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  • #16
    Originally posted by tracker View Post
    Sorry its been awhile since I have checked in. What system?? I ordered a couple good books today Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse and Crisis Preparedness Handbook. I would love to find a old hand pump to get water from well. I saw one on the internet but it was $650. can not afford that.
    You can buy a 12v pumps at auto store $300 bucks. 1 inch inlet /outlet
    store pvc to fit pump pipe, get enough wire and right guage couple golf cart batteries charge them with the generator

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    • #17
      How long are canned goods safe after their expiration date???? As long as I have power I have a freezer full of meat. I also have probably a couple months worth of canned and packaged goods.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tracker View Post
        Sorry its been awhile since I have checked in. What system?? I ordered a couple good books today Patriots: Surviving the Coming Collapse and Crisis Preparedness Handbook. I would love to find a old hand pump to get water from well. I saw one on the internet but it was $650. can not afford that.
        Well there are a few places I've seen them for really cheap money, Try, Tractor Supply Company, Agway, Vermont Country Store, www.katulas.com has a cast iron inch and a quarter pipe thread pump for $99 with free shipping. Hope this helps.

        Joe
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        • #19
          We have approx. 100 gallons of water on hand, about 2 months worth of canned goods, vegetables, fruits, and all sorts of canned meats, tuna, spam, corned beef, etc. and non-perishables like rice, noodles, flour, sugar, powdered milk, Bisquik (gotta have my flapjacks), etc. Plenty of spices, salt, pepper. If we need fresh meat my hunting area is just down the road. So we would be good for a while, hopefully.

          Joe
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          • #20
            Everyone has done a good job of taking inventory, but you are all missing the point of the original question. How long will it sustain your family if you have no access to groceries or water?

            How many people are you providing for? Can you correlate all of those pounds into meals, and into time?

            We are probably safe for six months between canned goods, dried goods, and frozen goods. This assumes we have power, although the freezer does not hold much of our long term preps. Water would be about the same before we had to use the ponds and the creek and purify, which we are prepared for. Water is not an issue.

            Very simply: 6 months = 180 days x 3 meals = 540 meals x 4 people = 2160 meals. You can do your own calculations, but you should have some method to calculate time.
            Last edited by Morgan101; 08-02-2012, 12:59 AM.
            The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary.

            Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes the reason is you are stupid, and make bad decisions.

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            • #21
              Morgan I understood the question asked, you're assuming that everyone did not take into account on how long it would sustain their family. I made my calculations on the amount of food my wife and I eat on a daily basis, and in a time of crisis it may not be necessary for everyone to eat three meals a day. So with those factors in mind I still stand by my original estimate.

              Joe
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              • #22
                Joe: Your post was one of the few that did mention time, and I think my post came out sharper than I had intended. All of the prepping is good, but can you correlate all of those pounds and cans and bags into meals and time? You have done that. I agree in hard times 3 squares may be a luxury, and if we ration we can stretch things a little farther. Just be able to translate inventory into time, however it works for you.
                The only place success comes before work is in the dictionary.

                Everything happens for a reason. Sometimes the reason is you are stupid, and make bad decisions.

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                • #23
                  Have approximately 14 months of food put back and enough seeds for 2 years of gardening, so that the next years crop could be stored. Additions would be made with wild game, fish and foraged foods. Need to put back salt, sugar and spices for several additional years. Waters never a problem as long as theres rain or I can get to the river,(1/2 mile away).

                  Green house in plans for winter produce and aquaponics.

                  Dale

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                  • #24
                    I think he wants to know how long you can support your family on what you currently have stored. Not what is projected in an future garden.

                    For my personal family of 3 we have 900 meals (Wise foods), 600 quarts of vegs/meat canned, 20 days worth of food from pantry, and 1 ton of various dried grains/rice in 55 gallon drums.

                    Water comes from 3 sources including a river/lake running 1/2 mile from house, fresh water springs on property, 1 artisan well moving at 12 psi on property.

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                    • #25
                      We can feed ourselves for 8 months, water comes from well. Also live on large creek, my avatar is my back yard. Have filter if creek water is needed for drinking.
                      Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. *George Bernard Shaw

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                      • #26
                        We have figured it out as hubby and I only eat 2 meals a day anyway. We get up early in morning and do yard work and house work. then come in clean up and start breafest or more like brunch and then we don't eat again until dinner around 5 or 6. the kids are the same way except for the youngest and he is 10. The one daughter with 3 children ages 19,16 and 10 has a very large supply of canned goods in different parts of the house. She is still stocking so between us we are very sure on these calulations that we have enough food now to hold us for 2 years. This does not count what is in the freezer as I did not calucalte that into the amount of food since this is what we are using now.
                        AJ

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                        • #27
                          There are 4 people at my house and my mother-in-law would not be able to bug out if things go crazy. Therefore we have over 90% of our supplies for staying put. We have approximately 8-10 months of canned goods, rice both white and brown, beans (several types), cereals, etc. However, we are still increasing the amount of water in our storage area. Takes a lot of water for 4 people for a year.

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                          • #28
                            Hmmm water I have in abundance. We have a 300 gallon tank, plus 4 50 gallon barrels, a rain catch system, a river nearby and several ponds (last resort)

                            We also have agency owned emergency equipment on the property, so of course the water from their tanks can be used for non-potable.

                            Food, we have beans and rice in dry storage, enough for 4-6 months for the three of us. We also have a large stash of canned goods, enough for 2-4 months.

                            I also hunt, forage, garden and fish, so as long as the yahoos around me don't flood the woods with desperate hunters, then I should be able to suppliment our food-stores.

                            Because I work for an emergency response agency, as soon as there is anything, we get large supplies of MRE's and water delivered to the office behind my house. So as long as there is no HUGE event, (EMP) then I will also have access to these things.
                            "Oh, America. I wish I could tell you that this was still America, but I've come to realize that you can't have a country without people. And there are no people here. No, my friends. This is now the United States of Zombieland"

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