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    I heard a gun control ploy today that I have not heard before and I would like to know if anyone else has heard it. We have all heard of the coming taxes on ammo and guns and this is still part of it. I was told that there would be a government form in the near (my opinion) future that every man and woman of age would have to sign saying whether or not they have guns. Once this form is signed it gives you a card allowing you to buy food and gas. The form will imply that the government will not take your guns but wants to know who has what. This form will also cause you to waive your fourth amendment rights for the purpose of searching for guns in your home. Once you have signed the form at some point down the line if you are found with a gun that you did not declare then you could be charged with a crime. If you think about it, this makes a lot more sense than someone coming to your house trying to take your guns. I was told this by a gun store worker who said that he read it in a past issue of Rifleman magazine. What do you think?
    The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

  • #2
    The old "It's not a crime now, but it will become a crime." scam has been around for decades but the bit about buying food and gas sounds like a morphing of the "Number of the beast' gambit. I do not think it will be outright gun confiscation, I think it will be "If we catch you with..." like you said. The bit about food, I think even the ACLU would be up in arms about that (the homeless and other underclasses).
    The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.

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    • #3
      Well, IMHO, this would be a DEFCON 1 situation. Declare your arms, or be denied food and energy? Do you really have to ask?
      "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

      "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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      • #4
        Sounds far fetched, but who knows we may be showing our papers soon too if you want to cross state borders.

        It's a VERY scary control ploy you heard about there... enforceable who knows, would we stand down and accept it, prob not, it's probably where I would draw the line, what about you?
        WHAT IF THE AMERICA YOU KNEW, WAS ABOUT TO CHANGE?

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        • #5
          No question about it, that would cross the line and there would be a rebellion I hope. Call me crazy but it sounds do-able and it sound just far fetched enough for our government to try it. I'm still wondering if anyone else has heard this. I'm not saying I believe this, but it's interesting.
          The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

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          • #6
            I'm ravenously searching the web and any archives I can find, trying to see if there's any facts out there to support this....I'll report if I can find anything...I've got a couple of my....um...."friends" checking the "deep waters", too.
            "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

            "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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            • #7
              Man i just dont know how doable that is, how on earth would they control the sale of food and fuel with a card? I mean how do you enforce that???
              WHAT IF THE AMERICA YOU KNEW, WAS ABOUT TO CHANGE?

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              • #8
                Well, here are some links to good info pertinent to the subject at hand, however, I have not heard back from my "fishing buddies" as to the specifics of a "national federal registry."

                as far as I can tell, though, there is no public record of such registry being in existence. None - that I can find through the usual channels - are in the works as far as current legislation goes, but we are in a lame-duck session of the fed-leg right now. Who knows what the libs will do when they really get the keys to the kingdom.

                While it does seem unlikely....well, rather......improbable at this time, I would have said the same about a government-run banking industry or auto industry about 16 months ago.

                Always expect the unexpected.....especially when the inmates take over the asylum.
                "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Diesel View Post
                  Man i just dont know how doable that is, how on earth would they control the sale of food and fuel with a card? I mean how do you enforce that???
                  Well, we have to have a driver's license to drive. They already have everyone's SSN. It seems that I remember reading that in WWII there were vouchers for gas, coffee, tobacco, etc. We do not have a draft but young men are still required to register. How hard is it to make something mandatory when you write it into law?:confused:
                  The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

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                  • #10
                    Sorry....I had a brainfart and forget to insert the links.....

                    Here they are:

                    http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/...1/200747.shtml

                    http://www.alphecca.com/?p=232

                    http://www.saf.org/pub/rkba/gt-report/Report85.htm

                    http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_registration.html
                    "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                    "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bug_out
                      Very hard........... while the populous is armed. Otherwise, just a pen stroke.

                      Oh and,

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                      I've always wondered what that meant.
                      The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by beebopcop View Post
                        I've always wondered what that meant.
                        It means, if I'm not mistaken, "Come and take them." A greek phrase commonly thought to be uttered by the Greek Spartan leader in response to the Persian King's demand that the Greeks surrender their arms.
                        "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                        "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                        • #13
                          Oh...OK ...thanks
                          The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
                            It means, if I'm not mistaken, "Come and take them." A greek phrase commonly thought to be uttered by the Greek Spartan leader in response to the Persian King's demand that the Greeks surrender their arms.
                            It can also be loosely translated to the more American theme of "Over my dead body".
                            "Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." "The things you own end up owning you"-Tyler Durden

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                            • #15
                              Came across this old post and thought it would be a good time for it to resurface. What do you guys and gals thank? I have not heard of this but who knows.

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