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Are the good times really over for good???

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    I wish a buck was still silver :mad:

    This a classic Merle Haggard tune from 1981!!!

    The sad thing is that this song is even more meaningful today than it was in then:eek:

    Are we rolling downhill like a snowball headed for hell??? With no kind of chance for the flag or the liberty bell...


    Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to
    beat you to death with it because it is empty.

    The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

  • #2
    I love Merle, I think I am gonna go dig out that CD before I head out to dinner.
    My weapon can kill, it isn't limited to mere assault


    • #3
      Nice post. I sometimes wounder if the younger generation has a clue or are they just followers.
      In my lumpy chair


      • #4
        Originally posted by oly View Post
        Nice post. I sometimes wounder if the younger generation has a clue or are they just followers.
        Walk into a night club and look around. Flat-billed backwards-turned baseball caps, Abercrombie and Fitch shirts, flip flops and Khaki shorts, pants down to their hips, and everyone listens to hip-hop.

        I've noticed a lot of the younger generation don't pay any attention to politics and what's happening in our country and around the world. They're more engaged in new ways of bedding the opposite gender, what clothes they should wear, and what coffee shop their friends stop at.

        I've also noticed that parents these days don't teach their children anything anymore. Math, science, and reading are very important, but so are current world problems, History, and social sciences. Our schools have become lax on their requirements for a passing grade, and the parents of these students don't seem to care. "Finish high school so you can get into college, so you can get a great job!"

        It's come to my attention that most high school students have no clue what they want to do, and have no direction. People in their 20's going to community colleges to further their education, while still not knowing what they want out of life.

        I'm 30 years old, and I still have no clue what I want to do. Neither do most of my friends. People I went to high school with are working in kitchens and framing houses for a living, and when asked if they're happy with their life, I get a shrug and hear, "I guess, it's a job."

        Complacency, apathy, and ignorance.
        "Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." "The things you own end up owning you"-Tyler Durden


        • #5
          It sounds like you know the same people i do. I tried the "i'll go to college to figure out what to do with myself" routine. at 32, still haven't found my calling. teaching my kids about politics and economics and hopefully instilling a hard work ethic that may be what carries them through.


          • #6
            I'm afraid the good times are over. I'm probably older than anyone else on this forum.
            Learn how to feed yourself and your family. Then teach them how to do the same and how to save their money.
            We as a nation have squandered our natural resources,and sold our souls to the credit card companies. Those of our grandparents generation lived by different rules. Owe no one anything and your life is yours.

            An Amish Man once said to me. "We buy what we need,you buy what you want." It made sense to me and still does.

            I'm sure you have noticed that our gov. is complaining that we are now saving too much money. The whole system is on credit! If you can pay off a house loan in 30yrs,you can pay cash for it in 10yrs.Think about it.

            My grandparents paid cash for everything and so do I. If you want your children to have something,leave them a home that's paid for and the skills to feed themselves. Even in the Burbs you can grow an amazing amount of food in your back yard and still, if you have one,go to your job everyday. Each thing you grow is one less that you have to buy. Besides it tastes better too.

            This is not a lecture,it's simply things to consider as options for our changing world. We can not put back the Virgin Forests or the Iron Ore back into the ground nor can we remove the pollution from the Rivers and Oceans any time soon.

            Folks in the Tulsa Oklahoma area are planting vegetable gardens to cut costs and the Cops are complaining that they might be hiding Pot in those gardens. "un Frick'n Believable" I wonder what Agri Biz Jackass planted that idea!

            "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow the fields of those who don't."-Thomas Jefferson


            • #7
              It's time for older folks to point out that you don't live on credit to the kiddies. This is a bad economic time, but if people keep up the "want want want" it won't ever get better. Now, wanting something is normal and natural and it's what dreams and careers are made on, but people have to work for it BEFORE they get it. Credit is the key...savings is the key...I don't care what the banks say, it only makes sense. Banks and business will readjust to a more natural and sustainable level if people wake up and live within their means.
              A house was out of the question for me when I first started out. My father-in-law gave us some land to set up on and we got an inheritance of $1500. We found an old mobile home and bought it. We paid $6500 and set it up on the land. We dug the water line and septic ourselves. We paid $200 a month for that mobile home and lived in it for 15 years.We practically rebuilt it a bit at a time...grew our own garden, raised chickens, beat the bushes for berries and wild apples. We had a good life, never had a credit card and were able to take small set backs without much problem. (old life/old husband)...then I met a new fella and he and his ex had lived on credit for years. He laughed at how puny my income was, said his "disposable income" was that amount. Then he was going through his finances in preperations for his final divorce settlement and found out that he had been living a lie. He was in debt up to his eyeballs and had NO disposable income, no extras, nothing. He woke up at some point during preparations for his bankruptcy and learned to manage his money. We live now having a large credit line, but not using it. We keep 3 months of living expenses in the savings...he learned that a bigger house was not what he needed, a SECURE house was what he needed. We don't live beyond our means, the credit is there for an emergency, we stockpile emergency supplies and keep a rotation of 3 months food going (working on 12 months). He no longer needs fancy cruises he couldn't afford for vacation, he has healthy hobbies like wood carving and wood working, we collects guns and other things instead of games, pool tables, and speed boats. There is one cell phone that he got thru work and a pay as you go phone for emergencies, not 3 plus the land line. His "second vehicle" is now a John Deere tractor that he adores instead of a rusting old Jag that he can only drive 12 miles without repairing. It's all about priorities and living within your means. Our children are learning that as well, but it would have been better if they had never known the other way. The Amish are right!


              • #8
                I watch C-Span's BookTV every Sunday as book authors give presentations on thier latest book.
                Today Michael Panzer spoke about his book "When Giants Fall". Panzer has 25 years experience in currency and stock markets and forsees a global depression/hyperinflation. "The light at the end of the tunnel that many Traders see today may be a frieght train comming straight at them." he says.
                The crash may induce a restructuring of all societies along a pre-industrial model over the next few decades which may divide the US and other countries into regional entities that ignore previous state lines. The cities of the USA he says will become ghost towns when the transport industry fails. His presentation was given in the NY Public Libary and many of the listeners were taken aback, one person actually had an emotional breakdown. When asked what skill sets PPl should learn to deal with the new economy he replied "Firearms Training"
                He has a web site:
                Add to this an often ignored economic observation that economies run in 60 year cycles of boom and bust (we would be approching the 30 year 'bust') an economic colapse could well be on it's way, especially with 'The Annointed One' doing so much to help the situation along.
                Last edited by kenno; 03-08-2009, 07:06 PM.
                The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.