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    I recently got a new glock 36 for my main carry weapon.I have a cwp and have always carried revolvers,and have owned glocks before but never as a carry gun.I like glocks and there saftey system.Im also computant with firearms.Im thinking of adding a 8lb NY glock trigger spring or a siderlock trigger safety on my G36. The reason Im thinking of this is it is my main carry weapon and may carry it in many differant ways.I do use quality holsters that cover trigger.Question is am I going overboard,is any of this a good idea,or do I need to stop reading all those glock blogs and leave well enough alone?

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    I have personally carried a Glock and especially the Glock 36 in that capacity. I don't think those trigger devices are needed as long as you have a holster that covers the trigger guard well...

    The 8lb trigger connector still will not prevent it from going off if you have a finger or something on the trigger...

    The big negligent discharges come from the Glock in the form of reholstering with a finger on the trigger and that act causes you to pull the trigger when you shove it home. The other one is where a shirt or some other object catches on the trigger when reholstering.

    If you practice keeping your finger and other stuff off of the trigger you will be good to go!

    If you are like this guy... nothing will protect you from a NEGLIGENT discharge if you are DUMBO so watch and enjoy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIJOVD8hwY

    "I am the only one in this room professional enough to handle this weapon" ;)
    73

    later,
    ZA

    Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to
    beat you to death with it because it is empty.

    The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

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    • #3
      Your brain is your best safety device. I have carried a Glock for over a decade in a Kydex holster no problems.
      The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Zombie Axe View Post
        I have personally carried a Glock and especially the Glock 36 in that capacity. I don't think those trigger devices are needed as long as you have a holster that covers the trigger guard well...

        The 8lb trigger connector still will not prevent it from going off if you have a finger or something on the trigger...

        The big negligent discharges come from the Glock in the form of reholstering with a finger on the trigger and that act causes you to pull the trigger when you shove it home. The other one is where a shirt or some other object catches on the trigger when reholstering.

        If you practice keeping your finger and other stuff off of the trigger you will be good to go!

        If you are like this guy... nothing will protect you from a NEGLIGENT discharge if you are DUMBO so watch and enjoy:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIJOVD8hwY

        "I am the only one in this room professional enough to handle this weapon" ;)
        I love that friggin' video....I can't believe the duma** carries on like it waspart of the instruction...HA HA HA HA HA!

        Glocks have an internal safety-of-sorts...like most other pistols with the internal striker mechanism, it has a little nub which blocks the striker shaft from reaching the forward firing position unless the trigger is fully pulled. It's main purpose is to prevent discharge when the weapon receives a severe knock or is dropped.

        If your G also has the trigger safety, you're double covered...the Glock is meant only to fire a round when you mean it - makes sense, huh?

        Here's a link to a good pagethat will give you a more in-depth look at the Glock's trigger and firing components.

        http://www.boatmanbooks.com/samplelwglocks.html
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        • #5
          Originally posted by hellbilly View Post
          I recently got a new glock 36 for my main carry weapon.I have a cwp and have always carried revolvers,and have owned glocks before but never as a carry gun.I like glocks and there saftey system.Im also computant with firearms.Im thinking of adding a 8lb NY glock trigger spring or a siderlock trigger safety on my G36. The reason Im thinking of this is it is my main carry weapon and may carry it in many differant ways.I do use quality holsters that cover trigger.Question is am I going overboard,is any of this a good idea,or do I need to stop reading all those glock blogs and leave well enough alone?
          I've carried a Steyr M40 with a lowered trigger job for several years without a negligent discharge. It's the same trigger safety as a glock. with all the gadgets that they can put on a gun, a lot of them often hinder it's main intent. Just remember the mantra..."Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you are ready to fire". -Any Jar heads remember that one?

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          • #6
            Ah yes, "ready on the right? ready on the left? all ready on the firing line!"
            I love my Glocks, and as all have said, if you use your head you'll be fine. I don't care for all the extra doo dads on a pistol. In a pinch, you don't want to be thinking about flipping levers or switches. Plus, a 8lb trigger will effect your accuracy- if you don't practice alot.

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            • #7
              As a certified Glock Armorer I've lost count of the number of trigger jobs I've performed. Glock pistols utilized what they refer to as the "Safe Action System. Incorporating 3 distinct safeties:

              Trigger Safety
              Firing Pin Safety
              Drop Safety

              Only once did I have a customer request the NYPD 8lb trigger system, after dry firing it and a trip to the range he went to the 3.5lb connector and an extended slide release. His groups improved dramatically as well. There is quite a noticeable difference in trigger pull and I also truly believe it effects accuracy in a negative way. Especially in a stressful situtation. Or god forbid an off hand shot (non shooting hand) situation occurs. It is quite common and well documented that many Law Enforcement departs have required additional training, practice/range time before their officers have become proficient with the Glocks to carry them in the field. This situtation has been futher exacerbated with the use of the 8lb trigger.

              Now I know some of you will disagree with my proficiency statement; all I can say is good for you. I will not argue the virtues of a glock or it's accuracy with anyone. They are quite popular and for the most part work as advertised and then some. The local Glock Rep did not like the fact that I personally carried another brand of firearm (Ruger P-89 DC) instead of a Glock while selling firearms at the store. They are good firearms just not my personal cup of tea. Not a fan of the polygonal barrels. Seen one too many squib loads even with newly manufactured ammunition. Glock recommends only new fully jacketed ammo

              Good luck with your decision.

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              • #8
                I'd like to go with the 3.5 lb triggers in all of mine. Just haven't taken the time. Thanks for the input.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by David M. View Post
                  I'd like to go with the 3.5 lb triggers in all of mine. Just haven't taken the time. Thanks for the input.
                  Real easy and inexpensive to do. Takes maybe all of five minutes to do. Quite a noticable difference afterwards. I also recommend the extended slide release; it's much more user friendly and no where near as obstructive as most people think.
                  Last edited by Bayou Blaster; 02-06-2009, 02:25 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bayou Blaster View Post
                    As a certified Glock Armorer I've lost count of the number of trigger jobs I've performed. Glock pistols utilized what they refer to as the "Safe Action System. Incorporating 3 distinct safeties:

                    Trigger Safety
                    Firing Pin Safety
                    Drop Safety

                    Only once did I have a customer request the NYPD 8lb trigger system, after dry firing it and a trip to the range he went to the 3.5lb connector and an extended slide release. His groups improved dramatically as well. There is quite a noticeable difference in trigger pull and I also truly believe it effects accuracy in a negative way. Especially in a stressful situtation. Or god forbid an off hand shot (non shooting hand) situation occurs. It is quite common and well documented that many Law Enforcement departs have required additional training, practice/range time before their officers have become proficient with the Glocks to carry them in the field. This situtation has been futher exacerbated with the use of the 8lb trigger.

                    Now I know some of you will disagree with my proficiency statement; all I can say is good for you. I will not argue the virtues of a glock or it's accuracy with anyone. They are quite popular and for the most part work as advertised and then some. The local Glock Rep did not like the fact that I personally carried another brand of firearm (Ruger P-89 DC) instead of a Glock while selling firearms at the store. They are good firearms just not my personal cup of tea. Not a fan of the polygonal barrels. Seen one too many squib loads even with newly manufactured ammunition. Glock recommends only new fully jacketed ammo

                    Good luck with your decision.
                    Hey, do you know where I can renew my armorer cert for Glock? It's expired last year, and there are no reps out here that I know of. A heavier trigger on an autoloader will bring impact to the right for righty's and left for leftys. Anyways..I also shoot archery, and I've seen people dump tons of money for the most "accurate" crap...arrows had to weigh EXACTLY the same, blah, blah, blah..most of the time I outshoot those people with torn fletching on my arrows. Most of the firearms you pull off the rack will be more accurate than most people can shoot. So there is no need to dump several thousand dollars on a "sniper rifle", when 500 bucks for a remington 700 and a nikon scope will do the job plenty well. It's the reliability that you are should be looking for when purchasing a firearm. When you pull trigger, gun goes bang, every time...isss good!

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                    • #11
                      I carry a glock 23 .40 every day. It was the gun I was issued, and It is in a level II holster that covers the trigger. This is the same setup I use to qualify once a year, and the same set up I use every time I go to the range. Personally I was not a fan os Glock....originally. I have gotten so used to my work weapon, that I have a 23 that I carry for CCW. The glocks are like everyone has already said. They are great guns that will put up with a hell of a beating, and still fire true. As long as you use your head like you do with the rest of your weapons, you are fine.

                      Its the people out there who do not use the brain that God gave them, that end up in the "Darwin Awards" books :rolleyes:
                      All that is necessary for the triumph of evil....

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Fawkinscratch View Post
                        Hey, do you know where I can renew my armorer cert for Glock? It's expired last year, and there are no reps out here that I know of. A heavier trigger on an autoloader will bring impact to the right for righty's and left for leftys. Anyways..I also shoot archery, and I've seen people dump tons of money for the most "accurate" crap...arrows had to weigh EXACTLY the same, blah, blah, blah..most of the time I outshoot those people with torn fletching on my arrows. Most of the firearms you pull off the rack will be more accurate than most people can shoot. So there is no need to dump several thousand dollars on a "sniper rifle", when 500 bucks for a remington 700 and a nikon scope will do the job plenty well. It's the reliability that you are should be looking for when purchasing a firearm. When you pull trigger, gun goes bang, every time...isss good!
                        I would call Glock and get them to mail you a listing of the next armorers course in your area. The majority of the courses are offered to Law Enforcement but I was able to attend my last certification course at a Local Police Academy with no problems. If you are an authorized dealer all you have to do is fill out and fax the requestion form back to them; they will mail you back or Fax to you an authorization with date, time, location etc. It can take a while. If you are not a dealer you wil have to pay for the course. I think it was $150:00 for the armorers course and good for 3 years. Some are one day courses while others are two day (armorers and shooting course). You can elect for one or both. BTW who showed you my Rem 700 .308 with Nikon scope huh?

                        GLOCK, Inc.
                        6000 Highlands Parkway
                        Smyrna, GA 30082
                        U.S.A.
                        Tel.: +1 770 - 432 1202
                        Fax: +1 770 - 433 8719
                        Last edited by Bayou Blaster; 02-06-2009, 04:41 PM.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bayou Blaster View Post
                          BTW who showed you my Rem 700 .308 with Nikon scope huh?

                          GLOCK, Inc.
                          6000 Highlands Parkway
                          Smyrna, GA 30082
                          U.S.A.
                          Tel.: +1 770 - 432 1202
                          Fax: +1 770 - 433 8719
                          Let me guess, either the monarch, or the BDC?...nice choice! And the best "bang" for the buck!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Fawkinscratch View Post
                            Let me guess, either the monarch, or the BDC?...nice choice! And the best "bang" for the buck!
                            Remington model 700 BDL with Ram Line "Syn Tech" stock, Shilen Trigger and Nikon Buckmasters 3 x 9 x 40. Very clear optics and slightly thickening crosshairs away from the center. Wanted it that way for low lite conditions and as my eyes are getting older. Too bad most people shy away from the japanese optics not realizing they supply the lenses and in some cases the tubes for some of the higher end scope manufactures. They don't stop to think about the quality of the japanese camera optics that directly influenced the quality of there scope optics. BTW my Binos are Minolta; no eye strain at all after prolonged glassing either. Agree best bang for the buck.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bayou Blaster View Post
                              I would call Glock and get them to mail you a listing of the next armorers course in your area. The majority of the courses are offered to Law Enforcement but I was able to attend my last certification course at a Local Police Academy with no problems. If you are an authorized dealer all you have to do is fill out and fax the requestion form back to them; they will mail you back or Fax to you an authorization with date, time, location etc. It can take a while. If you are not a dealer you wil have to pay for the course. I think it was $150:00 for the armorers course and good for 3 years. Some are one day courses while others are two day (armorers and shooting course).
                              You can always go to http://www.glocktraining.com/ to get the list of training locations without having to call them also.

                              I have to recert next month, the only class available in KY this year, before I go to Kosovo in the fall...

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