bow and arrows

[Lil Bear]

I see a lot of guns and ammo being added to packs and home storage, but have yet to hear of anyone mention bows and arrows. I have been looking for one for hunting and just thought of its quiet use for survival purposes. Does anyone else have a bow they would use for survival? I mean they are talking about taxing our guns and ammo, but have heard nothing about bows and arrows. What do you all think?

[Vicious Ignernt]

I see a lot of guns and ammo being added to packs and home storage, but have yet to hear of anyone mention bows and arrows. I have been looking for one for hunting and just thought of its quiet use for survival purposes. Does anyone else have a bow they would use for survival? I mean they are talking about taxing our guns and ammo, but have heard nothing about bows and arrows. What do you all think?

Bows and Arrows will be taxed as well, but that's much further down the to-do list of liberals.

I've had my own to-do list (No, Not like a Liberal's!) for my own S&P, and purchasing a couple of kits of B & A have been on there for a long time. One kit for the home, one for my remote cache. Just haven't had the cash or priority to get it together. Though with the economic hard times, there will probably be some good deals on used compund bows.

I did a little archery when I was younger, Boy Scout type stuff, mostly target shooting, a little hunting for squirrel and rabbit, but nothing in the past 30 years.

Would you, Lil Bear, or another X'er, please post their idea of a good list of a B & A kit? May I suggest one that is bare bones, bottom dollar, and very economical? Also, I know of the brand names Bear and Pearson, but not much else. Any recommendations would be helpful.

I'm with ya' Lil Bear, I think a bow and arrow would be a good thing to have. A crossbow, not so much. :eek:

But, then again, I'm ignernt.

[Lil Bear]

You can get some bare bone kits from Basspro or Cabelas. During deer season wal-mart carries some decent lowend bows. Gander mountain has several low end brands that are fairly decent. Make sure its at least a 45-50 lb pull.

I have a very old Pearson compound, but its for ground hunting only. The axle to axle length is so long that its a B*tch to shoot while in a tree. There fore, I am looking to purchase a newer style bow.

[skeezit]

Hi bear Me and the wife shoot 3d alot. I have always had in mined to have a ba with me. Also a pellet gun quit to.

[Lil Bear]

Those new Gamo pellet guns are pretty neat. Not sure how easy it would be to get the Co2 during a major crisis.

[skeezit]

The one I've got is a Sheriden 177. it's as good as 22 on small game. No co2 needed 3 or 4 pumps it's ready to go.

[Lil Bear]

Some of those things have a high poundage pump. There was a article I read that stated one of the Gamo's had at least a 45lb pump. That would put a hurting on certain small game.

[Omegaman]

I just got my new Hoyt Alpha Max and this bow like my others before it shall put food on the table. With a bow you can take large or small game with no noise. I have taken turkey,geese, White tail, Hogs, rabbits, coyotes, Carp, shark and many others. I try to do all of my hunting with a bow, my gun is my fall back. I also own a recurve that in bad times I can make my own strings and arrows for and I did take a class on making a long bow just in case. I also own a flintlock for just in case, I could make crude gun powder and cast my own round balls for it since I have the molds all of this just in case every thing else runs low or out.

[denvernative321]

bow

bows are great they are light to carry, very quite, deadly, and accurate. you cant get arrows out as fast as a gun but good if you need to be quiet.

[SandHillsHillbilly]

I have been considering a crossbow as a third line weapon. It would make an excellent SILENT hunting weapon. I know some states do not allow them to hunt with or own, but in a time with an infrastucture breakdown that would be the least of anyones worries.

[skeezit]

II think most will go along with this. The crossbow is not all that you"d think it to be. Your better off with a compound !

[Omegaman]

When we show people new crossbows they are amazed by how heavy they are and how much noise they make:confused:. Most people watch to many movies in which the good guy takes out bad guys over 100 yards away with no noise with a crossbow:rolleyes:. Most crossbows shoot flat out to 35-40 yards after that because crossbow bolts do not have a lot of mass ( 400-500 grains ) they expend almost all of their kinetic energy making them short range killers but that being said it would be nice to have one as one more tool to put food on the table during bad times. I would go with my compound bow or recurve first butin bad times there is no real learning curve with a crossbow, cock it , load it , look through the scope and shoot it were with a bow you need to put in a lot of time with them to be come effective with them.

[Lil Bear]

I agree with you omegaman. I looked at a Barnett crossbow the other day and it weigh a good 8-9 pounds. It shot arrows at 375 fps. I am still shopping around for a bow. Those things have gotten pretty expensive.

[Bavarian]

One thing you may want to consider is learning how to make a bow and arrows. It can be done in a day or two and if you are without a weapon or want to hunt quietly, all you really need can be found in the woods. Having some paracord etc. is nice but you can use other materials such as gut for a string.

There are several webb sites that deal w/primitive bows and other weapons. Anyone can learn and a long bow will deffinitely take most N. American game. There are other sites that deal w/flint knapping etc. for arrowheads and knives. Plus, it's a confidence builder and is a lot of fun.

[shadowwalker]

I have made a few Self Bows and have two compounds and my wife has a crossbow. I have the same size and weight arrows for them. I shoot 32" for my compounds and 16" for her crossbow, so I can just cut mine in half if needed. We got about 30 already made arrows for each and enough stock to make another 50 arrows of my size. Have nocks,various points,feathers plus extra for them. I get them at wallmart after season or off ebay. I picked up one of those feather clamps for the arrows at a garage sale for almost nothing. For the glue, I have the old time glue that has been used for wood shaft arrows since the 1930's. And as always I can make it out of boiling sinue. This dosn't stay on the aluminum arrows as good but hey, it'll work.
I have wood drying for self bows and it will keep for years and years. I also have flintknapping tools and can do it for the arrows. I know where there is two rose bush areas that do fairly well for arrows. I can make them also out of other wild plants here. I have flint, sinue natural and synthetic, feathers, wood. It takes awhile to make all needed for a bow and arrows but hey. If times are tough. I probably wouldn't have the satelite paid up anyway.