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  • Tugaloo
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    The 22 RF's headspace is set by the thickness of the rim. SAAMI's specification for the .22 RF long rifle is on page 13 at the link below.
    https://saami.org/wp-content/uploads...2018-06-13.pdf
    Per SAAMI, t
    he rim thickness is .043" to .036" (1.09mm to .91mm)
    This is one of the reasons accuracy can vary by the ammunition manufacturer and the firearm manufacturer.

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  • Garand
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    My bragging shot with a .22 is at 75 yds on a steel 10" tall gopher with a .22 LR Kimber conversion kit fit on my Series '70 using CCI Stingers. Steel gopher shoots are a hoot!

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  • BigEd63
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    I've never bothered with a .22lr past 100yds and if i did I don't recall.

    One thing I've noticed over the years is that .22lr ammo has the overall Ballistic Coefficient of a rubber brick considering it's weight and profile.

    ​​​​​So use whatever standard to high velocity ammunition your particular rifle likes the best.
    My current long range .22 is a vintage Mossberg 144 bolt action. Using Aquila Interceptor solid point.
    Of course that's "unobtainium" currently.

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  • Dorobuta
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    Originally posted by Dutch106 View Post
    I'm sorry but you guys are not trying to tell me your hitting cans past 100 yds with a 22rf. watching the average shooters at the range most cannot hit a 3 inch bullseye at 50 feet.
    Standard wisdom calls a 22rf rifle is 50 yard max, pistols rarely 50 feet.
    Like anything else, it depends on the shooter. The average shooter at the range is a shooter, not a marksman or a dedicated hunter. Ask them the drops for their ammo at various ranges, ask them what the remaining Velocity of their rounds are. 90 percent will give you a deer in the headlights stare.

    find the ones that can give answers and then look at their shot placement.

    the average guy buys a box of ammo without any thought.

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  • registror
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    you'd have to know the range and there could be zero wind or mirage. I've done this sort of thing on floating bottles with .22lr pistols and there's way too much missing done to make it viable for anything but enterainment. A .22lr rifle IS still lethal, by Army standards, at 150 yds. it's still got 60 ft lbs. left out there. It can probably inflict serious wounds at 200m and maybe kill with throat or eye hits at considerably longer ranges. But I bet a heavy coat would stop it penetrating your sternum at 400 yds, from a rifle, or 300 yds from a 4" barreled pistol, cause it's down to pellet gun type "power", 30 ft lbs and less.

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  • pperon
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    I also like using sub-sonic ammo, the problem is that it won't operate a semi-auto reliably. Bolt action or revolver no problem, but not a semi-auto. I find the bullet drop is about 1.5 time more for the longer shots.

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  • jeager
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    For small game I keep shots under 50 yards,
    My small game is almost all squirrels and occasionally a sitting rabbit.
    Ohio squirrel season comes in way too early in my opinion, around Sept. 1st
    and I'm archery hunting deer.
    The leaves are thick at that time of year and it's hard to even see squirrels much
    less get a shot.
    October is a bit better.
    Most of the shots I get at squirrels are under 30 yards.
    Sub sonic .22 l.r. h.p. ammo is my choice.
    It's quiet in the woods and doesn't run squirrels off into the next woods.
    For shotguns on squirrels I prefer a 28 gauge full choke 870.
    Sadly I don't have one any longer but am shopping for one.

    https://www.remington.com/shotguns/p...el-870-express


    http://www.gunbroker.com/item/636308244
    So may toys, so little money!

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  • zzak
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    100 yds+ is too far to expect much in the way of penetration or tissue damage with a .22, but hitting soda cans, with a rifle? That's nothing much, at 150 yds, with a scope, a braced firing position, and either having sighted in at the longer range, or having a mark to aim at, high enough above the target to allow for drop, etc. It's just a question of how many shots it takes to get the hits, that's all. A good man, already zeroed, and a windless day, can hit more cans than he'll miss, at 150 yds. All that's required, really, is 3"x4" groups at that range. Not hard to deliver.

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  • Buggyout
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    Originally posted by Dutch106 View Post
    I'm sorry but you guys are not trying to tell me your hitting cans past 100 yds with a 22rf. watching the average shooters at the range most cannot hit a 3 inch bullseye at 50 feet.
    Standard wisdom calls a 22rf rifle is 50 yard max, pistols rarely 50 feet.
    I would question the over 100 yard thing myself. Maybe in .22 Mag, but just barely.

    I have softened with the lethality of a .22 LR during the last few years. It pokes holes in things at short to medium ranges. Will it stop the battle? Probably not. Is it better than throwing rocks - Yes! I know some people just can't afford to equip themselves with a modern day battle rifle. If it's a .22 they can afford, then... by all means use it for self-defense.

    IMHO

    -Buggy

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  • Dutch106
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    I'm sorry but you guys are not trying to tell me your hitting cans past 100 yds with a 22rf. watching the average shooters at the range most cannot hit a 3 inch bullseye at 50 feet.
    Standard wisdom calls a 22rf rifle is 50 yard max, pistols rarely 50 feet.
    Last edited by myakka; 02-10-2014, 07:55 PM.

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  • pperon
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    I consider any .22 shot at 100 yards to be at the right at the limit ballistically for taking game. While you can shoot further the energy really falls off after 100 yards.

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  • countryboy6685
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    Originally posted by Legion489 View Post
    Well I remember reading on one forum about a shooter who was shooting frozen, then thawed, turkeys at 300 yards and farther to judge what various .22 LR shells would do, but while it may have gone in one side of a hollow turkey and out the other, I would not consider a .22 LR a 300 yard killer.

    With a good, accurate .22 LR, it is quite possible to hit beer cans at 300 yards if the wind is right and you know what you are doing. I have shot .22s at things that were easily 600 yards away, and as I could see the hits, "walked" the bullets where I wanted them. I might not have done much damage to a human, but I bet he wouldn't be sticking his head up either.

    A guy I know who farms regularly kills deer with a .22 Mag. I said a .22 mag isn't a great deer rifle, and he said he killed 49 deer with 50 shots, so he should know what he is talking about. Of course he picks his shots and is never over 50 yards away too.
    If you farm much as Your friend dose and as I do you will be taking shots a lot ferther than 50 yards . It wont take long till deer hear or see you that close and know what is about to happen so you find yourself taking longer and longer shots . I really can kill deer with my 22LR out to 250 yards but like I said I buy good ammo andits not in haevy wind or rain and I practice a lot . But the 22 LR round is capable of doing far more damage than most people think it can .
    Robert W

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  • Legion489
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    Well I remember reading on one forum about a shooter who was shooting frozen, then thawed, turkeys at 300 yards and farther to judge what various .22 LR shells would do, but while it may have gone in one side of a hollow turkey and out the other, I would not consider a .22 LR a 300 yard killer.

    With a good, accurate .22 LR, it is quite possible to hit beer cans at 300 yards if the wind is right and you know what you are doing. I have shot .22s at things that were easily 600 yards away, and as I could see the hits, "walked" the bullets where I wanted them. I might not have done much damage to a human, but I bet he wouldn't be sticking his head up either.

    A guy I know who farms regularly kills deer with a .22 Mag. I said a .22 mag isn't a great deer rifle, and he said he killed 49 deer with 50 shots, so he should know what he is talking about. Of course he picks his shots and is never over 50 yards away too.

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  • countryboy6685
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    When I was a teenager and in my early 20's I use to shoot between 500 to 1000 rounds a week in one 22 or another . OH for the days when you could buy a brick of 22's for $7-10 bucks .
    Robert W

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  • Iron mike
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    I squirrel hunt with MK2 ruger lots of fun and I can hit them out to about 60 yards fairly often

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