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  • #16
    Originally posted by cbprice797 View Post
    Well I refuse to pay 500+ bucks for a kit that I can put together for less than half that and I have on that I put together in my pack right now. I also got someone I know looking to get me an "off the base" (ft Bragg) Full Medic Kit. He has gotten me several things before and I can't wait until he comes through on this and a couple of other things I have on a list.

    Wilderness survival site had these nice kits that were for someone in a "remote" chance of getting to the hospital. Yet there was not even a single suture in the kit. Not a staple gun. Not even super glue. What wereyou supposed to do??
    Man, those current-issue field kits are sick...I'd like to get my mitts on a few more...awesome trade goods.....I've only got two, and no replacement in sight since I left the PMC biz....
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
      No, Man...I mean badge-wearing stiffs......... :rolleyes: ..........LIT
      Roger that! Thought you literally meant how easy some places make it to sign in and make a custom badge from the comfort of your living room. We used to call them "raincoat badges" when they weren't department issue...and some guys inevitably did leave them on raincoats and outerwear that got ruined somehow...

      Oh, yes, those wilderness kits are expensive, but from what I have heard the components are all top-notch. Then again I am far from an expert on what brand/product constitutes a superior medical product.

      BTW regarding hemostatic agents, check out this thread I had a while back. Give me a day or two and I will see what, if any, updates I may be able to get:



      And something I dug up regarding expiration dates of meds:

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      • #18
        Yea meth I have that exact same article linked in my favorites. I also think that I have linked it before here on XColony somwhere.

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        • #19
          Buy the sutures they sell for "world travelers" who need clean medical supplies to "give to a medical professional in a third world country." That's what I did.

          LINK!: http://www.rei.com/product/784611 BAM. Too much coffee this morning. There may be better prices out there. This was the easiest link for me to post since I got mine here. Enjoy.

          EDIT: Of course do not use sutures if you have not been taught how to do it correctly or unless you are in a SHTF scenario. Go to a hospital if you gash your eye or anything else needing stitches!
          Last edited by Legionnaire; 11-16-2009, 02:41 PM. Reason: Important words left out.
          Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim.
          ~ Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you.-Ovid

          Mus uni non fidit antro.
          ~ A mouse does not rely on just one hole.-Plautus

          Non semper erit aestas
          ~ It will not always be summer.

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          • #20
            I was on the fire department for a short time when I was younger. We had the BLS and the ALS. Stood for Basic Life Support and Advanced Life Support. They told us that in the ALS was enough stuff to kill us and bring us back to life. Im pretty sure the defibulator was in the ALS. A search on google shopping led me to some of them. from $142 to $280 on the low end. Looks like there are many options.

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            • #21
              You'll find that most EMT's that have been on the job for awhile don't carry much more than a lot of bulky dressings, triangular bandages, tape and a pair of trauma shears. Shock is the #1 killer of patients in the field. Shock is usually caused by bleeding. If the bleeding is external you can slow it down by direct pressure, hence the bulky dressings. Anything else can be improvised using the triangular bandages and shears. I agree that most EMTs are trained to stabilize for transport - not an altogether good skill when help isn't coming...
              Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he's too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by charliefox View Post
                You'll find that most EMT's that have been on the job for awhile don't carry much more than a lot of bulky dressings, triangular bandages, tape and a pair of trauma shears. Shock is the #1 killer of patients in the field. Shock is usually caused by bleeding. If the bleeding is external you can slow it down by direct pressure, hence the bulky dressings. Anything else can be improvised using the triangular bandages and shears. I agree that most EMTs are trained to stabilize for transport - not an altogether good skill when help isn't coming...
                this is true....but I think what's asked is what is in a first responder bag.

                my bag is a hadge-podge of my EMT days and some medcorp lessons....along with wilderness FA and advanced wilderness FA....and probably some stuff that shouldn't be in there....but I feel is necessary.

                your FAK should only have in it what you feel comfortable using...
                Live like you'll die tomorrow, learn like you'll live forever.

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                • #23
                  An individuals trama bag needs to fit the level of training they have. If your not trained or qualified to intubate you wouldn't need an RSI kit. Same with I.V. starter kit, etc etc.

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                  • #24
                    way to dig up a 3 year old thread lol...
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Diesel View Post
                      way to dig up a 3 year old thread lol...
                      Lol. I saw that but figured id post my penny and a half.

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                      • #26
                        I use these:

                        http://www.amazon.com/Adventure-Medi.../dp/B001RMQ5IG

                        And I also suggest an EMT-B course.

                        The kit I linked to is just good for getting you or someone else back to base camp, and get you some good help.
                        not an expert

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by bcauz3y View Post
                          I use these:

                          http://wuoww.amazon.com/Adventure-Medical-Kits-Tactical-QuikClot/dp/B001RMQ5IG

                          And I also suggest an EMT-B course.

                          The kit I linked to is just good for getting you or someone else back to base camp, and get you some good help.
                          Those are good kits, but for the price a person could make there own for less. Just my 2cents.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by PT945 View Post
                            Those are good kits, but for the price a person could make there own for less. Just my 2cents.
                            Where can you get quickclot on the cheap? Most of the other stuff, I can get locally.

                            Good point about cost.
                            not an expert

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                            • #29
                              Id like to point out something. If it really is a situation where civilization as we know it is gone, and not coming back for, lets say years if ever, people will have no choice but to try and save lives or accept they are just going to sit and let some one die.

                              the odds of every person who actually has taken the college courses to become Paramedics, Doctors, nurses and what have you surviving in every area where there are people are slim.

                              in this type of situation, we will definetly be back in the dark ages as far as medical care is concerned. Personally I hope we never find out. but Im still trying to prepare myself for the possibility by learning and prepping as much as I can.

                              if nothing else it might turn out I have the Gear that a Paramedic in the group needs but doesnt have.
                              Last edited by TennOutdoors; 05-18-2011, 01:26 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by bcauz3y View Post
                                Where can you get quickclot on the cheap? Most of the other stuff, I can get locally.

                                Good point about cost.
                                I get mine from the drug store here in town. 8.00 for a 50g packet.

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