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Last edited by bug_out; 12-16-2008, 07:01 PM.Μολὼν λαβέ
"The founding fathers made the right to bear arms the second amendment for a reason. It's the one that protects all your other freedoms, which aren't worth the parchment they're printed on if you don't have the means to defend them." Penn Jillette
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
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Good to know, i was actually considering a rock river.
I will check yours out tonight, will do some research.
Re: bans etc.. it may happen sooner than later... gun sales are through the roof from what I have heard a 20 year high or something.WHAT IF THE AMERICA YOU KNEW, WAS ABOUT TO CHANGE?
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Just took a quick look... a bit pricey i think it's a $1k gun all day long isn't it?WHAT IF THE AMERICA YOU KNEW, WAS ABOUT TO CHANGE?
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*******************Last edited by bug_out; 12-16-2008, 07:01 PM.Μολὼν λαβέ
"The founding fathers made the right to bear arms the second amendment for a reason. It's the one that protects all your other freedoms, which aren't worth the parchment they're printed on if you don't have the means to defend them." Penn Jillette
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Benjamin FranklinComment
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*******************Last edited by bug_out; 12-16-2008, 07:02 PM.Μολὼν λαβέ
"The founding fathers made the right to bear arms the second amendment for a reason. It's the one that protects all your other freedoms, which aren't worth the parchment they're printed on if you don't have the means to defend them." Penn Jillette
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Benjamin FranklinComment
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I completely disagree with the OP. In my experience with Colt, Bushy, and Rock Rivers are some of, if not the best rifles in the market. For the most part the brand are all about the same in quality. Stag offers a Left handed ejection for the leftys which is nice. A good AR even m4 type can be had for less than 900.
recommanded brands-
Bushmaster
Colt
LMT
CMMG
DPMS
Stag
Olympic Arms
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*******************Last edited by bug_out; 12-16-2008, 07:02 PM.Μολὼν λαβέ
"The founding fathers made the right to bear arms the second amendment for a reason. It's the one that protects all your other freedoms, which aren't worth the parchment they're printed on if you don't have the means to defend them." Penn Jillette
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Benjamin FranklinComment
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L.W.R.C., hands down.
Vltor with a P.W.S. piston conversion.
Z.M. Weapons LR-300.Comment
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What I know about AR-15 guns wouldn't fill a thimble so I am open to qualified experience here. I have an opportunity to purchase up to four assembled AR-15 clone shorties in .223 for $725 each. Now this is as cheap as I can part one together though I can't say I have ever done so. I have no real affection for the little .223 ammunition but this is a tempting offer and could move my gun preparations dramatically forward.
I need your opinion as I simply lack enough knowledge to know what I am doing here. If you were me, knowing my preparations, would you consider this offer?
Arranging FFL transfers would be done with my local gun dealer? I have never done this before, what is required?
The guns are unfired with Galati International A-2 carry handle uppers with ER Shaw heavy 16" barrels, Essential Arms lower with six position collapsible stocks. Includes sling and a 30-rd magazine each.
Now I am a big guy, 6'5" at 323lbs. I love long arms but have never used something this small, almost a carbine. This works for many people I realize but am I kidding myself I won't be annoyed by the small frame size?
Whatever you wish to share with me would be helpful.Comment
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I'm not qualified to comment on this at all, but I just wanted to notate that I want you on my side haha, and I vote you to be an enforcer :PWHAT IF THE AMERICA YOU KNEW, WAS ABOUT TO CHANGE?
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I didn't mean to get in a pissing match either. I thinks theres tons of quality at a much lower price and just wanted to pass it on. As for qouting ar15.com just wanted to post it to help some folks with questions. Theres ton of good info there.Comment
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*******************Last edited by bug_out; 12-16-2008, 07:02 PM.Μολὼν λαβέ
"The founding fathers made the right to bear arms the second amendment for a reason. It's the one that protects all your other freedoms, which aren't worth the parchment they're printed on if you don't have the means to defend them." Penn Jillette
Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
Benjamin FranklinComment
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Except maybe a Kalishnikov. I own 3 and I would stake my life on their funtionality even when filled with sand and mud. The calibre is a drawback though. Even with my good reloads.Originally posted by beebopcopComment
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I am going to toss some petrol on the fire. I cannot understand the facination with the Stoner design. (AR) I have only owned 3 firearms in my life that I have gotten rid of. The first was a Jennings J-22. No need to explain why on that one. The second was a Mini-14. For fear of offending anyone, I will not comment on the Mini-14. My AR was an Olympic Arms. I was less then impressed with it, and when I factored in the price, I considered it a mid 80's Jaguar. Nice status symbol, but functionally it left a lot to be desired. After about $300.00 in smithy fees and 4 trips, I sold it as is. Maybe I had a lemon.Comment
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I don't know what to say Rusty. I guess there are good and bad in them all. Personally I like a Mini-14. I have had two and wouldn't mind owning one again. They used to be carried by the NC Highway Patrol and are still in service with some departments across the country.
BeebopcopThe strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas JeffersonComment
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