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    I just picked up one of these S&W sigma 40cal"s.. I have heard alot of bad talk about them maybe because the price is cheap people think the firearm is too...i guess? built just like the glock but with more features and a better feel. i have fired probobly 300 rounds so far and not one jam or anything... the only thing i dont like is the 10 lb. trigger pull, but there is a couple fixes to that. this fire arm is mosdef a bang for the buck at $350 i paid for it brandnew.

    Caliber: .40S&W in Sigma 40
    Overall Length: 184 mm
    Barrel Length: 114 mm (4.5in) in pre-1999 Sigmas; 101.6 mm (4 in) in current versions
    Weight: ca. 690 g empty
    Capacity: 16 rounds (9 mm); 15 rounds (.40SW)


    The Sigma series of pistols was introduced in 1994 by its first model, Sigma 40F in .40SW, following with 9x19mm version. Sigma pistols bear so much similirality to Glocks, that the lawsuit was rised against the S&W, so Smith & Wesson finally paid undisclosed sum (some millions of $$$) to Glock for violation of their patents, and then S&W received the rights to continue the production of Sigma line.

    technically, Sigma pistols are recoil operated, locked breech semi-auto pistols, built on modified Browning-style linkless locking principle. All Sigmas feature Glock-type single action-type trigger with automatical half-cock and manual striker cocking during trigger pull. Sigma pistols had no external (manual) safeties. Gun frame is made from polymer, the slide and the barrel can be manufactured from the stainless steel or from the carbon steel (in so called "Value" models).

    In 1999 S&W improved the Sigma series. Main change was shortening the barrel and the slide by .5 inch (12.7 mm). Other improvements included more comfortable grip checkering, slightly enlarged ejection port and addition of the acessory rail at the front of the frame (under the barrel).









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    proper preparedness prevents poor performance

  • #2
    Not a bad choice, you didn't mention very weather resistant to boot and the .40s&w is a good round( i like pistol rounds that start with a 4, .40, .44, .45,. 454, .460 .....) The only other note Ill add add about the .40s&w is when shopping for gun its a good idea to buy one with a fully supported chamber if possible. Rugers for example, although a great gun and utterly dependable dont have a fully supported chamber. Meaning there's an open area at the bottom of the chamber and the empty's come out with a slight bulge in the case making it a little tougher to reload ( still doable but cuts down on case life). I reload everything I shoot, if you don't reload you should learn (SNAL) being able to roll your own may be an important asset one day soon!
    Morguns1cam

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    • #3
      i bought one a couple week's ago i love it truth be known i prefer it oner a glunk i think they are accurate lightweight and comfortable to carry
      the pack that plays together stays together

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      • #4
        i do admit i like it better then the glock too.... and the reloading ammo thing? i dont plan too when i get more moolah!!!
        proper preparedness prevents poor performance

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        • #5
          you don't have to reload but it is nice to at least have the knowledge
          the pack that plays together stays together

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          • #6
            Good Choice

            I have owned the 9mm version of the Sigma for 10 years. I must have 3000 rounds through it in that time and I cannot remember one time when it malfunctioned. The fact that they are only $300 if not a bad thing at all. One of the few times when a good price and good quality meet. Plus, the high cap mags are crazy nice and super quality as well.

            Enjoy.

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            • #7
              i meant i do want to just need the tools and knowledge....i do agree though
              proper preparedness prevents poor performance

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              • #8
                thats awsome
                proper preparedness prevents poor performance

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                • #9
                  I hope you have sent off your rebate for the $50 already. It took about 2 months for me to get mine.
                  ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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                  • #10
                    I owned a Sigma in 9mm back when they came out. I put 300 rounds through it on the first day that I bought it. Shot it standing, and from a rest, and could NOT get it to shoot groups that were better than "minute of paper plate" at 10 yards...even from the rest.
                    I tried every kind of ammunition I could find, and had the same results. I took it back to the dealer I got it from, he sent it to S&W who kept it for a couple of weeks and sent it back...too it out and shot it...same problem. At that time I had a couple of nice 1911 pistols, a browning hi-power, and a couple of Glocks...I could shoot all of them like a champ...so it wasnt me, or the ammo.
                    Over the next couple of months I shot it more and more, and it got worse and worse...I ended up giving it away to someone I knew, and I felt bad about giving it to him. He kept it a couple of months and gave it to his father in law, who ended up selling it for $100.00 at a gun show.
                    The local Sheriffs Department here started issuing the Sigma around this time. The had awful problems out of them....the guns would run 100%, but the accuracy was just plain awful...so, after about a year or two S&W came out with the "Enhanced Sigma" and gave them to the deputies as a 1 for 1 trade to get the old ones out of their hands. the guns felt better, and looked better (different patterns on the grips, and a rail on the dust cover), but still had the same accuracy issues.
                    A new regional jail opened around here at the same time, they issuded the Sigma series to their officers who carry guns (transportation, etc) and they had worse problems, Their officers could not even pass the state required qualification couse with the Sigma. They ended up using Glocks from another agency for qualification, and had an 89% improvement rate on the number of officers who passed the qualification course.
                    From what I have read, the Sigmas were hit and miss as far as the problems go...maybe you got one of the "hits", and if you did, then you got a good gun...if you got a "miss", then I would get rid if it quick, fast, and in a hurry.
                    I am an NRA Certified Instructor/Training Counselor, Glock Certified Instructor and Master Armorer....I am biased to glocks, but will admit to their problems...the Sigma is NOT like a Glock at all!

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                    • #11
                      on a funny note i guess that's why wva didn't help us in the civil war cant shhot straight now seriously i love mine shoot sub.05 groups can put a clay target at 30 yards and disenagrate within two shoots
                      the pack that plays together stays together

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                      • #12
                        West Virgina?? Why would you cuss at a man that way?????
                        I am in Southwest Virginia, not WVA! lol

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                        • #13
                          The original Sigmas were absolute junk. They suffered from many maladies including poorly spaced chambers, out of spec barrels, and generally poor workmanship (lots of burrs where there shouldn't be any). The security force for my employer (a large aerospace manufacturer) issued the Sigma in 1995 and had nothing but problems - so much so that every one of the 400 they bought was rebuilt by S&W...twice! They finally switched to Glocks in 2005.

                          The new generation of Sigmas is a different animal. All of the previous problems have been solved (these were generally due to rushing the original guns to market too quickly to compete with the Glock) and these have become a very good choice for shooters just starting out, or for those who want a reliable pistol without laying out tons of $$$. Enjoy!
                          Don't pick a fight with an old man. If he's too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

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