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  • nakadnu
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    I don't believe in aliens.

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  • bambam55
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    Originally posted by RossA View Post
    I'm gonna buy me a couple of them generator bikes, then capture a few illegal aliens, chain 'em to the bikes and make 'em pedal like crazy. Cheap to run and fun to watch.
    NOTE: I just know that someone, somewhere will take offense to this post.
    not me, sounds good Bambam55

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  • bambam55
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    not me sounds good Bambam55

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  • bambam55
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    I saw a generator the other day it's called a magna generator some how it uses magnets I'm imagining that the magnets are on an angle with same poles which keeps pushing the armature moving they showed it running I think it was in austrailia. And the other quandry was getting AC power out of an alternator that came up in something I was looking at when I found the magna generator you have to take the stator apart w/a hammer and punch take out the wiring and replace it with 1 or more magnets I'm going to split a stator some time next week and let u all know what size magnets to use. I was messing with one before,I took all the field wires and soldered them in series, w/the magnets in the stator spinning it should keep a constant AC.I'll let you know what happens Bambam55

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  • zerochance
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    Here's an update on that Magniworks generator for you. Like I said, its a scam. They tell you how to build a generator powerhead that produces a whopping 24 watts. About 1/3 of what it would take to run a standard light bulb. Oh, and its just a powerhead, no power source. You gotta come up with the input power to spin it. It does not spin itself through magnetic propulsion as they would lead you to believe. Such a generator would be a perpetual motion machine and no one has yet achieved that mythical goal. First rule of electrical generation is this, you are trading a more energetic power source (Be it fossil fuel, water power, wind, etc ) for electricity and you are getting the bad end of the deal. The input amount of power is far greater than the output amount of electricity. The challenge is to choose a source of input power that you have in abundance and can therefore afford to trade for electricity at such a substantial loss. It is this very fact that is leading the world toward an energy crisis. For too long now we have thrown away readily available fuel sources in order to produce the magic electricity, now it is coming back to bite our butts.


    Here are more details about magniworks scam. You will have to convert the following to a URL blog.mapawatt.com/2009/07/21/magniwork_perpetual_motion_scam/

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  • forever_frost
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    There is a company out there that offers solar generators that I've been looking at. Mysolarbackup.com is the site. Right now they're having a deal, buy the generator, get extra batteries and heritage seeds. I've been thinking about it.

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  • avking
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    Cheaper Than Dirt has a hand or foot (can not remember) crank generator. Has been in the catalog for at least a year. Surpluss from Chinese military I think. Not sure what it will run, but I am sure it could be setup to charge a 12v battery bank. Like he wrote in "Patriots," you can require anyone on duty to crank it for x hours a day. I do not think it is a great source of energy, but to suplement a solar or other system, might be worth owning. Price was really cheap.

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  • zerochance
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    Originally posted by pathfinder3081 View Post
    The package does not have alot of step by step plans. One thing is that you need someone with a mill. There are machine tolerances that must be made. I am confident that the thing will work. But to what degree I have yet to determine. I was shooting the breeze with a cousin about it this past Thanksgiving Day, he said that he would like to see it. He is is a machinest.
    I'll keep you posted. I will say that as soon as I requested a refund; stating "The plans were not for the Hobbyist of any level and in Blah-blah-blah, I would like a full refund"... I got the refund the next day.
    Well, I guess that life has made me a skeptic. Keep us posted and if you can't find a machinist willing to work with you let me know. I'm sure we could work something out.

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  • pathfinder3081
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    I checked out the plans..

    The package does not have alot of step by step plans. One thing is that you need someone with a mill. There are machine tolerances that must be made. I am confident that the thing will work. But to what degree I have yet to determine. I was shooting the breeze with a cousin about it this past Thanksgiving Day, he said that he would like to see it. He is is a machinest.
    I'll keep you posted. I will say that as soon as I requested a refund; stating "The plans were not for the Hobbyist of any level and in Blah-blah-blah, I would like a full refund"... I got the refund the next day.

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  • Big_Saw
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    Thanks for your input, ZC, and welcome to XC...head on over to the intro forums and let us know a bit about yourself....

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  • zerochance
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    Originally posted by mountainman28713 View Post
    try this on for size!!! magniworks.com I knew there had to be something out there, but had not found it until recently.
    Wouldn't touch this with a ten foot pole. First thing I learned about these type of outfits was that if their product REALLY worked they would be manufacturing and selling it. But if the product only sounds good on paper then that is what they will sell you, the paper. There are plenty of manufacturers out there that would be willing to build a product of this nature if it worked. There are probably a dozen manufacturers in my area alone that would bend over backwards to build a product of this nature if it worked with little or no investment required by the designers. That tells me that they could't demonstrate a working prototype.

    I"ve been conned by these kind of deals before, don't blow your money on something that doesn't work. It's too easy for them to sell you plans, and then when your example doesn't work (should you ever actually complete it) they can just simply say you didn't build it right. Besides, they fulfilled their obligations by sending the plans. They are under no legal obligation to insure that the device works.

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  • Big_Saw
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    Originally posted by MooseCreek View Post
    Had it been on my house it would have been "stolen" by some vagrant during the night I am sure :D. I have often thought about (havent figured out yet) about having a barrel of water or anything else heavy attached to a cable high in a tree that falls slowly as it turns a generator, maybe through an old truck transmission and rear end and every day or two, three etc you would have to use an electric winch or come a long to get it back up high. If seclusion of such an item was needed it could be hung over a small tripod and lowered into a hole in the ground. Has anyone ever seen the plans where someone else has built one of these?
    Sounds similar to a grandfather clock mechanism.....sound theory if you could get the gearing and flywheels right.....

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  • MooseCreek
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    Originally posted by pathfinder3081 View Post
    Two years ago I had a main ground wire go out on my house. I called Duke power, they came.. Yata yata, one of the main field managers lives in my neighborhood and walked over as the truck pulled up. He knew him by name and started talking. "You gonna get him some power tonight ain't ya?"..
    Then the field man pulled out a big box attached to a hand truck.. It was about 24"wide x 8" X 30".. He pulled out the meter, plugged in another meter attached to the box and flipped the switch. I told him that I would not run alot of power until they fixed the main ground. He smiled and said "don't worry about that, it can run everything in the house"... How long? I replied. "for months, but we will be back in a day or two".
    Of course I started talking and asking questions, my neighbor said that unit like that cost about $20,000.00. HE kinda stopped talking about details but did reply when we have ice storms they are taken by the big brass in his office.
    My mouth dropped and I went into the house. Noticing that they did not chain it to the deck or anything. (smile) They arrived the next morning before I left for work.. Bummer. I wonder if this was a Magnet Generator. My thoughts were of a chemical degeneration that produces power via heat. It had "HOT" stickers all over it. DO we have any "Power company line men" among us?
    Had it been on my house it would have been "stolen" by some vagrant during the night I am sure :D. I have often thought about (havent figured out yet) about having a barrel of water or anything else heavy attached to a cable high in a tree that falls slowly as it turns a generator, maybe through an old truck transmission and rear end and every day or two, three etc you would have to use an electric winch or come a long to get it back up high. If seclusion of such an item was needed it could be hung over a small tripod and lowered into a hole in the ground. Has anyone ever seen the plans where someone else has built one of these?

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  • pathfinder3081
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    Got me thinkin'

    Originally posted by mountainman28713 View Post
    try this on for size!!! magniworks.com I knew there had to be something out there, but had not found it until recently.
    Two years ago I had a main ground wire go out on my house. I called Duke power, they came.. Yata yata, one of the main field managers lives in my neighborhood and walked over as the truck pulled up. He knew him by name and started talking. "You gonna get him some power tonight ain't ya?"..
    Then the field man pulled out a big box attached to a hand truck.. It was about 24"wide x 8" X 30".. He pulled out the meter, plugged in another meter attached to the box and flipped the switch. I told him that I would not run alot of power until they fixed the main ground. He smiled and said "don't worry about that, it can run everything in the house"... How long? I replied. "for months, but we will be back in a day or two".
    Of course I started talking and asking questions, my neighbor said that unit like that cost about $20,000.00. HE kinda stopped talking about details but did reply when we have ice storms they are taken by the big brass in his office.
    My mouth dropped and I went into the house. Noticing that they did not chain it to the deck or anything. (smile) They arrived the next morning before I left for work.. Bummer. I wonder if this was a Magnet Generator. My thoughts were of a chemical degeneration that produces power via heat. It had "HOT" stickers all over it. DO we have any "Power company line men" among us?
    Last edited by pathfinder3081; 09-25-2009, 01:47 PM.

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  • avking
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    Originally posted by Diesel View Post
    what if it was cloudy rainy, every day and you were in the woods... solar wont help
    Not true. While it is not as efficient, solar panels will still charge a battery pack on a cloudy or rainy day.

    Our place in Idaho is not off the electric grid, but it could be. We have enough solar to power the entire property. Our electric bill is almost always under $5 and that is all taxes.

    As for portable, Bruntom makes a panel system, the 26 and a battery pack, the 15. It will store the power you need for most uses and charge the battery is all conditions.

    I have a Engel 12V fridge/freezer, the Engel 45 I think. It can hold about two cases of cans, to give you a idea of the size. The Brunton panel and battery pack can power the unit all day. The panel outputs enough energy to power the cooler and charge the battery pack. At night, the battery pack holds enough juice to power the cooler until the sun comes out. The panels are nice, because you can daisy chain up to three of them for more energy and you can go with the model 52 and daisy chain then for even more. I have three of the model 26 panels, but usually carry just one. One model 26 panel and model 15 battery are permanent residents in my BOB and the other two panels are in my base camp gear.

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