if shtf, the pistol wont amount to a hill of beans.

[Garand]

I'll take that bet. While in the military I served in 2 wars and several interventions (think desert one April 1980). My experience is that a chest rig is for people who sit up right, truck and plane drivers. The first thing you do when attacked is duck for cover. Get your butt in the ground.

So how can you get your weapon out while laying on it? Off your leg in an extended carry puts it 6-8 inches below your pistol belt, with in reach.

And the problem serving in a support trade? Personally in the late '70's when on a tour in the middle east during the winter months while wearing a parka at night and issued a Browning 9mm, while working perimeter security I used the US M7 holster. It worked well at that time, and at that time I was an infanteer.

[Tugaloo]

So how can you get your weapon out while laying on it? Off your leg in an extended carry puts it 6-8 inches below your pistol belt, with in reach.

Other than I knew it was there; I never was concerned about my pistol because my primary weapon was a rifle.

Armyjimbo,
Although I didn't harvest it; I've eaten it and I don't like it.

Bear know they are top of the food chain. After a few days of heavy rain, seeds that fell from the bird feeder sprouted. When they were about 8" to 10" tall, a bear was pulling them up to at them. I went outside on the deck yelling and clapping my hands; he glanced at me and kept eating.
The wife opened the door and the Pitts ran out onto the screen porch; as it has a hand rail on the inside, they couldn't get out. However, they went ballistic, barking, snarling and growling. The bear beat feet.

I've seen signs stating "Ignore the dog and beware the owner." With bears, it's ignore the man with shotgun and beware the dogs.. LOL

[Tugaloo]

I made the mistake of leaving the cover off the bird seed container; AKA a small galvanized trash can. Judging by the height of the claw marks, it was a young small bear. The paper towels made the claw marks visible.
There are more claw marks.

[JDTomba]

Just my opinion and it amounts to what your used to for me. I carried a M1911A1 for years. I now carry a Gen 1 Glock 24 in 40S&W compensated. I'm used to the weight. WHen foraging i carry the Gen 4 10mm Glock. It's smaller and lighter plus the power is there IF needed. Have not encountered a bear but did have a friend have to put down a bull moose with the same weapon when attacked.I have an old 12 shot .22 revolver I've had since I was a kid but don't use it for anything but plinking; but I know people who swear it is the most deadly weapon they own. I think it's all a matter of opinion and personal likes and dislikes.

[Tugaloo]

JDTomba, It is always opinion and the only opinion that doesn't count is Registror's.. ROFL

I've heard the .22 RF referred to as the surgeon's nightmare... It's not an internet legend as heard it long before the internet. IMO, I'd prefer a larger caliber.

We have a side by side UTV and enjoy exploring dirt roads and power line clear cuts. Although we have pistols, I also bring a semi auto rifle.

[Armyjimbo]

Registror, Which YouTube channel did you watch to form your useless opinion?

if it's about handguns in pockets it must be Paul Harrell and his coat of many pockets.

[Tugaloo]

if it's about handguns in pockets it must be Paul Harrell and his coat of many pockets.

I don't know Paul Harrell except for his videos; however, I do know Brian who assists or used to assist Paul with training. Brian was an SFC or E7, Striker NCO in the Sandbox.
As Brian and his wife moved to the boonies in Oregon, I know if he still is involved with Paul.
Brian built a 6.8 SPC and shared pictures of its terminal ballistics on deer etc. with SSA ammo. Quite impressive.

[Armyjimbo]

He's known for reaching into his pockets and removing yet another handgun or magazine. People joke about it in his videos. I'm not too sure about stuffing a handgun into a pocket is a wise idea in a high stress environment, definitely way too easy to get snagged and held.

[Tugaloo]

He's known for reaching into his pockets and removing yet another handgun or magazine. People joke about it in his videos. I'm not too sure about stuffing a handgun into a pocket is a wise idea in a high stress environment, definitely way too easy to get snagged and held.

IMO, it's click bait and recruitment videos for paying customers.

Look how many former spec ops types etc. offer courses.
Although, it doesn't pay as well as Black Water or whatever they are calling themselves now; the risks are a lot lower.
The Anti-FA and BLM riots have been a gold mine for those kind of schools.

Even Keanu Reeves, AKA John Wick attended Teran Bulter's school for quite a few months. For "realism" the whole cast attended for 90 days and I believe Keanu Reeves went for 6 months.

[Armyjimbo]

I'd believe it with KR theres a bunch of videos of him running a shoot and move as part of his last movie as Wick. As to Harrell I don't watch many but I've noticed him and his pockets. He does fair realistic scenarios compared to others,

[Tugaloo]

KR really got into firearms.

Hollywood is getting more authentic. In "Enemy at the Gates", they bought carcasses from a slaughter house and taped the sound of bullets hitting it.

[Garand]

I like Paul Harrell's videos, he cuts to the chase and provides details and a realistic evaluation, that others don't.

[Tugaloo]

I like Paul Harrell's videos, he cuts to the chase and provides details and a realistic evaluation, that others don't.

Both Paul and Brian are ex-military grunt types who invested a lot of time in the civilian side.

[Armyjimbo]

I like Paul Harrell's videos, he cuts to the chase and provides details and a realistic evaluation, that others don't.

Yes, He throws away all the faffing about, states the point of the test. He then gives a talk about the item of the test, then does the test. He then talks about the test results and wraps it up, like any military lecture/ weapons eval!

[Tugaloo]

Yes, He throws away all the faffing about, states the point of the test. He then gives a talk about the item of the test, then does the test. He then talks about the test results and wraps it up, like any military lecture/ weapons eval!

But PH is not as dry, dull and boring reading as the Military courses..

A good example is John Plaster's Ultimate Sniper books. The contents are based on military sniper courses; however, Plaster's presentation is definitely a lot better. OTOH, it isn't worth Amazon's current price of $391.96.