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  • #31
    Originally posted by Pioneer View Post
    I'm sure I'm not the first one to think about this, but I find it quite difficult to let anyone know what guns I have. I figure the Government knows, with all my background checks but to publicly announce what I have just doesn't seem all that reasonable. :confused:
    I'm of a divided mind....you'll know what I want you to know.....the rest is practically fiction... ;)
    "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

    "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
      I'm of a divided mind....you'll know what I want you to know.....the rest is practically fiction... ;)
      Nuff Said!
      Being unprepared is giving up!

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      • #33
        BS whats your source on the recoil buffer and other parts?
        OK I did a web search and came-up with PerfectUnion.com,,they have the most excelent section on Ruger Minis I've ever seen!
        One fellow, Z-Man, posted a thread 7 years ago on his Mini-14 RR Project gun, it originaly shot 7" MOA groups, after some reasonably inexpensive mods it shot sub-MOA (from a machine rest)!
        #1 The main lessons learned is that a muzzle break will reduce group size by up to 50% to 3.5" (adds barrel mass, reduces whip)
        #2 cut barrel to 17.25" (with-out muzzel break, reduce group size to 1.75" (stiffens barrel)
        #3 glass bed action (ridgidity reduces movement and whip)
        #4 Trigger job
        #5 Cyro treat barrel (reduces muzzel whip)
        #6 recalibrate gas bushing and shim OP rod/piston interface (reduce recoil and bolt slam)
        #7 Correct bullet weight and loading for rifleing twist rate
        At the end of his test he was shooting .5 MOA (from machine Rest)!
        He did not mention recoil buffers but at $14 a pop a person could afford to try one!
        The
        One other fellow, instead of paying $200 for an Accubar bought a $26 Leapers UTG Trirail mount and using (laser/flashlight rings?) attached a 6" 3/8th inch socket extension under his mini barrel and achieved an impressive reduction in group size!
        Last edited by kenno; 11-06-2009, 08:02 PM. Reason: Did web search
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        • #34
          Originally posted by kenno View Post
          BS whats your source on the recoil buffer and other parts?
          OK I did a web search and came-up with PerfectUnion.com,,they have the most excelent section on Ruger Minis I've ever seen!
          One fellow, Z-Man, posted a thread 7 years ago on his Mini-14 RR Project gun, it originaly shot 7" MOA groups, after some reasonably inexpensive mods it shot sub-MOA (from a machine rest)!
          #1 The main lessons learned is that a muzzle break will reduce group size by up to 50% to 3.5" (adds barrel mass, reduces whip)
          #2 cut barrel to 17.25" (with-out muzzel break, reduce group size to 1.75" (stiffens barrel)
          #3 glass bed action (ridgidity reduces movement and whip)
          #4 Trigger job
          #5 Cyro treat barrel (reduces muzzel whip)
          #6 recalibrate gas bushing and shim OP rod/piston interface (reduce recoil and bolt slam)
          #7 Correct bullet weight and loading for rifleing twist rate
          At the end of his test he was shooting .5 MOA (from machine Rest)!
          He did not mention recoil buffers but at $14 a pop a person could afford to try one!
          The
          One other fellow, instead of paying $200 for an Accubar bought a $26 Leapers UTG Trirail mount and using (laser/flashlight rings?) attached a 6" 3/8th inch socket extension under his mini barrel and achieved an impressive reduction in group size!
          Yeah I saw the same forum...great info.....I did have the barrel cryoed, and a trigger job I did myself.....as for the strut, I learned that the reason my issue didn't have one was simple: The 580 series with the thicker, tapered barrels don't need 'em...nor is there any noticeable difference w/a muzzle brake....

          As for the recoil buffer, it's cheap and cuts way down on target reacquisition during sustained fire.....I sighted the red dot in at 75 yds and the laser at 25 yds....optimal semi-auto battle ranges, respectively.....

          At around 100yds (in my opinion, a bit outside medium active range), I was gettin' around a 3 to 4 MOA....and I think mostly due to the non-telescopic scope...plenty good for battle without turning my rig into an anchor.....

          I got the 6pk of buffers at the local armorer for barter (fixed a sink trap), and had him cryo the rig.......
          "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

          "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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          • #35
            Originally posted by kenno View Post
            BS whats your source on the recoil buffer and other parts?
            OK I did a web search and came-up with PerfectUnion.com,,they have the most excelent section on Ruger Minis I've ever seen!
            One fellow, Z-Man, posted a thread 7 years ago on his Mini-14 RR Project gun, it originaly shot 7" MOA groups, after some reasonably inexpensive mods it shot sub-MOA (from a machine rest)!
            #1 The main lessons learned is that a muzzle break will reduce group size by up to 50% to 3.5" (adds barrel mass, reduces whip)
            #2 cut barrel to 17.25" (with-out muzzel break, reduce group size to 1.75" (stiffens barrel)
            #3 glass bed action (ridgidity reduces movement and whip)
            #4 Trigger job
            #5 Cyro treat barrel (reduces muzzel whip)
            #6 recalibrate gas bushing and shim OP rod/piston interface (reduce recoil and bolt slam)
            #7 Correct bullet weight and loading for rifleing twist rate
            At the end of his test he was shooting .5 MOA (from machine Rest)!
            He did not mention recoil buffers but at $14 a pop a person could afford to try one!
            The
            One other fellow, instead of paying $200 for an Accubar bought a $26 Leapers UTG Trirail mount and using (laser/flashlight rings?) attached a 6" 3/8th inch socket extension under his mini barrel and achieved an impressive reduction in group size!
            Kenno

            Of interest you may want to look at these sites/threads as well:

            http://xcolony.com/x/showthread.php?t=3103

            http://www.perfectunion.com/vb/showthread.php?t=43581

            http://www.ruger-mini-14-firearms.co...ccessories.php

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            • #36
              Thanks BB
              I have been to the gunsmith's website before, I like his work but don't have that kind of money.
              As to the $120 H-Bar I'll install a $26 Leapers Trirail and a $50 flash hider instead. The M-1 Carbine sight looks great, I'll have to find one.
              I'll spring the $100 for a trigger job/buffer and call it good.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by kenno View Post
                Thanks BB
                I have been to the gunsmith's website before, I like his work but don't have that kind of money.
                As to the $120 H-Bar I'll install a $26 Leapers Trirail and a $50 flash hider instead. The M-1 Carbine sight looks great, I'll have to find one.
                I'll spring the $100 for a trigger job/buffer and call it good.
                I went the same route with the Leapers Tri-rail and flashhider if you did not read into the HAR Bar thread. Accuracy Systems does carry a converted M-1 sight for the Mini-14 about half way down the page of the previous link. They also carry the "Buffertech" buffer as well on the same page. Let us know how your Mini shoots after you install your homemade Accu-Strut.

                Here's a source for the Tri-rails:

                http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/SCP068-6.html

                http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/SCP069-6.html

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                • #38
                  I was going to:
                  Install Trirail
                  install muzzle break
                  get a trigger job done
                  Then my wife reminded me that Christmas fast approches
                  Il be lucky if I can afford the muzzle break!
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                  • #39
                    Nice

                    Very nice setup Big_Saw.

                    A short Ruger story, My Mini-14 malfuntioned and needed serious work. I had owned it for 10 years and many thousands of rounds. I sent it to Ruger and for the price of shipping, they replaced the entire bolt assembly. Fantastic service and now I have nearly new gun.

                    Enjoy yours.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mungo View Post
                      Very nice setup Big_Saw.

                      A short Ruger story, My Mini-14 malfuntioned and needed serious work. I had owned it for 10 years and many thousands of rounds. I sent it to Ruger and for the price of shipping, they replaced the entire bolt assembly. Fantastic service and now I have nearly new gun.

                      Enjoy yours.
                      Thanks...fell in love the first time I handled one on the boat...never a fan of the M16/AR15 variants (no offense, AR freaks :D ) ...but traded my M249 fetish in happily when the issue locker popped open and I fondled a heavily customized mini...my personal rig ain't selective fire, or quite as stout or pricey, but it's just as pretty and a helluva rig, IMHO....
                      "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                      "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                      • #41
                        BS
                        How's that ATI stock holding-up?
                        I was thinking of getting an Aim Tech scout rail handguard but they cost nearly as much as an ATI stock. Since i am a LH shooter I am a bit concerned about the ATI stock hinge placement. So I am still concidering a Tapco Fusion
                        I might go with a Choate fixed pistol grip stock and attach a verticle foregrip instead.
                        Last edited by kenno; 11-27-2009, 03:51 PM.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by kenno View Post
                          BS
                          How's that ATI stock holding-up?
                          I was thinking of getting an Aim Tech scout rail handguard but they cost nearly as much as an ATI stock. Since i am a LH shooter I am a bit concerned about the ATI stock hinge placement. So I am still concidering a Tapco Fusion
                          I might go with a Choate fixed pistol grip stock and attach a verticle foregrip instead.
                          Man, I love it...our issue weaps were mounted on Tapco Fusion platforms, and I was sold, until I groped a mini on an ATI....the ATI has my vote...twice....dunno 'bout the lefty scenario, though.....but with my stock fully extended (normal for me), I'd think the brass would fly easily clear....
                          "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                          "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                          • #43
                            I am torn between several stocks:

                            A Choate non-folding pistol grip, almost perfect because models fit the Mini and 10-22, the buttstock seems durable but it is has no Picatinny rails, so I'd have to buy more stuff, do more work to install verticale fore grips.

                            The Tapco Fusion because it does not have the stock hinge trunion block on the LEFT side to interfer with my trigger finger!

                            The Cristie Super Stock, comes with all the bells and whistles installed, but it is a poly material stock and might not take camo paint.

                            The ATI stock, hinge trunion on left side.

                            My biggest concern is if that tube that supports the collapaseable stocks are strong enough to take a beating!
                            Last edited by kenno; 11-29-2009, 06:55 PM.
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                            • #44
                              Dupe post.
                              The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.

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                              • #45
                                Have you had a chance to grope any of the stocks you're considering? I fired off a mag today goofy (lefty), and had no problems other than seeing brass shoot past my LOS...my mini puts 'em straight and far at 3:00 every time....I even crammed my butt all the way to the first position for a coupla rnds....I won't lie...at that position, you can feel the case fly past, so it's a bit unnerving, but still a clear ejection....
                                "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                                "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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