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My BOB Thread. (Long but I think worth a read)

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  • My BOB Thread. (Long but I think worth a read)

    I Do Not Carry All This At Once. Just Showing Options.
    I have so much crap lying around I figured it was about time to put together a Post with a list of items with photos and explain what I can. The list of equipment is long, heavy, and pretty inclusive. I use, have used, carry, and have carried everything on the list. Of course not all at once! Some of the items have different options listed. For example, my pack, I’d carry either the Kifaru ZXR or the Kifaru EMR (in winter) not both, one stove and cookset not four of each. I like to think of it as the mission driving the gear and not the other way around.
    I tried to break it all down around the, “priorities of life,” to help keep things simple and easy to follow. For the priorities I used the “Rule of three’s.” 3 minutes without air/medical treatment, 3 hours without protection (clothing/shelter/fire), 3 days without water (clean/pure), 3 weeks without food, and 3 months without hope (Knowledge/Experience/Skill/Faith).
    My loadouts are always changing and evolving. The items listed show what I use with multiple options for many of them. I have no idea what the wieght would be trying to carry all of the listed items at once but I can assure you it would be a kick in the pants! After doing my homework, Research and trying what I can, I then make the best choice for my needs. Like most of you out there I have thrown away a metric **** ton of cash on crap gear and items that just didn’t live up. I believe in “pay once, cry once.” By that I mean, If I buy a quality tent and care for it that tent will last a lot longer than a cheap Wally World backyard model before it needs replaced. These are items that your life or someone you loves life could depend on. Get the absolute best you can of each item even if that means saving for it. Do not get me wrong, there are a few items you could save a little on and cheap options that are quality pieces. On the whole though, you get what you pay for.
    When I do find “that” piece of kit that works perfectly for me I hang on to it! Sometimes I’ll even buy more than one. I do not baby my gear in any way nor does it set in a locker/closet/bin/trunk, but I do not abuse it either. Take care of your equipment and it’ll take care of you. I keep my bags and gear organized the same way every time I pack it. That way I can find whatever I need by feel whether it’s dark, raining, snowing sideways or I’m just tired. On to the information……

    PACK; I drank the Kool-Aid a long time ago! I’ve gone from the Marauder, to the Pointman, to the EMR. Even though you can compress Kifaru’s packs pretty well I opted to upgrade my “all around” pack to the ZXR with XTL. The ZXR works well all year round even for winter overnights. Especially with a large POD attached. That baby swallows up winter sleeping bags. For extended trips and winter multiday outings I still us the cavernous EMR. The ZXR and all accessories are MultiCam. While the EMR and all of its accessories are Olive, but with multiple coats of tan/brown Krylon. The EMR served me well during two trips to Iraq. The modularity of these packs and accessory pouches gives me the ability to streamline or add volume as my mission/needs dictate. This is great because having items hanging off my pack is a major no go pet pieve of mine. Besides just looking sloppy it’s a great way to loose kit and get hung up on every stick or branch. The ability to use any manufacturers MOLLE compatible pouches is also a huge plus. I always use a few add-ons with my packs. Since Kifaru packs come with 27 miles of straps I started using Velcro One Wrap to tame them all and moved on to Web Dominators. When the rain and wet snow fall I protect my packs with Outdoor Research’s (OR), HydroLite pack covers. I protect the contents inside with OR HydroLite compression dry sacks. Definitely needed since all the packs and pouches have grommets! Should things get dramatic and I need to get off the X quickly I love that I can cache my main pack while beating feet with the E&E Pack detached.

    MEDICAL; Adventure Medical Kits Ultralight series are well thought out, inclusive, lightweight, and waterproof. They are designed for active, on the move outdoors people. The Ultralight Pro is listed as being suited to a group of 1-10 people, for 1-7 days. The Ultralight Pro is pretty comprehensive but there is still plenty of room in the main bag to add any upgrades. My upgrades focused on traumatic injury treatment and more meds. I bought a couple extra Aloksaks so all of my upgrades are just as waterproof as the original kit. I have the training and experience to use all of the items in my medical kit should the need ever arise.

    CLOTHING; I tried to break this category down following the body, and by keeping all of the special cold weather “winter” gear separated. As a rule I try not to use any natural fibers other than wool or silk, so no cotton. I always have a hat of some kind, and normally sleep with a beanie on. I also keep a “clean” shirt for sleeping in. It helps to keep my sleeping bags that much cleaner for that much longer. I stick with neutral, natural colors, even some camo. Run ops commando before but haven’t had any issues with the Under Armor Boxer Jocks. I like the extra support for the boys. I can not say enough about the GoLite Stealth Shirt! This Gore Next2Skin fabric, zip up collared shirt has saved my bacon many times. From windy rain swept range days, dramatic temperature drops in the field, to sudden snow falls in Northern Iraq. The Patagonia Rain Shadow Jacket and Micro Burst Pants are great lightweight packable shell pieces. That is why they are also listed in the “winter” section. While the issued ECWCS items are way more durable for the long haul, when your bugging out over land the Patagonia shell set is hands down a better option. I’ve been wearing Danner Acadia’s for years. They are comfortable and provide the support I need humping a pack cross country. Neither pair of mine are insulated. I keep the non Gore-Tex tan suede pair for those hot summer trips. The winter list is all about layers! Putting on layers and peeling them off as needed in order to keep from getting overheated, (sweating.) The Patagonia DAS Parka and Micro Puff Pants compress really small and come with their own waterproof stuff sack. Both use Polarguard 3D insulation which is way more compressable than fleece. Throwing on the DAS Parka and Micro Puff Pants as my insulating layer then the Rain Shadow Jacket and Micro Burst Pants as my shell layer has gotten me through some pretty nasty winter weather. I find that I’m addicted to my neck gaiter in cold weather. With all those vessels close to the surface I can really regulate my temp via the gaiter. As many of you already know WindPro or Windstopper Fleece is the shit! Hats, gloves, jackets, pants, hell yeah. For those really cold outing I’ll strap on my Sorel Conquest boots that are rated for -40F.

    SHELTER; With several back injuries making sleeping on the ground less and less desirable finding the Hennessy Hammock a few years back was a God send! I now have the Survivor model in woodland camo. Spent many nights kicked back in this baby during some wicked bad weather. Always stayed dry as a bone. I sometimes use my Ridgerest Pad inside it when the weather cools off. I can’t say enough about how well I sleep in it and how good my back feels in the morning vs ground sleeping. You might not think it because the hammock’s up off the ground in the trees but it does make for a very “low profile” camp site. I use it almost all year until it gets too cold. I do not have nor will I be buying any of the extras to make it into a “4 season” shelter. I use my Integral Designs SilTarp II (8X10’) all year round. It’s big enough with several set up options for use as a shelter but light and small enough to carry all the time regardless. Combine the SilTarp with some mossi netting and you have a cool, secure, weatherproof ultralight summer shelter. My mossi netting of choice currently is the Pro Force, Double Combo 4 Way Net. This netting comes pretreated with Permethrine, is olive in color and sets up in about a million different ways. The Ti stakes I use are very light weight and strong but wouldn’t be good for sandy soil. That is not an issue for me around here. In winter my Integral Designs Exp. Unishelter in woodland camo is the best bivy option for me. Small, light, very low profile, totally waterproof, and opens down the side. Bivy’s that are “top loading” are one giant pain in the ass to crawl into and out of! Be careful when buying bivy’s and sleeping pads. Make sure both the bivy zipper and your sleeping bag zipper are on the same side. Also have to make sure that your sleeping pad will fit into the Bivy. Learned this the hardway. 25” wide luxurious Thermarest pad that wouldn’t fit into the UniShelter stuffed with my winter sleeping bag. I use a chunk of British, Individual Protection Kit, tarp in olive as my ground cloth. I also use cut to fit chunks of IPK’s as footprints for all of my tents. It has been waterproof, light, and tough as nails! It’s always on the bottom and doesn’t have even a small hole or tear after many years of use.

    SLEEPING; Most of the year I use my Ridgerest or ProLite Short sleeping pads. The Ridgerest is strapped to the outside of my pack normally on the top. On the top helps keep it from getting torn when I un-ass my pack. A plus for the ProLite Short is that it fits neatly and completely inside my packs. All the way down to a 3-day assault pack. The bright orange color is a little much for me but it’s only out of the bag a short time before it’s covered up. In the winter months I run a “pad combo.” On the bottom is a cut down Mil Issue closed cell foam puss pad. On top of that is my Thermarest Luxury Camp Regular. That is a lot of padding and insulation. I do not get cold while sleeping in the winter. I haven’t upgraded to the Exped down pads due to the fact that as stated I already have several Thermarest pads and haven’t had any trouble or issues with them. Summertime sleeping bags I’ll go over warmest to least. Wiggy’s FTRSS Overbag in black is plenty warm enough to get me into the fall. In the morning the black color really soaks in the sun’s rays (heat). Very nice after a damp chilly night. I have two Softie 3 Merlin bags. One is Olive the other is Tan. I have a Softie fleece liner that adds about 10-15F to the Merlins but when stuffed together the resulting bulk is the same as one of my lower rated bags. One of my favorite pieces of kit is my Kifaru Woobie! Wrapped up in this lil’ slice of heaven is as warm as the Merlin bags easily. WARNING: Do not leave your Woobie lay out at home! Too many stories of wives, girlfriends, kids, and dogs stealing them! Normally I have an AMK ThermoLite Bivy II that resides in my various kits and bags. The ThermoLite is a nice bit of protection in a small bundle. When winter comes and the merc drops I have several options but my hands down favorite go to bag is my Wiggy’s Ultima Thule FTRSS. This is a black main bag with a black overbag that when combined are rated to -60F. I have a North Face 0F Goliath bag, a North Face -20F Tundra bag, a used Mil Issue 3 Part MSS, and a brand new Mil Issue 3 Part MSS. All eleven of my sleeping bags are synthetic. I do not own any down bags. They are too expensive and I want/need the ability of my gear to keep me warm even when wet. WARNING: Keep a close eye on your “Woobies!” Girlfriends, wives, kids, and pets have all been known to claim ownership of “Woobies.”

    FIRE; Very important to survival. Fire can do a lot for me. Dry my clothes, keep my ass at 98.6F, thaw my frozen water, boil to purify my water, cook my food killing off all the “cooties,” keep preditory animals at bay, and raise my morlae. You get the point, it does a lot. I keep multiple disposable, adjustable flame lighters stashed throughout my gear. They are in my fire kit, in my cooking kits, with my stoves and of course in my pocket. My bottles of lifeboat matches are the same way. Placed in various places throughout my gear. The Gerber Strike Force is a large unit that takes two hands to operate but the size of this unit is also a help. It’s larger size is easier to grasp and manipulate with cold numbing hands. The Strike Force provides quite a shower of sparks. The Spark-Lite System can be used one handed which is nice should I get injured. The Spark-Lite is small, quick and easy to use. The Tinder Quick Tabs work great. They really take a spark and work even better when fluffed up a bit. Of course cotton balls are cheaper and can be supped up by soaking but I got the Quick Tabs so that’s what I pack. A large Magnesium Block with embedded striker is always thrown in my bags and kits. The two candles are made of edible oleo stearin, (vegetable fat), a food source, and burn for 10Hrs each. The Fresnel lens was cheap and helps with splinters etc.

    WATER; I have not been a heat casualty but probably should have been several times. I have run many missions in the 125-135F heat of Iraq. I have set in hides for 12, 24, to 36hrs in this type of dry heat. I’ve also run missions in the jungles of the Philippines in 110-112F heat with 90-100% humidity. Point is, I know how the body works and how important water is to survival. When heading out my 3L camelbak is full and loaded in my pack. I also have two filled 32oz Nalgene Bottles. The Nalgene bottles get their own parkas during the winter. If there’s any chance of the water in my bottles freezing I’ll store them ass up so the mouth freezes last if at all. The two Nalgene 96oz Flex Cantenes take up little space when empty, weigh nothing but are robust with the added advantage of their wide mouth matching up with various filters. These I use when hauling water or just maxing out my onboard capability. That would be a metric **** ton of weight and I only carry what is manageable. The 6L MSR Dromedary Bag is for base camp and top off operations. I do not run around the countryside humping 100lbs of water! My water treatment plan is redundant like most of my other important items. I use an MSR Mil Issue MIOX pen, and a Katadyn Hiker Pro Micro Filter model. I picked up the microfilter back when it was still under the PUR name. If I’m under the gun and on the move I carry AuqaMira tabs, dropp’em in and keep on rock’en. Coffee filters thrown in, no weight or space used. The Bandana is already in my kit and helps to support the coffee filters while passing water through.

    FOOD; Simple, easy, and filling. What can I say, brother likes to eat!

    COOKING; When it comes to cooking I can roll with foil straight on the coals or using a stick, to baking with my stove and Outback Oven. All of the food items I have listed have little to no prep and minimal cook times. While on regular outings and camping trips my menu’s vary and can be quite complicated. I enjoy relaxing and seeing what I can turn out in the backcountry. I’ve had several stoves over the years. After giving my MSR Dragonfly to a friend I picked up an Optimus Nova multifuel stove. It goes from blast furnace to simmer specialist as good as the Dragonfly. When packed it takes up less space than the Dragonfly and I really like the fuel line to bottle coupler. This is my main winter and extravagent meal stove. For fast and light trips the JetBoil and a couple Mt. House Pro Pak meals hit the spot! Of course I kick’em up a bit with cheeses and spices. When humping a JetBoil in the winter remember to keep those canisters warm. The single pot that I have been using the most for many years is my MSR Stowaway Pot. It’s a simple stainless pot with a locking handle that secures the lid with a clasp when closed. This pot has been indestructable. It provides a good amount of protected storage inside it when the lid is secured via the handle. When used with the Esbit Stove and a foil windscreen I can boil up some Ramen and Chicken in a few minutes with plenty of fuel block left for a hot drink after. When the Titanium revolution hit I jumped on the band wagon and bought a Snow Peak Mini Solo set. I have used it and keep it packed ready to go but………simply put, shit burns on the bottom without constant stirring! There just isn’t enough bottom surface for the heat to spread out. Even with stirring I’ve had food burn. I use the same set up as with the Stowaway Pot. Time after time my Mini Solo gets left behind. When it comes to utensils my current favorite is the Guyot Designs MealGear Utensils. They are light, super robust, and offer several features in just two pieces. They are sized perfectly for use with the JetBoil and Pro Pak meals. I love it when I finish a meal and my knuckles are clean! I also keep a Snow Peak Ti Spoork on a 550 cord lanyard along with a P38 and a flint and striker. I like having a thermal container in the winter time. The Stanley Outdoor food jar is great for hot drinks and can handle hot foods easily with its wide mouth. Works really well for late morning hot drinks or a warm boost on the trail.

    NAVIGATION; Plenty of redundancey here. GPS is a Garmin Rino 130, nuff said. Lots of experience with the GI Lensatic compass (Tritium). I Keep my “pace count” written on a piece of luminous tape that is affixed to the inside lid. (With a proper pace count and good terrain association anybody can land nav like a pro.) I like the lightwieght smaller size of the Silva 4B. I normally loop the lanyard through a belt loop and keep it in my pocket. It is tritium as well. Never know when you’ll be covering ground at night and laying up during the day. The Suunto M9 goes on my wrist, around my belt or on a pack strap. Throw in a couple of the NATO survival compasses with the luminous dots and bobs your uncle. No pun intended. Map case keeps them dry and in one piece.

    LIGHTING; This ones simple. Headlamps, Petzl, and LED sum it up. For any high power needs (spotting) I go to a Surefire. The ones that get the most use are my TacTikka XP, and my E1e Executive Elite. Lastly the Guyot Design Firefly LED Nalgene lid gives off plenty of light for me to work in my tents, bivy, and around my hammock. Great battery life on the Firefly as well.

    COMMUNICATION; Garmin Rino 130 FRS/GMRS radio with NOAA weather channels built in. For getting info I have a Grundig Porshe Design SW radio. I will be upgrading this to one of the SW radios out there that have a self power option. Finally my Motorola cell phone with extnded battery.

    POWER; Technology needs power, period! I have a Brunton SolarRoll 14 that I use on extended outings and pulk sled outings during the winter. Just to big for hauling everywhere. My go to source is my Solio. This is not only a charger but has an onboard battery that holds a charge for up to a year. I head out with it fully charged from home. It’ll fully charge my cell twice before it needs recharged. On a nice clear day it doesn’t take all day to recharge either. I rigged up a way to mount it on the outside of my pack so it charges while I’m on the trail. I keep my batteries safe and organized in PowerPax Caddies. I really like these from an organizational standpoint. Read OCD.

    TOOLS; Basic cutting impliments. Multi-tool, folder, fixxed blade, camp saw & axe. Have to have a small Gatco diamond sharpener to keep all those blades sharp. I keep a shovel around for digging in and whacking mother****ers when the ammo runs out. One Etool for earth and rock digging. I also have a Voile Avalanche shovel for ecivating large amounts of snow. It has a snow saw stored in the handle but I doubt if I’d ever get to use it around here. When I opted for trekking poles a while back I was skeptical. Well now I’m a convert. They help with my balance and take tons off my back and legs. Other tools listed are basic items covered in everyone else’s kits. I do have several ways to procure food from the wild listed here as well.

    SIGNALING; For those times when I want found, picked up or rescued. Also good for signaling others in my party should we become separated. A handheld Launcher that stores multiple flares. Old standards, the signal mirror and whistle. I also carry a cut down chunk of VS17 panel and an ACR MS2000 military strobe light. Only high speed item here is the Adventure Light’s, VIPIR beacon.

    HYGIENE; Small zippered hanging kit bag, loaded. An MSR personal towel and travel TP all bundled into an Aloksak. Nice, neat, and complete. Won’t leak inside my pack either. Picked up a love of wet wipes while deployed. Don’t forget to follow up dry, nobody likes swamp-ass!

    WEAPONS; These are in levels as well, small to large. Non lethal options amount to OC Spray (mace,) and ASP collapsible baton. Firearms start with a Smith&Wesson snubby, 340PD with Laser Grips. Reload ammo on several Bianchi Speed Strips. This is my pocket/pouch gun. Many better options for my holster gun but I have time on the Beretta’s trigger and of course being the sidearm of the US Military I figure I can get spare parts easier over the long PAW haul. Assault Rifle is a Colt LE6920 (M4.) It has some accessories but nothing crazy and I am intimately familiar with all of them. One of them is sporting a couple layers of Krylon and it’s damn sexy! For straight up Zombie blasting my semiautomatic Benelli M4 has no peers. 8 rounds of whatever 12ga ammo you can get your dickbeaters on and it’s go time! Fast as you can pull the trigger you’ll be laying waste to the undead legions. Maintenance and cleaning of these weapons is made easier in the field via my KitMat, Otis Kit, eFECT tools. My cleaning chemicals are all made by SLIP2000. Hands down this is good shit, and the Carbon Killer has a great orange scent!

    Finally, on to the list………………!!!!!!!

    3 Minutes Without Air/Medical. (1st Aid/Trauma)
    3 Hours Without Protection. (Clothes/Shelter/Fire)
    3 Days Without Water. (5L To Start)
    3 Weeks Without Food. (25,000cal)
    3 Months Without Hope. (Knowledge/Experience/Skill/Faith)

    3 SEASON: Kifaru, ZXR, XTL Top, Multi Cam, 3800ci.
    2X, Kifaru, Hybrid Long Pockets, Multi Cam.
    2X, Kifaru, Liter Plus Pockets, Multi Cam.
    2X, Kifaru, Stash It Pockets, Multi Cam.
    Kifaru, E&E Pouch/Pack, Multi Cam, 1000ci.
    Kifaru, POD, Large, Multi Cam.
    2X,Kifaru, PullOut Sets, Coyote.
    3X, OR, Dry Sacks, HydroLite, Black.
    3X, Pack Mate, Roll Bags, Sport.
    EmDom, Strobe Pouch, Multi Cam.
    Tactical Tailor, E&E Pouch, Horizontal, Multi Cam.
    Web Dominators, All Straps, Coyote.
    OR, Pack Cover, HydroLite, Coyote.
    WINTER; Same Set up Only Kifaru EMR, XTL, OD, 7500ci.
    Same Pouches All In OD.
    OR, Pack Cover, HydroLite, Black.

    Adventure Medical Kits, UltraLight Pro, Stocked, (Augmented).
    Trauma Upgrades; 2X, 6” Izzy Dressings, Mobile Pad.
    2X, PriMed, Compressed Gauze.
    Nasopharyngeal Airway, 28F, Lube Packet.
    CAT Tourniquet, Black, Mil Issue.
    2X, HemCon Bandages, 4X4.
    Decompression Needle, 3.25”, 14Ga.
    2X HyFin Chest Seal.
    7.25” Trauma Shears, Black.
    QuickClot ACS+.
    Lactated Ringers, 1000ml OR 500ml, Giving Kit Complete.
    2X, CERA Lyte, Rehydration Salts, Lemon.
    Surgical Tape, Roll, White.
    Purell Hand Sanitizer, Bottle, Mil Packaging.
    Talon Gloves, 4 Pairs, Black.
    NARP, Combat Casualty Reference Card.
    Petzl, TacTikka, LED, headlamp, Black.
    2X, N95 Respirator Masks.
    4X Dermabond Vials.
    24X, Butterfly Closures.
    2X, Chemical Handwarmer Packs.
    Dental Floss, Waxed.
    Ben’s, 100 Deet, Small, Spray Bottle.
    Medicines 24X; 800mg, Motrins, Ibuprofen.
    2mg, Diamode, Loperamide.
    20mg, Prilosec, Omeprazole.
    5/500mg, Vicodin, Acetaminophen/Hydrocodone.
    10mg, Flexeril, Cyclobenzaprine.

    3 SEASON- BallCap, (BF, or LaRue Tactical).
    OR, PS50, Beanie, Black.
    Bandana, Cravat, “Drive-On Rag.”
    Silk Weight, Poly Pro, Top, Mil Issue, Black.
    2X, Under Armor, Loose Gear, Tee, Tan.
    GoLite, Stealth Shirt, Gore N2S, Olive.
    Patagonia, R2 Fleece, Jacket, Alpha Green.
    Patagonia, Sling Shot, Soft Shell Jacket, Alpha Green.
    Patagonia Rain Shadow Jacket, Alpha Green.
    Patagonia Stretch Micro Burst Pants, Alpha Green.
    2X, Under Armor, 9”, Boxer Jock, Black.
    6X, Wigwam, CoolMax, Hiking Socks, Tan.
    Danner, Acadia’s, Gore-Tex Black, Non Gore-Tex Tan.
    Mt.Hardwear, Transition Tights, Windstopper, Black.
    5.11 TacLite Pro Pants, Khaki.
    The Wilderness, Ti, Instructor Belt, CSM, Tan.
    Gloves, Leather Work/Fire, Mil Issue, Tan.
    WINTER-Under Armor, 9”, Boxer Jock, Black.
    Silk Weight Poly Pro Set, Mil Issue, Black.
    Exp. Weight Poly Pro Set, Mil Issue, Brown.
    Stretch Fleece Union Suit, Sleeveless, Mil Issue, Black.
    6X, Socks, Liner, Poly Pro, White.
    6X, Smartwool Mountaineering Sock, Gray.
    OR, 6X, Wigwam Below 40’s, Wool, Olive.
    Fleece Jacket, 300 Series, Mil Issue, Black.
    Fleece Bibs, 200 Series, Mil Issue, Black.
    ECWCS Parka (Gen I)/Pant (Gen II) Set, Mil Issue, TriColor Desert.
    OR, Patagonia DAS Parka, Alpha Green.
    Patagonia Micro Puff Pants, Alpha Green.
    Patagonia Rain Shadow Jacket, Alpha Green.
    Patagonia Stretch Micro Burst Pants, Alpha Green.
    Neck Gaiter, Fleece, Army Brown.
    OR “Beanie”, Windpro Fleece, Black.
    OR Gorilla Balaclava, Windstopper Fleece, Black.
    OR Guillotine Fingerless Glove, Windstopper Fleece, Black.
    OR Gripper Glove, Windstopper Fleece, Black.
    OR Modular Mittens, Gore-Tex, Double Fleece Liner, Black.
    OR Gaiters, Exp Crocs, Gore-Tex, Black.
    Gloves, Leather Work/Fire, Mil Issue, Tan.
    ESS, NVG Goggles, Tan, Mil Issue.
    3X, Chemical Handwarmer Packs.
    Sorel, Conquest Boots, -40F, Black.

    Hennessy Hammock, Survivor, Asym, Camo.
    OR, Integral Designs SilTarp II, (8X10), Olive, 10 Ti Pegs, (All Seasons.)
    OR, Integral Designs Exp. Unishelter, Woodland, 4 Ti Pegs, (Add In Winter/Ext Cold Weather.)
    ProForce Combo Mossi Net, Olive, (Spring/Summer Only.)
    Individual Protection Kit, Ground Sheet, Cut Down, 72X25”, Olive.
    50’ Seven Strand 550 Paracord, Olive.

    SUMMER- PAD: Ridge Rest, Regular, 20X72X.625”, Green/Gray
    OR, ThermaRest ProLite, Small/Short, 20X47X1”, Orange.
    BAG: Kifaru Woobie, AMK’s Thermo-Lite 2 Bivy.
    OR, Wiggy’s FTRSS Overbag, 35F, Black.
    OR, Snugpak, Softie 3 Merlin, 41F, OD/Tan.
    WINTER- PAD: ThermaRest Luxury Camp, Regular, 20X72X2.5”, Blue.
    AND, Mil Issue Closed Cell Puss Pad, Cut Down, 23X72X3/8”, Gray.
    BAG: Wiggy’s Ultima Thule, FTRSS, -60F, Black on Black.

    3X Bic, Disposable Lighters.
    Gerber, Strike Force, W/ 1 Tinder Cube.
    Spark-Lite, 8X Tinder Quick Tabs, Olive.
    Magnesium Block, W/ Embedded Striker.
    NATO, Lifeboat Matches, Bottle.
    Fresnel Lens, Card.
    2X, Oleo Stearin, Edible Survival Candles, 10Hr Burn Each.

    STOWAGE- Camelbak HotShot, 3L, Olive.
    2X, Nalgene Widemouth Bottles, 32oz.
    2X, The North Face, Bottle Parkas, Black. (Winter Only.)
    2X, Nalgene, Flex Cantene, Wide Mouth. 96oz. (ZXR Slot Pockets.)
    MSR Dromedary Bag, 6L, Black.
    TREATMENT- MSR Miox Pen, Access Kit, Mil Packaging.
    Katadyn Hiker Pro Micro Filter, Pre Filter, Carbon Cartridge.
    20X, AuqaMira Tablets, Mil Packaging.
    Coffee Filters, Bandana.

    FOOD: (Minimum 3500Cal Per Day, Plus Reserve!)
    1X, Mainstay, 3600 Food Ration, 3600cal.
    6X, Mountain House, Pro-Pak, 1 Serving, Meals, Various, 500cal Each.
    3X, Tyson, Chicken Breast, Chunk, Pouch, 245cal Each.
    3X, StarKist, Albacore, White Tuna, Pouch, 140cal Each.
    2X, Spam, Bacon, 12oz Can, 1080cal Each.
    6X, Ramen Noodles, Picante Chicken.
    1X, Velveeta, Shells & Cheese, 1080cal Each.
    4X, Clif, Builder Bars, Chocolate, 270cal Each.
    4X, Nature Valley, Sweet-n-Salty, Peanut, Bar, 170cal Each.
    12X, Jalapeno Cheese Spread, Packet, MRE, 170cal Each.
    12X, Cheese W/Bacon Spread, Packet, MRE, 180cal Each.
    12X, Peanut Butter Spread, Packet, MRE, 260cal Each.
    6X, Chocolate Dairy Shake, Pouch, MRE, 410cal Each.
    6X, Strawberry Dairy Shake, Pouch, MRE, 410cal Each.
    10X, Crystal Light, Immunity, Pommegranet/Cherry, Packets.
    10X, Crystal Light, Hydration, Berry, Packets.
    10X, Crystal Light, Hunger Satisfaction, Strawberry/Banana, Packets.
    8X, ButterFinger, Hot Cocoa, Packets, 120cal Each.
    Multi-Spice Shaker, 5, Black Pepper, Salt, Garlic Powder, Curry Powder, Wing Dust.
    20X, Sedona Trading Co, Southwest Gourmet Capsules.
    24X, Centrum Performance, MultiVitamin, Tablets, Bottle.
    (Approx. 25,000cal, Total.)

    Optimus Nova, MultiFuel, Stove, 2X 0.6L Fuel Bottles, WindScreen.
    OR, JetBoil, PCS, Black, 3X 100g Fuel Cartridges, Guyot Microbites Utensils (On Cozy).
    OR, MSR, Stowaway Pot, Stainless, 1.1L.
    INSIDE- Esbit Stove, 15X Esbit Fuel Tabs.
    Bic Lighter, Bottle Lifeboat Matches.
    SnowPeak, Ti Spoork, P38 Can Opener.
    Heavy Duty, Aluminum Foil, (Windscreen).
    Scrubby Sponge, 1oz Dish Soap.
    Bounty, Towel, Travel Roll.
    OR, SnowPeak, MiniSolo Ti, Mesh Bag.
    INSIDE- Esbit Stove, 15X Esbit Fuel Tabs.
    Bic Lighter, Bottle Lifeboat Matches.
    SnowPeak, Ti Spoork, P38 Can Opener.
    Heavy Duty, Aluminum Foil, (WindScreen).
    Scrubby Sponge, 1oz Dish Soap.
    Bounty, Towel, Travel Roll.
    Guyot, Squishy Bowl, Slate.
    OR, GSI, Fairshare Mug, Green.
    OR, Nesters, Space Saver Cup, (Bottom Of 32oz Nalgene.)
    OR, Stanley, Outdoor, 20oz Food Jar. (Winter Only).
    Guyot Designs, MealGear Utensils, Green.
    OR, GSI, Tekk Utensils, Lexan, Blue.

    Garmin, Rino 130, GPS.
    GI Compass, Tritium, Mil Issue.
    Silva, 4B NATO, Tritium, Mil Issue.
    Suunto, M9, Wrist Compass.
    4X, NATO 1605, Survival Compass, Francis Barker Model.
    AO Maps, Aloksaks, Spec-Ops M/D Cell, (Mapcase), Olive.
    Pens/Markers/Pencils, RIR Notebook.


    Petzl TacTikka XP, Tan
    Petzl E-lite, or Petzl TacTikka, Camo.
    Surefire, E1E, Exec Elite.
    Surefire, 6P, LED Defender.
    Guyot Design, Firefly, LED, Bottle Lid.

    Garmin, Rino 130, GPS, FRS-GMRS Radio, Elec Compass, Altimeter, NOAA, Gray.
    Grundig, Porshe Design, AM/FM/SW1/SW2, Alarm, SW Chart.
    BlackBerry, Storm, Smart Phone, Extra Battery, Solar Charger.

    Brunton Solar Roll 14, Various Adapters. (Planned Extended Outings, Winter Only.)
    OR, Solio, Solar Panel, TAD Gear Edition, iPOD/Cell Phone Adapters, Black. (Holds Charge Also.)
    PowerPax Caddy, 8-AA Batt., Tan.
    PowerPax Caddy, 8-AAA Batt., Tan.
    PowerPax Caddy, 8-CR123 Batt., Tan.
    OR, PowerPax A9 Caddy, 4AAA, 8AA, 1-9V, Green.

    Leatherman Multitool, Wave, Black.
    Emerson CQC7, Serrated, Limited Edition, Green.
    Gerber LMF II, Infantry Knife, Tan.
    OR, Emerson/Nealy, Timberline, Spec War, Knife.
    Gerber Gator Saw I.
    Gerber Sport Axe.
    Gatco, TriSeps Sharpener, Diamond.
    E-Tool, Mil Issue, Black.
    Voile T6 Avalanche Shovel, Snow Saw in Handle. (Winter Only)
    3X, Chemical Handwarmer Packs.
    Leki Trekking Poles, Super Makalu, Core-Tec, PA, AntiShock. (Year Round)
    Otter Sled II, Small (54X26X10”), Black, W/Cover, (Used as My Pulk.)
    2X Locking Carabiners. (On Outside Of Pack.)
    Nalgene Bottle, 32oz, Wide Mouth, Firefly Yellow. (PISS BOTTLE ONLY, WINTER ONLY)
    100MPH Tape, Roll, Olive/Tan.
    50’ Seven Strand, 550 Para Cord, Olive/Tan.
    Emergency Fishing Kit, Gill Net, Speed Hook Mil Version.
    50’ Snare Wire, Soft Brass, 24ga./Thompson Survival Snare Set.
    M24, 7X28, Binoculars, Ranging Reticle, Mil Issue.
    Spare Eyeglasses, Hard Case, Micro Cloth, Retention Band.
    Watch, Casio Gshock, Tough Solar.

    Aerial Flares, 2 Red, 2 Green, Hand Launcher.
    Star Flash, Signal Mirror, 3X5.
    Storm, Safety Whistle, Black.
    VS-17 Panel, Cut Down.
    ACR MS2000 Strobe, Vis/IR, Mil Issue.
    Adventure Lights, VIPIR, Light (IFF).
    4X, Cyalume, ChemLights, 12hr, Green.

    OR, Toiletry Kit, Hanging Bag, Small, Black.
    CONTENTS; Small Mirror.
    Crest Total Care Paste, Travel.
    Toothbrush, Folding, Travel.
    Head&Shoulders Classic Clean, Travel.
    Neutragena, Razor Defense Gel, Travel.
    Gillette Mach 3Turbo, 4X Blades.
    Gold Bond Powder, Regular, Travel.
    Johnson & Johnson, Baby Oil, Travel.
    Dr Bronners, Liquid Soap, Peppermint, 8oz, Bottle.
    Dermatone, Lip Balm, 30spf, Stick.
    Dermatone, Skin Protector, 30spf, Tin.
    8X, Breathe Right Strips.
    4X, Zeiss, Lens Cloths.
    2X, Tide, Liquid Clothes Detergent, Sink Packs.
    4X, Purell, Hand Sanitizer, Wipes.
    4X, Oral B, Brush Ups.
    Meds (Small Vial): Ibuprofen
    MSR Packtowel Personal, Tan.
    2X, Charmin Travel Rolls, TP.
    Charmin, Roll, TP, Vaccum Packed.
    35X,Wet Ones, Big Ones, Citrus.

    BOB, DEFENSE/WEAPONS: (If Bugging From Home.)
    Pack/Pouch Gun, S&W, Airweight, 340PD, HiViz Sight, Crimson Trace Laser Grip, 5 Shot.
    4X, Bianchi Speed Strips, (20rds), 38Sp+P, or 357Mag.
    First Defense, OC Spray, Mk4, 3oz, 20X 1 Second Bursts.
    Beretta, 92FS, Trijicon Night Sights, Hogue Wrap Around Grip.
    Safariland, 6004 Leg Holster, Black, Kryloned Tan, Lanyard.
    ASP, Baton, 16”. (Mounts On Safariland 6004 Holster.)
    3X, Beretta Magazines, 15rds, 9mm.
    Colt, LE6920, 5.56mm, Scope, BiPod, FVG, Omega Rail System, Flashlight, BFG Redi-Mod, Sling.
    8X, Pmags, 30rds, FDE, Windowed, Mag Plate, Grip Pads.
    Benelli, M4/M1014, 12ga., Scope, Extended Mag, Sling.
    12ga. 52rd Bandoleer.
    AMMO- 25X, 38SP+P, 129gr, Federal, Hydra Shok .
    90X, 9mm, 124gr, Federal, Hydra Shok.
    240X, 5.56mm, 62gr, LC M855, FMJ, Penetrator.
    45X, 12ga, 00Buck, 9 Pellet, Federal, Tactical, Full Power, Flight Control Wad.
    15X, 12ga, HP Rifled Slug, Federal, Tactical, Reduced Recoil

    WEAPON MAINTENANCE; EmDom KITMAT, Multi Cam, Stocked.
    Gerber/Otis, Tool, Cleaning Kit, Black.
    BCM SOPMOD Bolt Upgrade Kit.
    Gerber, eFECT Tool, Black.
    Sentry Solutions, Marine, Tuff Cloth.
    SLIP2000, 2oz Each, EWL, Carbon Killer, 725Cleaner/Degreaser

    PAPERWORK I use lists from various sources to make sure I’ve covered all my bases. Way too many to list here. Already covered indepth in many threads.
    Last edited by Mags; 05-01-2009, 03:24 AM.
    Well, for me, the action is the juice.....I'm in.

  • #2
    kick ass setup man! Nice post

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    • #3
      Nice...thanks for giving me some ideas I didn't have.


      • #4
        Cute gf btw! :)

        Although any gf that looks good in camo colors is cute to me haha

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        • #5
          I usually go to bed around 10pm. I stayed up until midnight reading all of this. I was drooling in my sheets and figured it was time to put out the lights. Whew. That issome getup!
          Thanks for sharing! even tho you kept me up late.
          Your opponet got stronger today, did you?
          {{unswydd-Of One Purpose}}


          • #6
            It is quite obvious you have put a lot of thought, planning and effort into your BOB(s)! If you were giving advice to someone just starting out, what specific items would you say to procure first, according to the Rule of 3s? You did an awesome job!!

            Thanks for sharing!


            • #7

              I'd say aquirring training and knowledge is first. Whether it's from the Boy Scouts, FEMA, Civil Air Patrol, Military, Red Cross, or local groups and programs knowledge is the key. Many courses can be found for free with a little effort. Any schmuck with a couple of bucks can buy some cool-guy gear. Without the Knowledge, skill, and experience he'd prolly end up deader'en shit anyway. That's cool though, we can swing by and "relieve" him of all that cool-guy gear. Old Tshirt saying, "I if you die first, we're splitting up your gear!"

              Many many people seem carry too much gear in their GHB's and BOB's. They also don't seem to mind trusting their life and loved ones lives on the gear that they have never even tried or used before. Shiney new gear kills me. Learn what you need. Get what you need for your most likely emergency senario's. Then get out and train with it. I can not tell you enough the value of "shake-down" hikes and outings.

              I use the "Rule of 3's" to help prioritize my needs.
              3 Minutes Without Air/Medical. (1st Aid/Trauma)
              3 Hours Without Protection. (Clothes/Shelter/Fire)
              3 Days Without Water.
              3 Weeks Without Food.
              3 Months Without Hope. (Knowledge/Experience/Skill/Faith)

              If you have no first aid/CPR training I'd seek out some basic first aid/CPR courses in your area and continue on after you have the basics. I got into first aid and things medical in the military. I never wanted one of my guy's to die because I didn't know what to do. Same applies to loved ones of course. (Having the knowldge, training and experience paid off big time while in Iraq.) You need to have the basic's down to the point where it doesn't matter the environment or situation you can still apply them correctly. Your going to need first aid gear. Commercial kits are a start. Make sure your kit is only stocked to your level of training. No reason to be wasting space and carrying gear you can't use. If you want to stock medical equipment beyond your level of training leave it with your stores back at your "bug-in-location" or "bug-out-location."

              Depending on the weather you could be in trouble of exposure real quick. Your first level of protection from the elements would be your clothing. SENARIO;You leave your cell, jump in your car in winter to run to the office after hours wearing just your sweats and slippers. You'll only be a few minutes right..........Then your car slides off the road and you have to walk a ways to get help. If you had a vehicle cold weather kit in your car it would only take an extra minute or two to donn your cold weather clothing and winter boots. Otherwise, that easily, you could be in a serious situation.
              Last edited by Mags; 05-04-2009, 11:05 AM.
              Well, for me, the action is the juice.....I'm in.


              • #8
                This is by far the best post on this website ever. You have certainly reached the goal that the rest of us are still trying to reach. Just out of curiosity, how long did it take you to acquire all of this and how much would you estimate that you have invested. Thanks for the excellent info. I plan on printing this and using it as a guide line to complete my preps. I think that you are the official survival guru of the site.
                The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson


                • #9
                  Originally posted by beebopcop View Post
                  This is by far the best post on this website ever. You have certainly reached the goal that the rest of us are still trying to reach. Just out of curiosity, how long did it take you to acquire all of this and how much would you estimate that you have invested. Thanks for the excellent info. I plan on printing this and using it as a guide line to complete my preps. I think that you are the official survival guru of the site.
                  I agree BBC! Mags reply was coherent, well thought out and not in the least bit condescending and I really appreciated that! :)


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lostinoz View Post
                    I agree BBC! Mags reply was coherent, well thought out and not in the least bit condescending and I really appreciated that! :)
                    You're right and to me that makes all the difference
                    The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson


                    • #11
                      Aw shucks ma'am.................:o

                      I promise I'm here to learn and help others. As stated I have wasted a ton o' cash on crap gear. In today's economy where every dollar counts if I can help anybody to steer clear of crap gear I'm all for that! The little knowledge I've gained over the years is not meant to be hoarded. Besides, I love to teach....

                      BBCop, I've been doing this for many years. None of my gear was aquired overnight. Far as money goes..........I can't even begin to even guess at a number. If I did I'd put it at 'bout One Brazillion Dollars!..................
                      Last edited by Mags; 05-05-2009, 10:08 AM.
                      Well, for me, the action is the juice.....I'm in.


                      • #12
                        Tried a search but wanted to add this into my BOB thread. The TAD Gear "Life Capsule" that I have is an older generation in black. It's made of machined aluminium and both compartments are sealed waterproof with o-ring gaskets. There have been several updated versions but they are all about the same. This is an item that is on my person any time I go into the woods. Whether on a day hike or longer outing. I wear it either around my neck or my prefered method is to loop the 550 cord through my belt loops and tuck the capsule into my right front pants pocket.

                        One end has a shallow compartment that fits the FB1605 Nato Survival Compass, (Francis Barker SAS Survival Compass.) There was just a smidge of wiggle so I stuck a piece of 90mph tape on the side of the compass and now it fits snug as a bug. No rattling at all. I routinely check the compass's accuracy against my other compasses. I have total faith in the button compass carried this way for basic direction.

                        The other end access's the entire hollow tube. Inside that compartment I keep an OD "Spark Lite" fire starter and 4 "Tinder Quick" tabs. In good conditions I can start multiple fires from one Tinder Quick tab.

                        This setup gives me direction and fire in a small, secure, easy to carry package. Nifty little doo-dad although a bit pricey.
                        Well, for me, the action is the juice.....I'm in.


                        • #13
                          (Written up after hearing that several others have had LMF Sporks break fork tines or completely in half during outings. My Guyot Designs gear has yet to fail me.)

                          While I realize that when in a dire situation I'd be happy just to have some supplies to use like the LMF Spork. (The one that is very popular here.) I can't help but notice what a PIA it is for me to really prepare and cook a meal with this piece of kit. If it's oatmeal every meal fine, even MH ProPaks ok. (Although I hate getting grub all over my knuckles.) Don't get me wrong, I have several and even bought them as give aways for friends. They will and do work fine in a pinch, but........................................

                          For real prep work and cooking I'll suck up the 14gram weight difference and go with the Guyot Designs MicroBites. This 22gram set is far more robust than the LMF Spork. The LMF offering has a spoon end and a fork end. I see the serrations on the end fork tine for cutting. Anybody try that for cutting meat or cheese? Shitty at best. I know, I know, you have a pocket knife and multitool with blades all over them. Why get it out, get food slop all over it, maybe even lay it down and loose it since you can't put it back in your pocket or sheath with food slop all over it.

                          The Microbites set gives you the ability to perform 5 functions and all of them pretty well. They are, spoon, fork, knife, spatula, and spreader. I have used both my Guyot Designs (fullsize) Utensils and Microbites in all 5 capacities many times and have never been let down. Whether your using the serrated edge or the smooth side you can really cut with the knife function. Hard cheese, pepperoni, summer sausage, veggies, fruits, even used the serrated edge to (hack) butterfly some semifrozen elk steaks. Flipped meat on the grill and fritters on the griddle, stirred cups, mugs, pots and bowls all with the spatula piece. The speader works great whether it's cream cheese, peanut butter even pizza sauce.

                          LMF is now offering bigger versions of their spork. If you need bigger go with the Guyot Designs Utensils. These larger pieces work really well with the Jetboil and Reactor stoves. The longer handles reach all the way down to the bottom of taller cook kits like the Snow Peak Mini-Solo and GSI NForm Soloist pots. They also keep your knuckles clean while eating meals from pouches and bags to! The Microbites work well with either the USGI canteen cup or the Crusader Cook Kit cups. They nest together securely, even have holes for lanyards or biners!! Come on it's a no brainer..............

                          Point is, for the same pack space and damn near the same weight why not have a robust piece of kit that does several things well and won't let you down in the PAW vs a flimsy piece that performs marginal at best?!

                          (LMF Spork is OD green utensil in the front middle of the last picture.)
                          Last edited by Mags; 05-06-2009, 01:37 PM.
                          Well, for me, the action is the juice.....I'm in.


                          • #14
                            'elloooo.........Comments not only welcomed but encouraged.........:)
                            Well, for me, the action is the juice.....I'm in.


                            • #15
                              I'm curious to know the estamated cost would be also.... and very well done! Excellent post.... gotta print this one still learning ll kinds of new things! thanks!