My BOB Thread. (Long but I think worth a read)

[registror]

I'm going to put 100 lbs of stuff on a bicycle, my rifle across the handlebars, in spring clamps, 20 lbs of mission-essential gear on my back and move 70 lbs of very high calorie food to already buried drums near the storage rental, so I can get that food secured and move on to the BOL with just the bike and the BOB. I can return for the food a bit at a time later. I'll need to get the netting and snares out of the buried drums, set the net traps in the lake and the snares above the salt-licks, again baiting the licks with carrots and applies from my fridge. So I'll be able to swiftly store several hundred lbs of jerky and dried fish. There's several hundred lbs of salt, sugar, grains, molasses, powdered milk out there, and I"ll be bringing 200,000 calories on the bike. I'll be able to hole up for a year during daylight hours, while 99% of population dies off. Then I can use the sprouts and the root veggies. The game and fish will all be gone in a couple of months, so that jerky has to be in the ground in a very few days. Ditto any dogs that later get snared or shot.

[registror]

The above is 10x too much bulk and weight. You'll have to cache 90% of that stuff at your BOL, at night, showing no light, leaving no sign, and frankly,it's not worth the trouble. Just caching FOOD is a huge enough pita. You'll hurt yourself in the first 5 miles trying to haul a small fraction of that stuff. If you''ll be off road, fighting mud, snow, brush, hills, etc, you have to hold the weight to 45 lbs or you'll regret not having done so. The theres over 20 lbs of armor, guns, ammo, accessories, solar and biolite charger, rechargeable batteries, night vision, day-night scope, The packs weigh 3 lbs, there has to be 2 lbs of food, 6 lbs of water, 2 lbs of tools, 2 lbs of clothing. That leaves just 9 lbs for everything else. I know how to stay warm and dry with just 4.5 lbs of sleep/shelter gear, without a fire. Do you? This is with just cammies and cap. Still need the trekking poles, miscellaneous, lighting, fire gear, water carrying gear, water treatment gear, medical kit.

[brewer101]

Thanks Mag's good info might pick up a few for my bags as a secondary method while on the move.

[Mags]

Frontier Pro's are labeled for up to 50gal. That's very subjective though. Totally dependent on the status of the water to be filtered. Brakish water or water heavy with silt will clog the filter sooner than 50gal. Even when "backwashed" by blowing through it the straws are limited. They are a temporary fix not a permenent solution. Use'em up and toss'em. Well not really. I wouldn't toss it in a survival situation.

[brewer101]

Those Salomon's look sweet! I see you seem to really like frontier pro's and I must admit the price point is pretty sweet. I've always been a chlorine or iodine dude, didn't really trust filters, how long do the frontiers last for or do you use and then just dispose?

[Applejack]

Very nice cup. I like the way it is made. should last a life time and more.

[Buggyout]

I'd also like to get the cup. It looks very natural and classy.

-Buggy

[myakka]

I had to google the cup. I like that. I would probably use it all the time, not just hiking.

[Buggyout]

Mags,

I'm glad you took the "Glock" hit. Listen, I know there is a lot of bad info on Glocks out there. I can tell you by experience, that I have never had, or seen a Glock "Blow up" or have a catastrophic malfunction. I was a 1911 guy in the 90's when I started police work and was issued a Glock. I couldn't shoot it and hated it! But...After putting thousands of rounds through the gun, I wouldn't carry few others besides. The compact will shoot as well as your full size when you get it! You'll be surprised at how well it shoots. Your holster is from a company that I buy from. It sounds like you have your ducks in line!

If you are military (Vet included) or a LEO, you can get an amazing deal on Glocks! (My latest cost me $380!)

Keep us informed! GOOD POSTS!

-Buggy

[Mags]

(Just my opinion here. Keep in mind any supplies are better that none.)

Many years ago I was checking out a British company called BCB International. I liked several of their products including their "Emergency Ration Kit." Problem was I supposedly couldn't get the "food" items through Customs.

Well it seems like Best Glide has partnered with BCB to some extent. I finally ordered two of the "Advanced Emergency Ration Kit." First disappointment was my fault. From the pictures without looking closely I thought the outer bags were a dark green foil not silver. The bags are big and have a metric **** ton of empty dead space. The bags are not vaccum packed either. I won't be throwing them in my pack.



I opted for the "Advanced" kits. They offer a few more survival items and weren't a lot more $$$



The biggest let down was when I dumped out the contents. I was far from impressed while admitting that I had high hopes for this kit. The food items were simple and limited based on the space available. The survival items were basic and generic. The survival instructions are photo copied onto a regular sheet of paper.



I feel that many many people here on Survival Magazine could put together much better kits. Not only better components but packaging as well. Pretty much totally disappointed. I will not be throwing this in my pack or vehicle anytime soon.

[Mags]

I have been wanting to increase my food stores. Espespecially ready to eat bug out type foods. To that end I picked up a case of Long Range Patrol MRE's & a case of First Strike Rations. Both cases are sealed and have current inspection dates. There are also two cases of new regular MRE's Menu A & B inbound as I type.

The LRP rations are like regular MRE's but to reduce weight the entree is a dehydrated Mt House Pro Pack type deal. The FSR's are filled with calories and goodness!



LINKS,

http://www.mreinfo.com/us/fsr/first-strike-ration.html

http://www.mreinfo.com/us/older/lrp-dsc ... -page.html

[Mags]

Come on, who doesn't want a Multicam Jet Boil PCS?!



Next to my subdued black Jet Boil.

[Mags]

I have several kits already but I picked up this new Otis kit on the cheap.

"Otis Deluxe Military Cleanning Kit." It has supplies and tools to clean pretty much all the firearms I own. Plus I really liked the new "sealing" zipper. Only annoying thing is the rattle of the brushes inside their little tube containers. Simple solution...stuff extra patches in the tubes taking up dead space.

[Mags]

Far as I know these Nuwick Candles come in a 120HR bigger Yellow Can & the smaller 44HR Green Can. I always keep one in my Vehicle Kit and during Winter months I add an extra. Of course I went with the 44HR ones cause they are green.



Anyhoo I espescially like them because they are more of a self contained kit than just a candle. The candle comes in it's own tin, (good container once the candles burned away.) Plus it has multiple wicks so you can adjust the burn time & heat/light output. Also a small box of matches and small tweezers for placing and moving the wicks as needed.





Finally I make sure the plastic bag is all tucked in then I seal my candle tins with 100MPH Tape like ya do with various survival tins. Now my "Candle Kit" is waterproof.



All in all I really like these candles. Always Keep ventillation in mind whenever burning candles within an enclosed space!

[Mags]

I've seen these hanging off the back of many a pack over the years. More so in europe. I always wanted one but never found them in stores or the web. Thus my search began....

What I can up with was the Finnsh (Finland) Kuksa. A small cup hand carved from the burl of the rare Arctic Birch Tree. After carving and sanding they are boiled in saltwater for 12hrs. I opted for the two finger hole handle with inlaid Reindeer Stag. This wood is absolutly gorgeous! I can not state that enough. The Stag inlay is even angled perfectly for my left thumb. So much beauty and joy from a simple wooden cup.

That is not a glare from the flash. It is a blonde burl that runs counter to the grain and goes all the way through the cup. AWESOME!









This cup is the heat! It was going to be my favorite Christmas gift to me but alas something with even more awesomeness became briefly available!!!! You will not find a more beautiful wooden camp cup.