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    anybody have super pails in their food storage? Did you purchase the items already pre-packaged in the pails, or did you get pails, mylar bags, oxygen absorbers and fill them yourself?
    "Be Excellent to Each Other"

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    I have both ones I put together, and pre-packed grains. You save BIG money when you do them yourself. If you have new, food grade pails, there is not much need for mylar bags. Get your clean pail, put a small piece of dry ice in the bottom, fill with grain. Seal with gamma screw-on lid. Done! Dont use to big a piece of DI, it will put off toooo much gas and bucket could pop. Best to loosely seal, and after ice melts, seal tightly. This way extra gas will escape. When bottom of bucket if nolonger cold, ice has melted. You could put a few OA's in, but if there is no oxygen left from the dry ice, all will be fine.
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    • #3
      Catching Some Flax

      Its a good idea to use some of that grain now, and figure out how youre gonna mill it and prepare it. I know someoen who was preparing for Y2K, bought hundreds of pounds of grains, had it all nice and neatly packaged.... yep, you guessed it.. had no idea how to prepare it nor did they buy a grain mill. Wound up giving it to a neighbor who had a pig....

      Oats are good too. I love oatmeal with raisins and walnuts...


      (a clay earth oven from another post makes some awesome bread...)

      Lo~
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      • #4
        VooDoo...what does the dry ice do?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by snal View Post
          VooDoo...what does the dry ice do?

          CO2. Forces the O2 out.

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          • #6
            Rusty hit on the head. Guess I should have explained that.
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            • #7
              So I could fill up a bucket with Rice, and put some dry ice in the bottom and it will keep for years? (After I seal it of course)
              ~Lyon~

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              • #8
                Here is a link for the pails.
                http://www.bayteccontainers.com/8galsctoppad.html
                ~Lyon~

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                • #9
                  Didn't somebody mention somewhere that you should freeze any grain, rice, ect. for several days before sealing it, to kill any bugs that in it?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by snal View Post
                    Didn't somebody mention somewhere that you should freeze any grain, rice, ect. for several days before sealing it, to kill any bugs that in it?

                    Yes but it you put the dry ice in it it will kill any bugs because of no oxygen to breathe.
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                    • #11
                      Rice should be fine this way. I have not used it on anything but grains. http://store.honeyvillegrain.com/bucketsforstorage.aspx This link has decent buckets at resonable prices, Also have great deals on freeze dried fruits and veggies. Shipping cost cant be beat.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cudalyon View Post

                        I like those pails. I managed to scrounge one 5-gallon pail from a bakery, was thinking of getting the mylar bags and o2 absorbers, and filling it. Another bakery promised me a couple when I go back tomorrow. I was going to start with rice and wheat grain (and yes, I have a hand-crank grain mill on order, and I'm learning how to make bread.) The top is difficult though, i like the screw-top ones.

                        anybody know what UN DOT 35-rated means?
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by flight or fight View Post
                          Yes but it you put the dry ice in it it will kill any bugs because of no oxygen to breathe.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Brosia View Post
                            I like those pails. I managed to scrounge one 5-gallon pail from a bakery, was thinking of getting the mylar bags and o2 absorbers, and filling it. Another bakery promised me a couple when I go back tomorrow. I was going to start with rice and wheat grain (and yes, I have a hand-crank grain mill on order, and I'm learning how to make bread.) The top is difficult though, i like the screw-top ones.

                            anybody know what UN DOT 35-rated means?
                            Getting your buckets from a bakery is the best route.Most just throw them away.Icing buckets work great for all your preps.
                            This is a good place to get your Mylar bags
                            http://www.sorbentsystems.com/mylar.html

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                            • #15
                              Agreed on the Sorbent Systems! I am using some hard red winter wheat that was only stored in a sealed bucket and it is still good from 1998...

                              However now that I pack all my own stuff, I use the mylar bag as it is CHEAP insurance for long term storage (along with O2 absorbers, and a hot jaw sealer).

                              I'd say if you PLAN on using the grain in a year then no need for mylar, but if you are putting it up for the long haul... then go with mylar!

                              Also consider gamma seals to keep the bugs out of your OPEN buckets of grain you are using... another good piece of kit!!!
                              73

                              later,
                              ZA

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                              beat you to death with it because it is empty.

                              The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

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