AR-15 Optics

[dalewick]

Trying out a Barska SWAT Tactical (mildot) 3.5 - 10X by 40mm on my mk12. My variant anyway. So far it's working out well as an inexpensive replacement for Leupold mark 4. With 77gr. BTHP rounds, it's keeping a 6 inch pattern at 600 yards. I like mildot scopes on all my rifles out of habit and uniformity.

Dale

[Big Guy]

I don't have optics on my AR's, I'm an iron sight kinda guy.

I do have optics on my bigger caliber hunting rifles for longer distance shooting.

[Sierra 173]

Here's a set up that the Filipino Marine Scout-Snipers have found to be useful and deadly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSSR_rifle

http://users.belgacom.net/gc378379/sniping/Filipino%20MSSR.htm

Basically what they did was take old M-16 rifles, upgrade them and mount scopes on them. They were using Tasco 3 by 9 variable scopes. They were making do with what they had because they couldn't afford a whole lot more. Theirs is a poor but proud nation so they use what they have. They're good people. Right now they're fighting a war against drugs and communist infiltration both coming from mainland Asia. Last time they fought against invasion it was against the Japanese in WW2. That's one pair of reasons that these sniper rifles came to be. But their idea to turn M-16 and AR-15 type rifles into sniper or precision shooting rifles could have some merit for survival people or people in survival situations. I've been playing with this idea for several years now and it does seem to have merit to me.

[rhode]

I would never be without the carrying handle, and the scope mounted thereon, for shtf. I want those luminous, PROTECTED iron sights, too. But until the batteries will no longer charge from the solar charger, I want the red-dot sight, because it makes hitting fast and easy. So, however, does having a sound suppressor, drop in trigger job, .22 conversion unit (when ammo prices are normal!) and an electronic shooting timer. Without the latter, and some knowledge about what the top hands can do, you have no clue what real skill with a rifle even looks like.
anyone can get the hits, if they have enough time, but game and enemies tend to not do that! The master shottist can get the hit about 3x as fast as the typical cop or soldier.

[lalakai]

I opted for the GRSC 1-4 which has been discontinued and replaced with the 1-6 http://www.nordenperformance.com/ The Burris is based on the optics from the GRSC and will be very very similiar. LaRue mounts completed the package and i've been extremely happy with the results; taking the scope off and on, it consistently returns to zero. At 1X it looks like a dot with very fast target acquisition with optic distortion only at the extreme edge of the glass. The red/green options work well for bright sunlight or low light shooting. Our range only goes to 300 yards but the auto compensator will give you off-hand body shots every time. Even my wife enjoys shooting the M4 with the GRSC; up to 100 yards, where ever she puts the dot, the round follows. For her to terrorize a steel plate chicken at 100 yards, put a big smile on her face and a reluctance to let me have my turn with the M4.

I know I have some pics and will post as as soon as I can find them.

[Buggyout]

That looks good. What about a buis?

My AR is my CQB option, I currently have an EOtech mounted. I was trained as an assaulter in the Army and short range as a police officer. It would not be for me with a 5x magnification and light on close work. This sight rates well and if i could get it for my long range option; My M1A, I would snap it up in a heart beat.

It also looks GREAT!

- buggy

[THUNDERMAN]

Here you go Buggy.The weight of this sight helps counter the weight of the front end of this rifle.;)

[Buggyout]

Also, could you provide pictures?

- Buggy

[Buggyout]

Nothing wrong with Burris!!!! Looks like a good weapon sight. The only red flag would be the weight, its nearly 19 ounces...more than twice the weight of some ACOGs.

Does it feel heavy mounted?

- Buggy

[THUNDERMAN]

I purchased the ar536 prism sight by burris recently.This sight is very handy because you have a reticle at all times and red or green if needed. The reticle also has bullet drop compensation dots. It is a 5 power scope also.I haven't had a chance to try it at distances over 100 yds yet but like it very well so far. Anyone else tried it yet?

[davisontp]

My go to optic is a Aimpoint, very well built and worth every penny. Used them in the military, from there first fielded versions, which we loved but the battery life sucked something fierce, to thier latest, i which they solved the battery life problem. Current versions will run several thousand hours on one battery. One of my M3's has had the same battery for 3 yrs. I also have all my Aimpoints supported by BUIS's (Back Up Iron Sites). When you need a really quick point and shoot, except no substitute in my opinion. I regularly take them to my local range and hit the 450 yrd target with no problem.

[WV scout]

Yes getting your optic is the hard part. There are so many choices out there. I am still trying to make up my mind; but for now I took the red/green dot ( Center Point) off of my 12 guage that I use for turkey hunting and put it on my AR. I have not had any problems yet. I have used these sights for a number of years now and have not had a problem with them. They are not that expensive; they might not have all the bells and whistles of a $400 sight but they get the job done. Hope this helps.

[lalakai]

Optics are like boots....each person has a preference and you usually don't know yours until you've broken in your boots lol. I've used several different types of optics on the M4 and it was a combination of quality and wallet that gave me what I have. For some reason the heads-up type just doesn't "fit" me; i'm consistently shooting high. I wanted the flexibility of close quarters with the option of range. I had been watching this scope http://www.grscinc.com/CRS.html for a long time and fell in love with the aiming reticle along with the option for red or green illumination. I still keep my iron sights on, and can quickly ditch the scope using these mounts http://www.laruetactical.com/larue-t...ount-qd-lt-104. I've removed and remounted the scope at least 20 times and it comes back to nearly perfect zero.

edit....ps....the dillo rub is great stuff lol, and so is the bottle opener.

[KSDeputy]

I agree with you. I use iron sights on all of my rifles. The terrain here is hilly and lots of trees. The possibility of needing to make a long shot, over 300 yards, is not probable. If that is required, I always have a 30.06 carbine. I use the iron sights on it, as well. A scope might help on this gun, and I am looking for just the right one. One that doesn't cost more than the gun.

[Apocalyptic_Sojourner]

I've never used any EO Techs. I honestly like ACOGs, even though they're pricey for just 3 or 4x magnification. But I do like their compactness (if that's a word) and they're also practically indestructable and won't lose their zero. I'm also kinda addicted to the bullet drop compensators and also having the tritium illuminated reticle is a huge plus, I think.