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  • #16
    My main worry is for an EMP.... there is no warning before hand for me to get out before the $hit storm starts.... it's just there....BOOM.....

    Other scenarios I can gauge what is coming down and try and get out before the masses understand what is going on....

    It's the BOOM scenarios where I'm stuck in this $hithole town....

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    • #17
      Amy, an economic collapse could happen almost as fast and is much more likely. Most wealth is nothing but ones and zeros out in cyberspace. It could be zeroed out in a nano-second.

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      • #18
        So sorry Amy I agree with what everyone else is saying, Get Out if you can. If not possible then store more preps. Do your best to become invisible, share with no one what you are doing. In my prayers.

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        • #19
          Amy,
          All we can do is prepare for the worst and pray for the best. I realize you are smack dab in the middle of the city. So do what you can. You know better than anyone what your resources, possible hiddy holes, and physical/mental strengths are. So, YES, learn all about urban survival you can just as I am trying to learn about rural survival. We are all in God's hands. Just remember GOD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES.

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          • #20
            I lived in LA during the Riots over Rodney King.

            It was weird go down a busy street and every thing is OK. Go 2 blocks over and you had rioting, fires, bodies laying on the street, and gun fire.

            If you drove the wrong kind of car or had the wrong skin color you were in big trouble!!! A truck driver learn't that lesson. He got out of his truck to help someone and was hit with the brick in the back of his head. It was caught on TV video tape. Do you know what that man who used the brick got? 6 months in county jail for battery!!! It should of been 1 count of attempted murder. The prosecution decided that they had enough RACE Problems so they went for a very light sentence. The truck driver is now 100 % disabled -- he cannot remember day to day things.

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            • #21
              Amy,

              Not to add to your frustration, but, I read today that Florida has surpassed New York in population coming in as the third most populated in the nation. I don't know how connected you and your hubby are to the area. It might be time to look elsewhere for a place to live. By the way, how is the economy down there? I assume it is like southern California?

              -Buggy
              I'm not a fatalist. I'm a realist.

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              • #22
                Hubby won't move...born and raised here...all his family is here.... he loves the city....

                I needed a job, and his Mom had connections at a local hospital, hence our move into the city.... jobs are hard to come by, especially ones that offer health insurance.... but my dog and I are not happy in the city.... just gotta suck it up.....

                I feel like I am living in an alternate universe down here....and like I am always on high alert....

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                • #23
                  Sis! Going there because of the jobs IS in its methodology a decision of survival. I completely understand family too. We're just worried about you guys. :)

                  May have to make a trip south in my armoured HUMVEE and .50 machinegun if the SHTF. Haha.


                  -Buggy
                  I'm not a fatalist. I'm a realist.

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                  • #24
                    simple...….don't live in a big city.
                    in a catastrophic SHTF nobody is getting out of a big city alive, especially with no electrical power.
                    highways will end up as one big parking lot.

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                    • #25
                      most will be out of water in 3 days and have to leave. This is especially true now that so many have tank-less water heaters. Better immediately remove the handle from the toilet and fill the bathtube and sink with water, if at all possible If you have garbage bags and a neighbor with a swimming pool, get over there the first night and bring back several bags of water during the hours of darkness. If you're serious about prepping gtfo NOW. A bicycle will get you past all of the stalled, shot-up cars. You can push it with 100 lbs of stuff on it, on some really bad terrain. That can be 40 lbs of gear, 10 lbs of inflatable boat and 50 lbs of nut butter and veggie oil, to help you choke down netted fish and tree cambium. That stuff averages 3000 calories per lb, so you'll have 2 months worth of food with you. You can cover 10 miles per night with that set up, enough to get clean out of FL if you live in Key West. Get some cheap night vision, and make a silencer for a Marlin Papoose .22lr autorifle, little takedown 4 lb thing, sub $300.

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                      • #26
                        nobody is going to get out of a big city alive, some of the recent riots should prove this.

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                        • #27
                          I see an EMP as virtually the only reason that you need to be stuck in a city, virtually every other scenario will allow you to "get out of Dodge" earlier if you have planned ahead. The key is to only have a minimal stock of supplies located in the city while the main bulk of your preparations are located at your eventual destination and caches along the way.

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                          • #28
                            In many homes, the bedroom is at the end of a windowless hallway. Place a nightlight where it will backlight any intruder walking to the bedroom. There are plenty of low lumen lights with battery that is recharged by the sun. This is called a fatal funnel.

                            After the panic subsides, that is the time to move out of the city. Move at night and shelter in the storm sewers during daylight.
                            One of the best times to be sneaky is after a period of clear dry weather changes to heavy rain, sleet etc. Even military sentries aren't at their best.

                            The key is everyone's situation is different and one answer doesn't fit all situations. Plans are for your location and not mine or anyone else's.



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                            • #29
                              Personally, I believe that a time limit of 6 weeks should be considered. At that point, if you are still in the city, you will probably know if this is a short term or long term event. If its a long term event, time to pack up what you can and move to your prepared secondary location. Past a 6 week period you will see a gradual dissolving of law enforcement operations and the start of medical problems, such as cholera, etc.

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                              • #30
                                No matter if it is USSOCOM, LRRP or sniper skills, either requires training and a heck of a lot of it. It is not a read a book type of training.

                                I'll go with Garand's give it time to settle down and then move out for wherever. Crawl into a storm drain along side the streets and sleep during the day and move at night to the next storm drain or culvert.

                                If and when one gets out of the urban areas; just what the H do you have to survive and what survival skills do you have. Yeah, not much is the answer.


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