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  • FrogTacos
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    Im just one exit down from Lake Worth. We live off of Old Decatur.

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  • Recently_Awoken
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    FrogTacos (great name BTW :)

    Thanks for the response and advice. And howdy neighbor!! :)
    I worked for about a year or so on the west side of Ft. Worth (near Lake Worth).
    Nice to hear from you :)

    RA

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  • Recently_Awoken
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    UPDATE:
    For all the responses, ideas, feedback, etc... Thanks!!! I've read, considered, and learned a lot from them all. Thank you!

    My short term stop-gap food stock I settled on...
    In addition to our small canned and boxed food stores, I made a bulk purchase of Mountain House #10 cans (on sale w/free shipping)

    Tried some small pouches of their food, made the family take a bite, and all the samples were well received. Conservatively speaking, this should extend our food another 6 months, and that's eating very well.

    Why I went with freeze dried foods... it's a quick fix, simple to prepare, pretty good taste, and I can store and forget it (for now - no immediate rotation concerns). I was impressed with the sample pouches I bought... just boil a little water, pour in, let set for 10 minutes, and eat. It ain't home cooked food, but it really wasn't bad at all. This wasn't cheap and set my land purchase back multiple moons. When I hit the "buy" button, I sort sat stunned for a little while afterwards (I don't spend 2K on a whim). The next morning... I was at peace with my decision. I procurred food for my family with an expiration date of 2035! I was gonna purchase land first, but it just didn't make sense. If something happened, I'd have empty acres and not enough to eat. I hope I made the right decision.

    My next priority is water procurement and storage (at home - for now), and I'll make another post for that. I hope I can get excellent feedback there, like I did here.

    I hope this thread is not dead. The freeze dried option is only my quick fix. Wheat, corn, and other food stuffs in a 5 gal packaging system have me planning for an extended stocking program. After that, seeds and preparations for growing for the long haul. I hope I'm doing this in the right order. Guess it comes down to planning and faith. Guys, gals, martians, four legged fuzzies... please share more. What are you doing for food preparation, long term, short term?

    NOTE: if you are considering this... be aware, it will arrive via freight... a half pallete... 18 wheeler at the front door :( If you do a similar purchase, I'd recommend you make arrangements to pick up at the shipping drop ship location. Would be a lower key operation.

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  • FrogTacos
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    Recent -
    Welcome to the colony, neighbor. I am also fairly new to preping and have picked up some great advice along the way, Im sure you will as well. The first thing I recommend when it comes to storing food - stock what you eat, and eat what you stock. I have just started buying my stock, mostly pinto beans, rice, and canned vegetables so far. I ordered some powdered milk, powdered eggs, powdered cheese, and freeze dried fruits from Honeyvillegrain.com - hasnt gotten here yet but should be along any day now. Their prices arent horrible, shipping is currently $4.49 for the entire order, and I found an online coupon that saved me 10%. The good thing about the powdered foods is they have a very long shelf life.

    My hubby grew up in east Tennessee - raised on beans and cornbread so eating pinto beans isnt out of the ordinary for us. I have a couple different ways of cooking them if you havent done it before. He is also an electrical guru so if you have electrical questions Im sure he could get them answered for you. I have a Sams Club membership if you dont, wouldnt mind meeting up and letting you take advantage of it. There is a Sams really close to where I live, just off of the 820 at the Rufe Snow exit. Anyway, holler if you have any questions.

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  • slowz1k
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    Originally posted by tarheelsman71 View Post
    My group has done the research and we are now using 5 Gal food grade buckets with Gamma Lids for our food storage. But we are taking a differeent approach to it. We are setting up each 5 gal container to have a little of everything in it. This way you are not opening up a 50 lbs bag of rice to make 5 lbs of rice. Essentially we have purchased an indutrial grade vaccum sealer and put most everything into 3 lbs bags. 3lbs of flour, 3 lbs bisquick, 3 lbs of pasta, 3 lbs of rice, 1 lb bags of salt and sugar. 3lbs of red wheat, container of peanut butter, hard candies. This way we will have essentially meal sized packaging. We vary the different types of meal types, and mark the containers with different colored lids. We have some that are setup for spaghetti type meals, chili type meals. Now none of us live at our retreat, and we are 90 miles from the retreat. So if we had to hoof it because of an EMP, we got a storage unit (with AC and Heat)in the nearby town 6 miles away from the retreat site. We have stored over 20 of these containers at the retreat and plan to have about 80 of the cans at the storage unit. We also have extra gardening tools and toilet paper in the storage unit. If you do not have a "retreat" planned out, it wouldnt be a bad idea to determine your route and direction of where you plan to bugout and find a storage unit along the way to store some stuff. When you get a known bugout location then you can just move your stuff again. Good luck.

    I could be wrong, and usually am.... but this sounds like a very good idea.

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  • tarheelsman71
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    My group has done the research and we are now using 5 Gal food grade buckets with Gamma Lids for our food storage. But we are taking a differeent approach to it. We are setting up each 5 gal container to have a little of everything in it. This way you are not opening up a 50 lbs bag of rice to make 5 lbs of rice. Essentially we have purchased an indutrial grade vaccum sealer and put most everything into 3 lbs bags. 3lbs of flour, 3 lbs bisquick, 3 lbs of pasta, 3 lbs of rice, 1 lb bags of salt and sugar. 3lbs of red wheat, container of peanut butter, hard candies. This way we will have essentially meal sized packaging. We vary the different types of meal types, and mark the containers with different colored lids. We have some that are setup for spaghetti type meals, chili type meals. Now none of us live at our retreat, and we are 90 miles from the retreat. So if we had to hoof it because of an EMP, we got a storage unit (with AC and Heat)in the nearby town 6 miles away from the retreat site. We have stored over 20 of these containers at the retreat and plan to have about 80 of the cans at the storage unit. We also have extra gardening tools and toilet paper in the storage unit. If you do not have a "retreat" planned out, it wouldnt be a bad idea to determine your route and direction of where you plan to bugout and find a storage unit along the way to store some stuff. When you get a known bugout location then you can just move your stuff again. Good luck.

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  • cbprice797
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    Yea RA that is the way to store BULK items. If using a mylar bag you just need to get a 5 gallon bucket. Put the wheat, corn whatever inside and then put a couple of oxygen absorbers on top. The oxygen absorbers will keep any pests from hatching since they need oxygen for doing this. Then seal up the mylar bag and pop the lid on, make sure the mylar bag is completely inside the bucket or else you will ruin the integrity of the bag. Now it is not an absolute must to use a mylar bag if you are using a food grade bucket. Just put the stuff in the bucket throw in the absorbers and pop omn the lid. As the absorbers take in the oxygen there might be a little collapsing of the bucket sides vut this wont hurt it or the food. As for there being no Food Lion in your area any chain grocery store that has a bakery(not WalMart, they reccycle theirs), local restaraunts will have them if you just ask around. Now if you are gonna use a mylar bag you don't need to use a food grade bucket. Just go to Home Depot and get their oprange 5 gallon bucket for 1.98 and theorange lid for .98 and use them if you run out of ones from the stores and such.

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  • Recently_Awoken
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    prkchp76,

    Thanks man,

    Got the Ramen Noodle covered (in spades :)

    Tools are covered as well.

    The camping gear... that's next. Great ideas! Thanks!!

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  • Recently_Awoken
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    kenno,

    Interesting research on the packaging aspect. When I go packing, I'll definitely keep your experience in mind. I read that bucket, then mylar bag, then dry ice, then paper layer, then wheat, then silica pack, then let condesation from bottom of bucket fade (hour or two), then seal, is a good combination for wheat storage (in bucket and mylar bag).

    Thanks. Your lessons learned are GREATLY appreciated.

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  • Recently_Awoken
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    cbprice797,

    EXCELLENT game plan. I've gleaned a ton of tips from your post! Expiration dates on canned foods (yes, I'm new), I had no idea. And your proportioning techniques when packing... great strategy to reducing risk of spoilage!

    Food Lion... I went to school in Georgia... we don't have Food Lion out this way... been 20 years since I've wrassled the Lion :)

    Thanks again. I'm sure I'll have more questioned soon! Thanks!!!!!!!

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  • cbprice797
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    Hey RA I noticed that you mentionednearly reaching the limit of the canned food due to the expiration date. No need to worry over that. canned goods will remain edible DECADES after the expiration date posted on the can. THe only time that ypou do not eat an expired can of food is when the vacuum seal has popped, just push the top down if it moves don't eat. They took food canned in jars from a sunken river boat that went done in like the 1880's and the food was still edible. Don't worry over canned goods going bad.

    If you got a Sam's Club or some other wholesale warehouse join it. I recently bought 50lbs of flour( both kinds),corn meal, cane sugar, white rice, salt( iodized and non-iodized), that is 50lbs of each of those. Then I also got 2 containers of honey 80oz each(160 total), 2 boxes of powdered milk( each box makes 5 gallons). I haven't tried it yet but i got this condensed tea that is presweetened and one container I think makes 25 gallons. Also bought 4 cans of Crisco shortening( it will remain good for up to 4 years if unopened, this is according to the makers tehmselves.) All of this was $128 and some change. Food Lion had a sale on their dry beans the previous week and I bought about 75lbs of various beans, these were $110 or so if I remember correctly

    I took it home and vacuum sealed it all up into one pound packs and packed it into 5 gallon buckets. The dry goods had some of each in every bucket sealed. Four oc the buckets had Crisco. I sterilized a bunch of pint jars and filled with honey and put them in the buckets as well. All this food was under 250 bucks and the buckets were free from the Food lion bakery. With buckets having mixed contents like this if you have to grab some and run you have a mixture of stuff. This is also good for not haing to risk ruining all the flour. cornmeal, etc when you start using it you can only lose the individual vacuum packed bag from the opened bucket.
    Last edited by cbprice797; 02-05-2010, 12:08 AM.

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  • prkchp76
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    hey sorry on the spelling was tired and fighting to stay awake

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  • Recently_Awoken
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    Jason_Tx,

    Just a few miles East of you. Not far at all. Howdy neighbor!

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  • Jason_Tx
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    Recently_Awaken

    Sounds like your not doing to bad for starters, keep it up

    When you say "North Texas" are you talking Panhandle or North Central (ie around DFW / Decateur / Wichita Falls ect.. ) ?

    I'm in Denton myself

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  • kenno
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    I stored rice and beans in mylar bags and 5 gallon buckets with gamma lids in 1999, no O2 absorbers or nitrogen, just put the goods in the deep freeze for several weeks and ate it 10 years later. It wasn't fresh but it was edible. I strongly recomend a pressure cooker to speed cooking times and conserve fuel.

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