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  • Long_Hunter
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    In my time in the military, I never heard such an indepth discussion on the qualities of 550 cord:D! I still have a full kit bag of "cut from the chute" cord I got from the riggers nearly ten years ago. As much as I have used, I haven't dented that stash.
    I suppose I have been fortunate enough to have taken 550 cord for granted. You have opened my eyes! Thanks.

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  • Big_Saw
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    Originally posted by RossA View Post
    Now you had to go and get all scientific on me.
    Had to....my first paracord hammock ended up in my having to see a chiropractor....it was only then that I researched the difference between tensile and lateral strength...;)

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  • RossA
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    Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
    Another important thing to remember is this: paracord is rated by tensile strength...or the maximum breaking strength of somethng while being pulled...this is not the same as lateral bearing strength....for instance, if you were to build a hammock out of 550 PC, and weigh more than 200 Lbs, you'd probably soon realize the difference between tensile strength and lateral strength....FYI...;)
    Now you had to go and get all scientific on me.

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  • Rustyshakelford
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    Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
    Incidentally, REAL type III 550 paracord has between 7 and 9 inner (gut) strands....and mil-spec really only comes in three colors: White, black, and olive drab.

    The type II stuff has between 4 and 7 gut strands and only has a rated strength of 400Lbs...

    Quality mil-spec 550 cord should have at least 7 strands, and feel firm to the touch when squeezed between the thumb and finger. If the outer braid feels loose at all, or like it could use more inner filling, you're probably handling cheap, lower-than-par cord.

    Chinese paracord is available at your local Wal-Mart, and is very useful for making smoke (burning it), disposing of cash (buying it), and having a good laugh (your friends have dicovered your possession of it)....:D

    My $0.02...
    Just for you....since you are a paracord junkie.

    http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=347656

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  • Big_Saw
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    Another important thing to remember is this: paracord is rated by tensile strength...or the maximum breaking strength of somethng while being pulled...this is not the same as lateral bearing strength....for instance, if you were to build a hammock out of 550 PC, and weigh more than 200 Lbs, you'd probably soon realize the difference between tensile strength and lateral strength....FYI...;)

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  • methusaleh
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    I will check my old emails and search eBay over the next few days to try to find that source.

    Nope, none of mine's for sale, I cut a few lengths of 100' or so each, and put one in each of my BoBs, toolboxes, cars, and home utility cabinet. The big spool sits in storage. I want to say it was a full mile, but when I had someone run the NSN, it was some odd length, like 5065' or something.

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  • Big_Saw
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    Incidentally, REAL type III 550 paracord has between 7 and 9 inner (gut) strands....and mil-spec really only comes in three colors: White, black, and olive drab.

    The type II stuff has between 4 and 7 gut strands and only has a rated strength of 400Lbs...

    Quality mil-spec 550 cord should have at least 7 strands, and feel firm to the touch when squeezed between the thumb and finger. If the outer braid feels loose at all, or like it could use more inner filling, you're probably handling cheap, lower-than-par cord.

    Chinese paracord is available at your local Wal-Mart, and is very useful for making smoke (burning it), disposing of cash (buying it), and having a good laugh (your friends have dicovered your possession of it)....:D

    My $0.02...
    Last edited by Big_Saw; 02-08-2009, 04:20 PM.

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  • Diesel
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    Here's some info

    Military grade 550 paracord is a Kernmantle rope known as Mil-C-5040 Type 3. It is made of nylon so that is dries quickly and is mildew resistant. It is 1/8 inch in diameter and is rated for 550 lbs.

    Specs on 550 are
    III 550 lb (249 kg) 30% 225 ft (69 m) 7 to 9 32/1 or 36/1

    there is even a 750 out there, with specs of
    IV 750 lb (340 kg) 30% 165 ft (50 m) 11 32/1, 36/1, or 44/1

    While some commercially available paracord is made to specification, even when labeled as such a given product may not correspond exactly to a specific military type and can be of differing construction, quality, color, or strength. Particularly poor quality examples may have significantly fewer strands in the sheath or core, cores constructed of bulk fiber rather than individual yarns, or include materials other than nylon.

    US Military issue paracord is specified by MIL-C-5040H in six types: I, IA, II, IIA, III, IV.[2] Types IA and IIA are composed solely of a sheath without a core. Type III, a type commonly found in use, is nominally rated with a minimum breaking strength of 550 pounds, thus the sobriquet "550 cord".



    MY personal understanding is the REAL Mil-C-5040 Type 3 is a 7 strand rope that is not just laid in the sheath but intertwined/braided within the sheath.

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  • Diesel
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    bahahah i think everyone knows the wally worls crap

    But most don't realize there's fake loq quality 5 and 7 strand pcord out there not made to the same specs

    methusaleh is now selling paracord everyone lol

    But seriously, see if u can locate that guy for me, last i checked i had only seen them in 1000 and 1200 ft rolls

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  • Big_Saw
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    Care to guess which one's from Wally-World and which is the BQ stuff?

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  • methusaleh
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    A few years ago I was the sole bidder, at 99 cents, for a spool on eBay that I believe was 5000 feet. Larger than anything I had seen in the Army! The seller was willing to ship it Parcel Post and it only cost $26 to ship it. I believe the same seller still sells those size spools for cheap, I have seen his auctions from time to time. Yes it was the real deal, sealed in plastic with the NSN label, just like I used to see straight from a depot.

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  • Big_Saw
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    Originally posted by Diesel View Post
    This would be a good time to discuss here or start another thread on what defines REAL paracord, and the quality of it, and how do you figure if it's real issue, or make believe aftermarket made to no specs for the surplus stores and camping stores stuff, because it's out there lol.

    5 strand vs 7 strand, the sheath, the twist pattern, the real manufacturers vs gimmick manufacturers.
    Well, unless you just need some cheap cord for a temporary lashing or some other disposable use, don't buy the sh*t from Wally-World....it's absolute garbage. The gut strands aren't even woven...they're just twisted fibrous mess....I've been able to snap it with my bare hands, and I know I don't have a 550Lb pull strength from hand to hand.

    If you can access a PX, get it there, or buy from a reputable supplier, like Brigade Quartermasters, Galls, etc. Even the stuff from the Sportsman's Guide is questionable.

    If I can't get to the PX at Chaffee, I just order a spool or two from BQ...their stuff is certifiably mil-spec 550, and reasonably priced.

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  • Diesel
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    This would be a good time to discuss here or start another thread on what defines REAL paracord, and the quality of it, and how do you figure if it's real issue, or make believe aftermarket made to no specs for the surplus stores and camping stores stuff, because it's out there lol.

    5 strand vs 7 strand, the sheath, the twist pattern, the real manufacturers vs gimmick manufacturers.

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  • Keitaboy
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    1000 feet for under $40.00 www.cheaperthandirt.com

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  • Zombie Axe
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    http://store.colemans.com/cart/parac...81169071ad4534

    Good folks to deal with :)

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