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    I need some help finding a NO TRESSPASSING sign someone posted here a few weeks back. The sign I am looking for spelled out the law and the section of the law that protects the land owner.

    I can not find it in any of my searches, does anyone else remember this sign?

    I got into a heated argument with a co worker over the fact that he claimes a building inspector has the right to come on my farm at any time un announced and inspect any thing I have on or off the grid. I disagree and feel they onlt have the right to inspect what I have or want to connect to the public utilitys, (power and water) once I pass inspection I do not want any public official back on my land. ESPECALLY UN ANNOUNCED OR UN ESCORTED VISITS.

    anywho, any help finding this sign and where I can purchase a couple of dozen will be helpfull.

    Thanks

    BB

  • #2
    Originally posted by BARRACUDABILLY View Post
    I need some help finding a NO TRESSPASSING sign someone posted here a few weeks back. The sign I am looking for spelled out the law and the section of the law that protects the land owner.

    I can not find it in any of my searches, does anyone else remember this sign?

    I got into a heated argument with a co worker over the fact that he claimes a building inspector has the right to come on my farm at any time un announced and inspect any thing I have on or off the grid. I disagree and feel they onlt have the right to inspect what I have or want to connect to the public utilitys, (power and water) once I pass inspection I do not want any public official back on my land. ESPECALLY UN ANNOUNCED OR UN ESCORTED VISITS.

    anywho, any help finding this sign and where I can purchase a couple of dozen will be helpfull.

    Thanks

    BB
    I'm a little new here so I do not know what sign you would be referring to exactly. However, I did find this one


    Found at National Association of Rural Landowners


    Hope this helps. :D
    Being unprepared is giving up!

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    • #3
      To fully utilize Google search, if the above is not the one you were looking for - Type in "No Trespassing sign Law provided" in the Google search engine. Over to the extreme top left hand side, after the search shows the results, click on "Images" and scroll through until you find the one you are looking for. :)
      Being unprepared is giving up!

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      • #4
        To keep you from haveing to put signs every 10 feet or so, put a purple dot on a tree or post. Means no tresspassing. Also, I use to use this sign, until the police made me take it down. BELEIVE IN LIFE AFTER DEATH..... TRESS PASS AND FIND OUT.
        G.I.H.S.O. Going In Hot, Safety Off.

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        • #5
          For reasons far too exhaustive to get into here, that sign would not hold up in court. It would be next to impossible to fit enough wording to explain what that sign is implying. Much easier to post a more traditional No Trespassing sign.

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          • #6
            I would check my state, and local laws pertaining to trespassing.I would think that they would vary from state to state,and individual counties. Some counties here in Ky. actually require you to take an ad in the local paper stating that you have posted your property against trespassing and give the specifics. Also, you may want to go ahead and put up something with a bulls eye on it close to the posted sign cause most of the time the sign will become a target, at least they do around here.
            Every Day , Is A Bonus.

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            • #7
              Any sign that has a "let God sort'em out" theme is really a no no.
              If you did shoot a trespasser in self defence, a prosecutor might try to make it look like you were itching to shoot someone.
              CTHULHU/Dagon 2012

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              • #8
                Why not keep it simple - a homemade sign with large letters -

                Caution No Trespassing! PitBull with Aids



                With, of course, regular NO Trespassing signs!
                Last edited by Pioneer; 11-18-2009, 06:52 PM.
                Being unprepared is giving up!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by OneBadPig View Post
                  Any sign that has a "let God sort'em out" theme is really a no no.
                  If you did shoot a trespasser in self defence, a prosecutor might try to make it look like you were itching to shoot someone.
                  That's a REALLY Good Point! Colorado has a "Make my day" law, but the intruder must be in the home. (As I recall) (Probably threatening too!)

                  Either way, It IS best to check with the State's laws one lives in before going through the expense of buying and posting signs. They, generally, must be so many feet apart, have so many strands of wire and fence posts etc. to be legally recognized. (In most states)
                  Being unprepared is giving up!

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                  • #10
                    Personally I have this sign, in my garage of course. I live in a golf resort retirement/single family home PUD so I don't need the neighbors, who also are my members, getting the wrong idea.
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                    Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim.
                    ~ Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you.-Ovid

                    Mus uni non fidit antro.
                    ~ A mouse does not rely on just one hole.-Plautus

                    Non semper erit aestas
                    ~ It will not always be summer.

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                    • #11
                      I guess I should mention I'm a law student. The Fourth Amendment varies in its impact by state, but the general premise is that a no trespassing sign does in fact apply to state workers as well as private citizens. The Census actually trains its workers to respect them and just leave the materials in a bag hanging near the sign rather than pass it. Here in Tennessee, there was a recent case reversed by the criminal court of appeals where police drove onto the property, through an open gate with a visible no trespassing sign in response to air surveillance that established white 5 gallon buckets in the backyard. The police took the position that white 5 gallons buckets are probable cause to investigate possible marijuana growth. The homeowner was not home, but the babysitter called him at work. The police advised him that it was "in his best interest" to consent to a search of his property. He orally consented over the phone and left work to meet the police at his property. When he arrived, he was arrested and charged with manufacturing and possession of marijuana. He was convicted at trial, however that conviction was reversed on appeal. It all came down to the no trespassing sign: the court said the police were put on notice that the homeowner did not consent to any waiver of his Fourth Amendment rights. The court also rejected the claim of the buckets establishing probable cause. The state, of course argued that the homeowner consented to a search over the phone, but the court was not convinced as, again, due to the no trespassing sign, the police were already on notice that he did not consent. The police had unlawfully entered his property, and thus all evidence gained as result of the unlawful entry and unlawful search was inadmissible as a matter of law under the doctrine of the fruit of the poisonous tree.

                      Please remember that this is not legal advice as I am not an attorney, but the point is to research your local state law as state constitutions may offer more projections that the federal constitution.

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                      • #12
                        My suggestion would be for you to write down you ideas of the sign that you want and find someone that makes signs and have it made to you specs.
                        I have a friend that does signage and have had him make me several unique, eye catching signs.

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                        • #13
                          I live on acreage with no tresspassing and private property signs and still the police drive right up my 1/4 mile drive, ( with a drive this long they cannot say that they were just turning around), for this or that reason.
                          I asked one of the officers if he was unable to read the signs at the bottom of the drive and he stated," I am the police" ( like that really means something to me) and got into his vehicle and left.
                          Last edited by tbkbtk123; 08-14-2010, 12:55 PM. Reason: Mispelled word

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                          • #14
                            I'd be curious to know what their reasoning was. No tresspassing signs do in fact apply to the police, obviously in certain situations they will drive passed (lawfully or unlawfully)... however they would be required to state the reason.

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                            • #15
                              There was never a given reason for his presence on my property, other than,"I am the police." I told him I did not appricate him trespassing on my property and would appricate that it did not happen again.
                              I hope that he doesn't think that I am stupid enough to jump just because he is "The police" *L*

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