There are a lot of places well suited to hide during the day. OTOH, not many want to practice using them.
NOLA was a good example of WROL.
BTW, the news media rented helicopters that could have and should have been used for rescuing people.
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Originally posted by RICHFL View PostOne problem based on 2 disasters, the police may come around to take your weapons with a local court order. Katrina and Sandy Hook is where it happened. Some of the weapons taken have never been recovered by their owners! So have them buried safe.
I don't know why, but apparently a domestic argument and firearms let the police search the house. Remember, he lived in California.
Anyhow, a friend saw a cop shooting his AK at the police range and took a picture.
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One problem based on 2 disasters, the police may come around to take your weapons with a local court order. Katrina and Sandy Hook is where it happened. Some of the weapons taken have never been recovered by their owners! So have them buried safe.
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Find a place to hide until matters settle down, then move. But where will one go is the question. That question should have been answered before you need the answer.
What if where you planned to go is already occupied?
A gun run through a 2 way range is not healthy for living things.
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Hard stand for a bit, to allow initial chaos to subside while watching how things are happening. This is the intelligence gathering phase, it allows a better plan to be formed. While it's true no plan survives first contact, it allows a better follow through. It shouldn't be a gun run though a hostile country, No need for that, it should be a road trip with a lot of possible routes to allow getaway.
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No matter if it is USSOCOM, LRRP or sniper skills, either requires training and a heck of a lot of it. It is not a read a book type of training.
I'll go with Garand's give it time to settle down and then move out for wherever. Crawl into a storm drain along side the streets and sleep during the day and move at night to the next storm drain or culvert.
If and when one gets out of the urban areas; just what the H do you have to survive and what survival skills do you have. Yeah, not much is the answer.
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Personally, I believe that a time limit of 6 weeks should be considered. At that point, if you are still in the city, you will probably know if this is a short term or long term event. If its a long term event, time to pack up what you can and move to your prepared secondary location. Past a 6 week period you will see a gradual dissolving of law enforcement operations and the start of medical problems, such as cholera, etc.
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In many homes, the bedroom is at the end of a windowless hallway. Place a nightlight where it will backlight any intruder walking to the bedroom. There are plenty of low lumen lights with battery that is recharged by the sun. This is called a fatal funnel.
After the panic subsides, that is the time to move out of the city. Move at night and shelter in the storm sewers during daylight.
One of the best times to be sneaky is after a period of clear dry weather changes to heavy rain, sleet etc. Even military sentries aren't at their best.
The key is everyone's situation is different and one answer doesn't fit all situations. Plans are for your location and not mine or anyone else's.
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I see an EMP as virtually the only reason that you need to be stuck in a city, virtually every other scenario will allow you to "get out of Dodge" earlier if you have planned ahead. The key is to only have a minimal stock of supplies located in the city while the main bulk of your preparations are located at your eventual destination and caches along the way.
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nobody is going to get out of a big city alive, some of the recent riots should prove this.
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most will be out of water in 3 days and have to leave. This is especially true now that so many have tank-less water heaters. Better immediately remove the handle from the toilet and fill the bathtube and sink with water, if at all possible If you have garbage bags and a neighbor with a swimming pool, get over there the first night and bring back several bags of water during the hours of darkness. If you're serious about prepping gtfo NOW. A bicycle will get you past all of the stalled, shot-up cars. You can push it with 100 lbs of stuff on it, on some really bad terrain. That can be 40 lbs of gear, 10 lbs of inflatable boat and 50 lbs of nut butter and veggie oil, to help you choke down netted fish and tree cambium. That stuff averages 3000 calories per lb, so you'll have 2 months worth of food with you. You can cover 10 miles per night with that set up, enough to get clean out of FL if you live in Key West. Get some cheap night vision, and make a silencer for a Marlin Papoose .22lr autorifle, little takedown 4 lb thing, sub $300.
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simple...….don't live in a big city.
in a catastrophic SHTF nobody is getting out of a big city alive, especially with no electrical power.
highways will end up as one big parking lot.
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Sis! Going there because of the jobs IS in its methodology a decision of survival. I completely understand family too. We're just worried about you guys. :)
May have to make a trip south in my armoured HUMVEE and .50 machinegun if the SHTF. Haha.
-Buggy
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Hubby won't move...born and raised here...all his family is here.... he loves the city....
I needed a job, and his Mom had connections at a local hospital, hence our move into the city.... jobs are hard to come by, especially ones that offer health insurance.... but my dog and I are not happy in the city.... just gotta suck it up.....
I feel like I am living in an alternate universe down here....and like I am always on high alert....
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