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    What do you expect to happen to the masses of sheep when TSHTF? How do any of you hope the splatter will happen... and when? Do you expect it to be a slow build up like Mt. Redoubt, or and explosive eruption on a gigantic scale? Will you actually have time to get out without causing more carnage than needed in defense of all that is sacred and holy to you? Or does that matter? I don't live in an urban area so my headstart has already occurred. As for the first responders in this forum, what will your honor, integrity and intestinal fortitude cause you to do for the sheep?

    I just wonder how everyone on here is hoping, wanting, willing for it to go down. Will the Sh!t hit the fan in a rather messy manner? And do you have a carbeurated vehicle that can be repaired by you without the assistance of a service shop?

  • #2
    Originally posted by bullpupm2 View Post
    I just wonder how everyone on here is hoping, wanting, willing for it to go down.
    Actually, I am hoping and wanting that it never 'goes down.'
    "Be Excellent to Each Other"

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    • #3
      I prepare for the worst but I too, hope for the best. I hope that my preps are never for anything worse than the ice storm I went through last winter. I don't believe it will be that simple...
      My bet is that the economy will get worse, that we might have a time of civil unrest, and that we might even have a revolution with susession (spell?) by some areas of the country. Then there is the increasing issue with the environment, the grid being so decrepit, and our wonderful President taking more and more of our rights away.
      It doesn't matter, I'll do the best I can to be prepared. If nothing happens, then I won't have to go shopping for a long time. With the economy going the way it is, we'll need the preps when we retire since our 401K has been cut to 40% of what it was a year ago.

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      • #4
        Think "LA riots"....and load your weapons, or think "Borg invasion"...and prepare to be assimilated....
        "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

        "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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        • #5
          Lets hope it doesn't.. I live too far from either border..

          Interesting way of phrasing the question. Like others I truly hope it never hits the fan in a spectacular manner but I would rather be prepared just in case. There are really too many possible ways for it to happen for us to be able to discuss every one. I most likely believe it will be a combination of several large events together. For example a large natural disaster combined with a large civil unrest or a Chemical or biological attack/outbreak. With all the nasty bugs like Ebola that are already there in nature is it such a stretch to think that one could decimate world populations like the Black Plague or Spanish influenza did? “Key people”, (and I smirk at that description), could die and the government could suffer a collapse of command and control. I believe the possibility of Nuclear attack is currently much lower than in years past but hey, we all know history repeats itself! A nationwide drought similar to the 1930's could cripple our agriculture industry affecting food supplies worldwide and setting off large scale food riots. (especially in urban areas where growing your own food isn't aways an option). Not that I have spent any time thinking about this or anything..... As for your question about first responders. I would do my job as long as the agency was solvent. Being that I am responsible for 30,000 18-24 year old clueless little lemmings it would probably take a day or two to evacuate campus. At that point I would join the rest of my family (with all my tactical gear still in tow). Hard to say for sure though, I guess it depends on the incident and circumstances. Here's to hoping we never have to hit the evacuate button!

          "Better prepared and able to fight than dead by default..." Me
          "Live for something rather than die for nothing" George Patton

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          • #6
            I'm hoping something happens. I'm hoping a collapse of some form of government, or a large scale revolt, or even a major natural disaster that will effect more than just New Orleans.

            The only reason I say this is because people have become too dependant on frivolous things. High-end electronics, expensive cars, huge houses, and they've spent no effort to better the lives of those who surround them.

            Maybe the world needs a big, huge, smack on the head before everyone will wake up and realize what's really important in life.
            "Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." "The things you own end up owning you"-Tyler Durden

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            • #7
              VisineDrops- I've often thought the same thing; the country has become complacent and lazy, waiting for the government to step in and help them. However, the misery and unhappiness and the lives lost make me just wish people would smarten up without anything aweful happening. It's like when you have little kids...if they'd just listen to you, they wouldn't get hurt!

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              • #8
                how it could happen

                I live in charlotte and not to long ago we had a gas shortage. It was a chilling look into a possible future. on a friday afternoon I went to lunch and noticed lines at all the gas stations. by friday night people were starting to panic gas stations were out of gas and the ones that did have gas had long lines. by saturday morning all the atms were out of cash because everyone was getting cash and getting in line to buy gas. I see two very real possiblities, a terrorist attack that cripples our money and transportation system causing massive food shortages and civil unrest. The other is hyper inflation after watching gas go to over 4 dollars a gallon think what would happen if milk and bread and other food products did the same thing. Lets hope this doesnt happen but Im prepared if it does.

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                • #9
                  LA Riots and Borg INvasion

                  I was a punk 18 year old kid during the riots in LA while living south of the Citizen Combat zone. It made/makes me laugh at the hysteria that the media reported. Burning palm trees, Koreans shooting their handguns at roving bands of thugs, "black owned" spray painted on buildings, Hooligans riding around in suburbans looking for trouble and, last but certainly not least, the dreaded looters. I mean to say will it really be as bad as it is made out to be. If the NG and reserve units don't show up to deal with the riff raff the disease will spread allowing these individuals living in urban areas will inevitably head out looking/looting for other areas to burn and conquer. So travelling out of the burned out concrete jungles will be just as dangerous as staying. Would it be better to stand firm and then head out of your cities to rural/bug out areas?

                  As far as gas shortages go how many of us have a reserve of fuel to get out of dodge, 5 gallon cans, a rig with extra fuel cells, the ability to overlook others to get what you need? Would that put you on the same level as the looters et al.? When the cash runs out what speaks in its place? "Money talks, bullsh!t walks."

                  How much food do you have set aside for your survival/escape, how long will it last for? In reality, unless it is all freeze dried and weighs next to nothing, it will run out before you find a steady supply of food somebody else has not. OTOH, nature does not really respond to human shortages/riots so if you E&E area is "away" you might be safe. Do you have seeds to grow you own for the future?


                  Brosia, I hope it never goes down as well, but I am ready if it does.

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                  • #10
                    i think it will be slow coming then pick up speed.as far as a car or truck!forget that you wont be able to travel roads.its hiking across country will be the only escape:eek:!

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                    • #11
                      THERE IS NO HOPE THAT IT WILL NOT GO DOWN. IT IS NOT "IF" IT IS "WHEN"!!!
                      Pardon my shouting, but if you have not come to this conclusion yet then you are borderline sheeple. Please don't be offended by this, I say it out of concern and compassion.
                      I have no idea how it will happen. The government has so many potential scenarios staged at this time. For example: the unrest on the Mexico border, the financial collapse, terrorism, terrorism, terrorism (real or imagined), biological disaster, the sudden interest in our northern border, political unrest or collapse, attack from another country while we are in a very compromised position (weak economy, new unstable leadership, very little military to protect the homeland), food shortages, corporate collapse, "heaven forbid" an attack on the president that would create massive racial unrest, a nuclear attack on ANY scale, and I have not named them all.
                      If you are not convinced that disaster of some sort is imminent then research, research, research. It is not time to begin preparing, it is time to finish.
                      As to the other part of the question, as a police officer I will perform my duties until one of two things happen; my family becomes endangered or I am asked to go against the Constitution at which time all bets are off.
                      The quicker we accept our condition, the more prepared we will be to deal with it.
                      The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by beebopcop View Post
                        THERE IS NO HOPE THAT IT WILL NOT GO DOWN. IT IS NOT "IF" IT IS "WHEN"!!!

                        As to the other part of the question, as a police officer I will perform my duties until one of two things happen; my family becomes endangered or I am asked to go against the Constitution at which time all bets are off.
                        The quicker we accept our condition, the more prepared we will be to deal with it.
                        You are a cop (bebopCOP - hmmmm :o)? God bless you and your family!

                        I too, believe it's "when" not "if". I am using a mormon food calculator to figure out what we need. Am working on year 2, now. And how to put a garden in my teeny-tiny back yard.

                        Will buy and stock stuff until I get laid off - BO hates government contractors and I work for the DoD.
                        Last edited by Skyowl's Wife; 03-29-2009, 11:33 PM.
                        "If Howdy Doody runs against him, I'm voting for the puppet." - SkyOwl's Wife, 2012

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                        • #13
                          [QUOTE=bullpupm2;19006]What do you expect to happen to the masses of sheep when TSHTF? How do any of you hope the splatter will happen... and when?

                          First let there be no mistaking that the force driving this upcoming catastrophe has most if not all possible contingencies planned for.....this has been in the works for decades or longer....keep your radios tune to news talk radio frequencies....you may hear something along the lines of "national emergency", "martial law"....or you may hear dead silence as though your host went on a long break....you'll know times up. You can then expect to see checkpoints established.....everywhere.
                          O.W.
                          Last edited by Oscar Wilde; 03-29-2009, 11:12 PM.
                          Things are seldom what they seem.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Skyowl's Wife View Post
                            You are a cop (bebopCOP - hmmmm :o)? God bless you and your family!

                            I too, believe it's "when" not "if". I am using a mormon food calculator to figure out what we need. Am working on year 2, now. And how to put a garden in my teeny-tiny back yard.

                            Will buy and stock stuff until I get laid off - BO hates government contractors and I work for the DoD.
                            Thank you Ma'am, and God bless you and yours. You may want to look into hanging gardens as I am. A lot can be grown from a pot hung and a hole cut in the bottom.
                            The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

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                            • #15
                              how it will happen

                              I too, think that it will happen slowly, but once word gets out (depending on exactly what happens) that food, etc. shortages are here or expected, people will surely get crazy. I experienced the fights during the big power outage a few years back. Our town had power, and we were right on the border of the outage. Folks came from everywhere for fuel & ice. The fights at the fuel station were stupid and frightening. As a first responder, I would do what I could for people, but I would definetely protect and support my family first! Since we're already in a rural area, we have a 'head start' and will bunker down at home, waiting for family to arrive as per our plan.

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