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  • Butane lighters

    I'm not sure if anyone has thought about this but at about 30 degrees F butane does not change state from a liquid to a vapor (liquid does not burn vapor does) so It may be a good idea to carry your lighter on your person and not in your pack. You can heat it up by putting it in your hands and blowing on it for a while but if I wont it to work I wont it to work now.

    Try an experiment by putting a lighter in your freezer for a couple of hours and try to light it before it reaches 30f.

    Fire steels works every time.
    In my lumpy chair

  • #2
    I agree....I'd rather have one good fire steel/magnesium block than a case of Bics....even if you had 100 Bics in vac bags and temp controlled, you'd still light more fires successfully with a good fire steel before it ever ran out......
    "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

    "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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    • #3
      I agree, but I'm about diversity and redundancy.. i have many different fire starters and multiples of most of them.

      We could do a whole section just on fire starting
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      • #4
        +1....I know there are some pretty cool methods that, while awesome, really aren't for the "survivalist"...like the plungers....yeah, they work, but get 'em moist or dirty and they're useless....kinda like lighters and matches.....plus, you've always got the good old .22 powder plus a spark option, or a magnifying glass.....or two sticks, or a frickin' laser beam attached to a shark's head....or the friction from a fat girl's thighs.....the possibilities are endless.....
        "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

        "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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        • #5
          never tried the fat girl friction technique.. i swear
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          • #6
            Is there any particular type/brand of steel fire starter that you would recommend? All I have is matches in waterproof cases and several types of lighters.
            "Live for something rather than die for nothing" George Patton

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            • #7
              Originally posted by IronHorse View Post
              Is there any particular type/brand of steel fire starter that you would recommend? All I have is matches in waterproof cases and several types of lighters.
              I use the cheapo $5 ones from Wally World....they've been working for me for over ten years now.....
              "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

              "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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              • #8
                Here's some the basics, the fire went out:D
                [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFaq-J-j5DQ[/ame]
                and I have cotton balls with vaseline to start fires when the tinder is damp.
                [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFOpN95qB2w[/ame]
                Don't burn your house down experimenting, take it outside
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                • #9
                  Good addition, O'.....thanks for the vid...it really illustrates the simplicity of the mag stick, and why everyone should have several of them, everywhere in their preps and stowage....it simply is unsurpassed in durability, effectiveness, and longevity.....
                  "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                  "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                  • #10
                    "... never tried the fat girl friction technique.. i swear"

                    ROFLMAO :)

                    Got to try that some day. Now I just need a fat girl....
                    As Zombie Axe would say...
                    "Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Skyowl View Post
                      "... never tried the fat girl friction technique.. i swear"

                      ROFLMAO :)

                      Got to try that some day. Now I just need a fat girl....
                      Gotta convince her to run with some tinder in her socks, too....you know...to catch the embers......try dangling a chicken leg or something.....
                      "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                      "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
                        Gotta convince her to run with some tinder in her socks, too....you know...to catch the embers......try dangling a chicken leg or something.....
                        And you know this how?:confused:
                        As Zombie Axe would say...
                        "Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty."

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                        • #13
                          bad thing about the fat girl is.you have to get her running real fast.then you got to catch her trip her up.shove a wad of tender between her legs!then blow on it!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Skyowl View Post
                            And you know this how?:confused:
                            Aw, c'mon...everybody's dated a fat girl.....or two or three.....I'm not all that concerned with size....SWMBO used to be one...lol.....every shape and size has its uses... :D
                            "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                            "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                            • #15
                              personally i just add a few cotton balls with vasoline to her granny panties and usually have fire for quite awhile
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