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    From TOP to BOTTOM:

    RTAK by WKC Newt Livesay
    Woodsman's Pal
    Buck BUCKMASTER
    Buck Intrepid commercial copy of the Kit Carson design
    Cold Steel Recon Tanto
    Gerber LMF II



    RTAK (Randall Training and Adventure Knife) made FIRST by Newt Livesay of the Wicked Knife Company. I read an article in ASG (American Survival Guide) and was really impressed with it. I took me about a month to get it shipped and I suspect that is why eventually RTAK production went to Ontario Knife to meet demand. I have both but IMHO the Origional slighly edges (pun intended) out the Ontario version. Currently the ONLY semi custom blade I own. This blade is a awesome chopper. It easily and quickly can help you blaze a trail, clear brush, construct a shelter, split wood and defend yourself if need be:eek:



    Next up is the Woodsman's Pal. This was designed in WWII and I even think there is an technique for using it as weapon. I found a local source that carried these for $35 (at the time) so thought I'd try one. I was impressed. It equally chopped wood well and functioned as machete. The brush hook will easily handle small brush, saw briars, and blackberry bushes with ease. I prefer to use this over a axe or hatchet, for to me, it seems much safer.

    I use this also to split wood by driving it through the wood by striking the tip with a handy sized chunk of wood. I actually use this on a test for the RTAK's, Recon Tanto and WP to make sure my knives are up to my needs!

    The example shown above is my PRISTINE one as it has never been used but resides in my work bag (I have bush axes, axes and pruning saws on my truck and use them because I have to chop poison vines with them, mine is for survival use).

    The one on my 4 wheeler has seen a hard life, but other than the wood handles graying, and some shiny spots on the blade, it is good to go!

    Bottom line, if I had to have only one blade to survive in the wild, give me a Woodman's pal!



    Next up is the Buck BUCKMASTER. Back in the mid to late 80's when the hollow handled survival knife craze was going on, this was the pinnacle of mass produced knives. I later came to find out, that this design was vastly inferior to full tang designs. HOWEVER next to a Chris Reeve hollow handled knife this blade is the only hollowed handle design I would carry.

    At the time I liked the idea of having an all in one survival kit in the handle of your knife. I mean it was a cool concept, but blade and handle seperation is a bad thing! Better to have a superior blade and a survival kit in YOUR POCKET!

    The BUCKMASTER is a big piece of steel. The handle has agressive checkering and well IMHO is one of the prettiest knives of the 80's.

    Unfortunately I lost one of the spikes while on a camping trip. I suppose the idea is to use this knife as a grappling hook or such in the sheath... I don't like that idea but it is there if I need such. The screw off handle has a place to attach a rope or carabiner as well.

    Great knife, but it was a "I wanted one when I was younger" thing. It resides in one of my vehicle kits these days as a backup...




    This is the Buck Intrepid. This blade was designed by Kit Carson. The knife is very well made and has a full tang. The handles are removable for cleaning zombie blood or when immersed in salt water.

    I prefer a straight edge knife to serrated one because it is easier to sharpen. I do however think the combo blades with partial straight and serrated edges are great. I think serrated blades really shine in cutting nylon, rope and similar materials. So got the best of both worlds there!

    I also like the chisel edge on top of the blade as this knife has lots of cutting area, which is a nice option as well

    This blade has a Tanto point which is also a plus in my book as it makes the tip very strong as well as great piercing characteristics. They also made this blade with a chisel tip, but it was not for me

    This knife resides in my work bag in case I run into a survival situation @ work and need a great blade to get me out of a survival situation.



    Above is the Cold Steel RECON Tanto. This blade wins in the economy department. As you can see from the pics, I have used this knife, lovingly but HARD! I love this blade and can not say enough good things about it!

    Funny thing is a group of three of us went on a camping trip. When we pulled out our knives, EVERYONE had a RCON Tanto. This said a lot being that we were from varied backgrounds and had come to the same answer in a fixed blade knife!

    One of the fellars showed me a technique to split wood with the RECON Tanto, that when I first saw it, I honestly thought he was gonna break it. I mentioned it above about striking the tip to drive the Tanto through the wood with a baseball bat sized piece of wood!

    I use the RECON Tanto to split pieces of wood for kindling just like I described above and it works great! The Woodman's Pal beats the RT in this method mainly because the WP is a bigger piece of metal!

    Overall one of the most affordable, durable and SHARP (holds and edge and is easy to sharpen) knives I have ever owned/used.

    I don't know if the RECON Tanto's are still made in the USA, but if I had a choice, I'd go American, this one is.



    Finally we get to the last blade and the one that has the honor of residing in my BOB/GHB, the Gerber LMF II. I hated Gerber Knives in the late 80's and early 90's. The reason is that the blades broke to easily. I am hard on a knife, so either it breaks and I hate it, or it doesn't and I love it.

    So even though Gerbers were not cheap, I considered them POS blades (except the origional LMF) and after a bad experience I wrote them off.

    A friend of mine is a Gerber freak and I noticed ,that to me, the blades seemed better made. So when the LMF II came out I was impressed. Impressed enough to lift my ban on Gerber blades.

    I like the combo edge (as I talked about above) and I find that the shorter overall length makes this a practical knife that does small and large chores easy. IMHO this is a perfect length for a tool knife. It does everything well except for the chopping power of the larger blades.

    The blade and hammer pommel are electrically isolated so if you need to you could chop a live wire (one sniper in Iraq used this knife to do such a thing). Not plan A, but a plan none the less!

    The steel is easy to sharpen and it is extremely well ballanced.

    Overall it has passed all my tests and it reminds me of an updated version of the 'USAF pilot survival knife' expecially in its size and handiness.

    So there you have it, my fixed blade arsenal. Thanks for reading!
    73

    later,
    ZA

    Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to
    beat you to death with it because it is empty.

    The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.


  • #2
    What ever happened to American Survival Guide? I used to have a subscription and then they just quit coming. Any other magazines out there these days? I remember when American Survivalist went belly up. I assume ASG did also.

    I love the Tanto!!! Sweet!!

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    • #3
      WOW hell of a collection.

      Funny on your last blade, i have been wanting to pick up a LMF for awhile, this may have sealed the deal

      great write up, thanks!
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      • #4
        Thanks Diesel :)

        Rusty ASG was bought out by some PC types and they renamed it Self Reliant Living. SRL died after a year or so and Jim Benson the former editor of both started http://www.modernsurvival.net/ Pretty much the same format as the old ASG. Costs $19.95 for a year for an electronic version but they used to send you a PDF CD that had the whole years articles on it. Don't know if they still do that or not:confused:

        You can even write a few articles for Mr. Benson and get paid for them. I wrote 2, all on commo, to basically pay for the subscription and get a little cash. Jim Benson is a good guy and will PAY you, but it TAKES A LONG TIME so it ain't gonna pay your bills this month. So I guess you could say I am a published author :)

        These days I prefer to publish my writings for free on my blog and primarily here as I am not in this to make money, but hopefully help folks, which has its own form of payment... making friends :D
        73

        later,
        ZA

        Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to
        beat you to death with it because it is empty.

        The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

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        • #5
          Excellent post Zombie. A nice selection of knives but I wanted to comment on the Woodsman's Pal. I was planning on writing a post about this knife myself. It was issued during WWII but was also, and may still be, issued to special forces later. The WWII Pals are considered rare, so if you find one hang on to it like I didn't. I do have a newer one now and bought it because of my experience with the first one I owned. This knife/axe was isued in the leather disk handle with hand guard originally and is what I own now. It will take anything you throw at it. The end of the knife was originally issued with a sharpened spade edge for entrenching. I have modified mine so that the edge goes all the way around and stops at the hook. This tool should be a part of every BOB. I will post some pics of my modified one in the near future.
          The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

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          • #6
            I started reading the first post. Thanks for a great discussion.
            After reading Zombie' post I had a question regarding the Woodsman's Pal.

            I read down to Bebopcop's post. He responded to the question I had. I have seen a couple of those Pals with the hand guard, and wondered if anyone out there actually used one.

            A Woodsman's Pal is now on the list.

            thanks guys
            greenhouse

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            • #7
              I just wanna know one thing......


              Where in the hell do I get one of THESE?
              "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

              "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
                I just wanna know one thing......


                Where in the hell do I get one of THESE?
                The same place where you can get one of these. Crazy Al's Weapon Emporium!!
                Last edited by Rustyshakelford; 12-23-2008, 02:29 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rustyshakelford View Post
                  The same place where you can get one of these. Crazy Al's Weapon Emporium!!
                  LMFAO...ROF............I want one soooooo bad......... :D :D :D :D
                  "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                  "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                  • #10
                    I have got to pick this thing apart....lol
                    "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                    "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
                      LMFAO...ROF............I want one soooooo bad......... :D :D :D :D

                      I personally like the hood ornament off the Packard(possibly an old Rolls). Gives this rifle a certain je'nais ce qua.

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                      • #12
                        I don't know if I caught everything, but here's my assessment....lol

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                        "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                        "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
                          I don't know if I caught everything, but here's my assessment....lol


                          You forgot the 200x optics and the compass.

                          (your first photo did not upload.)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rustyshakelford View Post
                            You forgot the 200x optics and the compass.

                            (your first photo did not upload.)
                            I got the cracker-jack compass, but the friggin telescope top-mounted needed no explanation....
                            "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                            "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by greenhouse View Post
                              I started reading the first post. Thanks for a great discussion.
                              After reading Zombie' post I had a question regarding the Woodsman's Pal.

                              I read down to Bebopcop's post. He responded to the question I had. I have seen a couple of those Pals with the hand guard, and wondered if anyone out there actually used one.

                              A Woodsman's Pal is now on the list.

                              thanks guys
                              greenhouse
                              Glad we could help :)
                              I have not tried the one with the handguard but would think one of those would be nice!
                              73

                              later,
                              ZA

                              Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to
                              beat you to death with it because it is empty.

                              The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

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