Ammo short in supply and expensive!

[herbalpagan]

From time to time, my daughter picks up ammo for someone. She recently got back from a "buy" and told me that the sellers are having a hard time getting ammo stock and it's going up in price, and quickly.
She used to be able to go to one gun shop, this time it took her 4 shops to get the same amount.:eek:

[Skyowl's Wife]

From time to time, my daughter picks up ammo for someone. She recently got back from a "buy" and told me that the sellers are having a hard time getting ammo stock and it's going up in price, and quickly.
She used to be able to go to one gun shop, this time it took her 4 shops to get the same amount.:eek:

We have 4 gun stores in our smallish town. None have had significant ammo for months. We had to go to gun shows up north to get ours.

[Omegaman]

The big outff
iter store by us is limiting you to 5 boxes of one caliber or 10 boxes of different calibers. In the 70 years they have been open they have never done that. There is also a limit on rifle and pistol primers of 200 primers per person if they even have any. No limit on 209 or 209 shotgun primers. They have been out of every kind of black powder you can think of. On an up note they had 223 and every pistol caliber but 45 apc, 380 and they were very low on 9MM but they had piles of 40S&W, 357, 357 SIG, 38 special and 308 but I have been in there when they have had no pistol ammo or 223 ,308, 5.56 or 7.62. The walmart by us is limiting you to 3 boxes of any caliber and their shelves are bare except for 12 gauge skeet loads and some slugs.

[slowz1k]

Walmart hit me with a 6 box limit this past week. They're still having some ammo trickle in, so I check back often. .223, .45ACP, .380, and 9mm seem to be the needles in the haystack. I found a local gun shop selling 50 rounds of .30 carbine for $28.00!!!!! That's a hard round to find right now.... And a good price to boot! I bought all he had on the shelf.

[OneBadPig]

There is no shortage of shotgun ammo...makes me think people are getting ready for a fight.
Anyway, with all the pocket size .380 pistols going onto the market from several manufacturers, 380 ammo seems really hard to find. Thats why i sold my .380 last November....i was tired of paying more for that round than for 9mm.

[rancher]

The time to stock pile ammo cheap and easy ended over two years ago. Such is life. Everyone is our group has more than enough...but we did all that long ago. I know it is hard now but folks you really need to be reading the "tea leafs" better. There was ample warning long ago fir those with...ears to hear.

The ammo shortage is old news. You best be looking ahead for what is next and stock up now.

[OneBadPig]

Seems like everyday someone seems to be just discovering the ammo situation. 5.56 and 308 has been getting tight for a couple of years and increases in metal costs have been steadily adding to the price of all ammo.
This is a foreshadowing of shortages to come. I hope that our friends dont put themselves in the same situation regarding food.
I would hate to log in some day and see a thread about how difficult it is to find [ insert food staple item here] hard to find and expensive......and then wish i had bought another case of tuna when it was plentiful.

[rancher]

Bad piggy is right ;-)

How can you tell if...you are a real "Prepping survivalist"? Answer; When you learn to see ahead and are stocking up on key items before they go way up in price...if you can get them at all. When you have created alliances with others who are also well prepped before hand.

Sadly most so called/self labeled prepers and or survivalists are reactionary... they re act to situations and then begin to look for the answers or supplies after the problem took place. I am firmly convinced that will lead to most of them becoming what we call “victims” after a real crisis hits and they had...as most do failed to locate and develop at least one secured location with all the infrastructures needs to comfortably survive at. They are alone and with no where really well thought out to go to...

Read postings here and on other sites...The most common excuse for not having found others who are on the same track and also finding that location to safely fall back to when (the grid is gone/no food resupply/no meds either/no public utilities and more)... was “it was to hard to do” or “no one ever found me because I was afraid to post or reach out” or “there is no one like me around here” or whatever....

Hardly matter then anyway now doesn’t it. If the shoe fits...wear it...my Mother use to always say :-(

[Skyowl's Wife]

So true, Rancher.

Suggesting right now you buy your sugar, coffee and wheat.

Cold weather in SA have caused massive coffee and sugar crop failures. About 80% of the wheat in Kansas and the Texas panhandle were lost this year, again because of weather.

Think, in fact, about anything that comes from overseas. Transportation costs are going up, up, up, as are the prices of the goods as the value of the dollar falls. That, of course, includes fuel.

[rancher]

Right on..

Wheat..several 55 gallon barrels plus 1k in mylar bags. Sugar is good. I am getting ready to locate a honeybee hive and bring it to the ranch. I want more bees to work on all our fruit trees etc. Plus we could tap into the honey down the road.

Coffee is another matter. We like dark rich french roast from Starbucks. It is that fresh 1/2 & 1/2 we will miss ;-( We freeze beans but I am looking for info on long term storage of a less expensive line...but still with a butt kicking flavor? Any ideas??? I could buy a 55 gallon barrel or so. That much in a freezer would require me to fire up one of our dormant back up freezers.

Regardless.... if one has not found and fully developed a long term secure sight which will easily support life... all the fresh coffee and bread is for not.

[herbalpagan]

There is a gal in Indiana that is on American {Preppers that grows her own coffee and tobacco. Now, tobacco, anyone in zone 4 can gorw, but coffee? I'll have to ask her about that.

I'[m neither shocked nor surprised that ammo is so expensive and so scarce. Hundreds of thousands of new guns and the ammo to go with them has been purchased in the last 6 months. I had an unusual situation that made us late comers to the ammo game. We have always lived in areas where guns were not welcome, at least in the last few years. We've also had other things to spend the money on, like 5 kids, an ex wife, and the elctric bill :p, now we have the money but we're in Massachusetts....I need not say anything more about how "gun friendly" that state is. Luckily, my daughter lives in Vermont and has purchased with our help a few guns and we are sending her money for ammo. BUT it took time.

We have lots of food stocked up, started a garden and fruit orchard, but it's the few other things that are a hold up for complete preps. But then, are any of ever able to say we have enough?

[denvernative321]

since ammo is old news what is new news? what should we focus on getting extras of now while we still can? i heard coffee, sugar, wheat and ??????




i think it is funny THOUSANDS of people must have a firearm. so they go out and buy a handgun and end up going to every gun shot in the state looking for a box of ammo to go with there new toy.

[Skyowl's Wife]

since ammo is old news what is new news? what should we focus on getting extras of now while we still can? i heard coffee, sugar, wheat and ??????

Anything that comes from overseas (including Hawaii). Pineapple? Bananas? Olive Oil? Etc.

[herbalpagan]

Well, aside from ammo, as mentioned, certain staples are going up and may go up.
Coffee, wheat and wheat products, corn and corn products, sugar and sugar products. Just because sugar is up (or corn or wheat) that will pass on to the products that contain those things.
I haven't heard of anything else immediately, but since most everything you buy these days contains sugar or corn in some form, that would mean a general increase in foods. No big surprise there.
Of course, we can also expect gas to be increasing in price, it already has started going up. All these increases have an affect on another item, so it just ripples out and we have inflation. It's supposed to be higher than usual due to the economy.

[rancher]

Anything else certain government leaders wish to prevent you from owning or getting access to. Like night vision googles, body armor, certain optics, possible medical supplies (quick clot), reloading supplies. Anything to force you from your location and into their waiting arms at you soimewhat local fema camp. They want you to depend on them for your every need...