good place now with lots of survival atributes along with nasty winters to keep the Zombies at bay.

**Legionnaire** · 10-12-2008, 10:43 AM

I have several BOL's around me. Luckily I live in a very rural area of Northern Cal, google Siskiyou county. Sadly I don't have anything setup up at any of them, but I know the areas well and the resources around them. I have enough gear in my BOB, assuming I can get to it, to last me several months even in the dead of winter here. That would be plenty of time to get the BOL up and running. I chose several spots just in case something goes wrong with one or someone else is already there I can move along with minimal changes to my plans.

**sd allen** · 12-22-2008, 04:35 AM

Bol

I have several decent locations but one in particular.As a kid stomping through the woods,my brothers and I happend to find this cave.Probably more of a rock outcropping in the mountain right beside a good stream.The area is now a gated community with only foot access.the only real problem is going in the summer as the snakes would have to be cleared out.It has running water and free rent,enough room for forty men. I think I've told too many freinds I would ''bug out''there but they only know its general direction from the roadand have never been there.On the other hand ,someone has.when we found the place 20 years ago there had bee a fire-pit made for cooking and a wall built from the slabs of granite in and around the area. I think I'm gonna try to get back in there before spring. It's a good little hike , maybe 2 miles from the road. We ,as kids left dry wood ,a grill rack and a few means of fire stating.Dang,its been 20 years.

**Big_Saw** · 12-22-2008, 11:17 AM

Several....in each time zone.....it pays to have buddies....getchya some.
:rolleyes:

**Jeffro** · 12-22-2008, 11:23 AM

I actually have three in mind. All of which are along or near the Appalachian Trail. One is in the North GA area, one between Clingmans Dome and Boone, and the other in VA. I plan to scout them again late spring or early winter. I also have two friends and their families that we'll meet up with so that we don't have to survive alone. The AT can be easily navigated, and the terrain around it can be developed and defended if TSHTF. But we will be able to move quickly and easily if needed. Each family is already working on learining the terrain, memorizing the maps and the area, and preparing ourselves physically.

**West Texas!** · 12-30-2008, 01:09 PM

I just bought 5 acres...down by Pecos...it's flat.....but it'll be excellent for the micro wind turbines I have in mind...mebbe some solar....I really need to decide what kind of structure I'm going to build on it....want to get it built before summer hits...I hate swinging a hammer with sweaty hands....

**Rustyshakelford** · 12-30-2008, 01:37 PM

Originally posted by West Texas! View Post

I just bought 5 acres...down by Pecos...it's flat.....but it'll be excellent for the micro wind turbines I have in mind...mebbe some solar....I really need to decide what kind of structure I'm going to build on it....want to get it built before summer hits...I hate swinging a hammer with sweaty hands....

What did you give for it? Been looking at a small plot (5 acres) South of 20.

I love that comment "its flat". What isn't out here?

**lazer128** · 12-30-2008, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Rustyshakelford View Post

What did you give for it? Been looking at a small plot (5 acres) South of 20.

I love that comment "its flat". What isn't out here?

You got that right! The highest elevation is a highway overpass! :D

**West Texas!** · 12-31-2008, 03:19 AM

Originally posted by Rustyshakelford View Post

What did you give for it? Been looking at a small plot (5 acres) South of 20.

I love that comment "its flat". What isn't out here?

Everything is flat...I wish there was at least a small hill between the property and I-20...it's about 3 miles off the highway...

I picked it up for..hmmm..$4399 cash.
I'm thinking about picking up a conex for storage, and building a couple of these for a "cabin".

Starplate Building System

http://www.strombergschickens.com/starplate_building_system/starplate_index.php

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Also, much less framing lumber is required than with conventional “stud” construction so material costs are often up to 15% less.Looks like a simple frame to put up – how long does it take?To cut the struts, drill the bolt holes, and assemble the frame with the 11 connectors takes about 2 hours. If you’re using it as a collapsible display stand, it only takes about 20 minutes to bolt it together or take it down – perfect for easy set up. Greenhouses and screenhouses require less nailing and material cutting so are quicker to finish than, say, a carport on a foundation with an overhead door. One happy thought, greenhouses and screen houses can later be sided to make storage sheds or roofed to make a gazebo. 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I built one of these for a backyard shed in Phoenix...I figure I can pop up a couple with short walkways in between them...and have a decent little setup for under $2000 and a couple of weekends of work.

**Diesel** · 12-31-2008, 06:16 AM

great idea but i wish it didn't look like a dome, ugh

**West Texas!** · 12-31-2008, 09:19 AM

Originally posted by Diesel View Post

great idea but i wish it didn't look like a dome, ugh

Not a fan of the "dome" look myself...but when you consider the wind we have out here...I think it's a good idea to let the wind slip around the structure as opposed to slamming into it....

**kenno** · 12-31-2008, 01:49 PM

I'd find a (used) Qounset Hut, excavate a ditch or burm the Hut. The old WW2 Qounsets are quite sturdy.

**voodoo** · 12-31-2008, 03:37 PM

Star Plates are great! Used them several times and have a few sets put away for my next building venture. I've got 5.5 acres near Fort Davis, not flat, actually too steep!

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