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  • #46
    Country there is no problem with the recoil. It is my hand and fingers are not strong enough to pull back on the lever nor push the trigger back without pain in my index finger. This one was no problem. And yes I did get a great price on it. I have used my husband's 45 many times but the trigger is the problem now. This one though it is a 380 is great for concealed carry. I will be doing some target practice with it next week. And I am going to take the 22 with me as well to see how I do with that also. I really hope I can still shoot with the 22 but haven't tried yet.

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    • #47
      AJ, you might also consider taking your LCP and other guns you have trouble pulling the trigger on to a gunsmith and ask them about doing a trigger job and lightening the pull weight. Don't get it to light as it can become a "hair trigger" but lightening them some might give you relief.

      Making the slide easier to pull back and cycle is a different story. In that case the best option might be a small compact revolver like say a Ruger LCR or Lady Smith in .38 Special which is quite similar to your .380 LCP. Just food for thought.
      I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you!

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      • #48
        Originally posted by CountryGuy View Post
        AJ, you might also consider taking your LCP and other guns you have trouble pulling the trigger on to a gunsmith and ask them about doing a trigger job and lightening the pull weight. Don't get it to light as it can become a "hair trigger" but lightening them some might give you relief.

        Making the slide easier to pull back and cycle is a different story. In that case the best option might be a small compact revolver like say a Ruger LCR or Lady Smith in .38 Special which is quite similar to your .380 LCP. Just food for thought.
        Never thought about taking my Ruger to a gun smith. I had a neighbor that was transfered as he was going to see if he could fit my gun with some grips to see if that would make the slide easier. I could ask a gun smith about that as well.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Mangler View Post
          As an experiment, so I could become familiar with the realities of concealed carry, I carried my Taurus PT-11 .45 for a year. However, it was so cumbersome trying to be a responsible gun owner and try to effectively conceal carry a large frame 45 that I didn’t last six months.

          Every workday I had to leave the firearm in my vehicle. I was reluctant to leave a loaded gun protected by a pane of glass, so I unloaded and locked it each time. I could have purchased a safe for the car, but then I would need one for each vehicle.

          Going out for Friday night fish and a beer required me to leave it at home, because our law says you can’t have any alcohol in your system while in possession of a loaded firearm.

          Trying to actually conceal a 45 is problematic. I don’t normally wear a suit coat or jacket at work, so conceal carrying it under my shirt was pointless; it was not concealed.

          Fully loaded the PT-11 weighs 4 pounds. Having that hang off my belt was unbelievably uncomfortable after only a few days. It has front sights, rear sights, corners, edges, and a safety and hammer, which snagged on everything. My habits had to change, so I did not use my hip to hold open a door while my hands were full. Sitting in my vehicle was uncomfortable due to the extra space the firearm takes up.

          I settled on putting my firearm in my GHB and leaving it in my vehicle. Most of the time I am in a facility that does not allow it anyway, but I can still get to a firearm within a few minutes. It won’t help in a quick draw situation, but it is what it is.
          factory specs say that the PT11 weighs 22 ozs. 4 lbs is 64 ozs. So you're claiming the gun holds 42 ozs of ammo? if so, you're full of it. As a skinny 17 year old kid, i used to conceal a 7.5" barreled .44 Navy cap and ball. I wore it Calvarly draw position, behind my hip, under a hung out shirt. on a motorcycle, even. I am 6 ft tall, and can sit down just fine with a 1911 worn at the navel. It' can be fast drawn just fine, too. It's just a question of rotating it enough to put the muzzle into the crease between your thigh and pelvis.

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          • #50
            I should have made clear that I was commenting on the weight of the loaded pistol, two spare magazines, and the holster. If I am off by several ounces so be it. My point is, for an overweight old man, it is not comfortable to carry at the beltline.
            If it was man made it can be man re-made.

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            • #51
              I celebrate diversity. My usual EDC choices range between CZ 97BD, CZ PO1 Omega, Browning High or Hi Power, 1911-A1 and S&W M 59. The 97 BD, PO1 Omega and the M 59 have decocker ability which is nice.

              Everyone has an opinion and mine is due to the heavy trigger pull weight, I'm not a striker fire person. My money, so my opinion is the only one that counts.

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              • #52
                by Tugaloo..

                I'm not a striker fire person. My money, so my opinion is the only one that counts.
                Amen on that!! Amen on that!!!



                I have a S&W .40 cal striker tool and It is ok...but I am accustomed to my .357 Mag. GP 100 and also my 1911. My Kimber has a very very nice trigger pull for a 1911...but the Charles Daley ..my other 1911 is also nice..but not quite up to the Kimber.
                I too am not partial to the striker fired types.

                Been Switching to my Charles Daley this weekend instead of my GP 100.

                This one here but without the fiber optic fron sight...never liked those. Prefer the standard metallic front sight.

                Charles Daly // 1911 Superior Grade Pistol (Blued) 45ACP/5"BBL

                Kimber..

                This one here..

                Kimber America | Custom TLE II

                I like it but it will not feed cast bullets. Mayhap if it is broken in a number or rounds down the road. It sure is tight. One can tell the difference in the two 1911s and the machine tolerances between the two. The Kimber is definitely tighter...definitely.

                I like a well made proven practical tool in anything..but am not into a lot of chrome or bling...no use for that.




                Orangetom
                Not an Ishmaelite.
                Last edited by orangetom1999; 10-01-2021, 01:38 PM.

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                • #53
                  My concealed carry is "Freedom Arms" 4 3/4" .475 LINEBAUGH
                  One day you eat the chicken.....next day the left-over chicken.....next five days you eat chicken feathers, head and feet.

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                  • #54
                    Orangetom1999,
                    I have NRA/DCM WWII military surplus 1911-A1s bought in the early 60s. They have do a sweet trigger. To improve accuracy, I modified one with a Bomar barrel and bushing.

                    The Kimber's dislike of wadcutters is unusual, it could be the shape of the integral ramp? Is it one shape of wadcutter or all of them?

                    Originally posted by Sourdough View Post
                    My concealed carry is "Freedom Arms" 4 3/4" .475 LINEBAUGH
                    How is recovering from recoil? I'm not as they say recoil sensitive; OTOH, recovering from muzzle rise with the big hammers is not as quick as lighter calibers.
                    I prefer the ability to use a one hand grip. In a serious social encounter, I want to be able to use cover to protect offering too big a target. At the range, a two hand grip and torso parallel to the target improves accuracy and multiple target engagement speed.


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                    • #55
                      Tugaloo...these are not cast lead waddcutters...they are cast round noses. I am thinking that this tool is not really broken in as of yet and I make no plans to do anything until I have put more rounds through it and then try the cast lead round noses again.

                      I bought a box of 500 cast lead round noses years ago and occasionally reload some for these 1911s.

                      They work fine in the Charles Daley 1911...and thus illustrating to me the difference in the tolerances.

                      Nonetheless I am thinking I need to put more rounds through it as she is not quite broken in as of yet.


                      Thanks
                      Orangetom
                      Not an Ishmaelite.
                      Last edited by orangetom1999; 10-01-2021, 01:37 PM.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Sourdough View Post
                        My concealed carry is "Freedom Arms" 4 3/4" .475 LINEBAUGH
                        Wow...that is way too much for me.


                        I own two .41 Magnum revolvers and that is as big as I care to go.

                        I also purchased the lever rifle in .41 Magnum. I have done the same in my .357 Magnum calibrations....revolvers..purchased the lever rifle for that calibration as well.

                        I verily like the idea of a rifle and pistol in the same calibration.

                        And with my aging eyes I will not be making any 500 or 600 yard shots....100 to 150 max for this olde dog.

                        Also ...when one gets into the big pistol calibers...ammo is sold in boxes of 20...not 50 and it is expensive.

                        I have learned to roll my own ammo.


                        No...not for me ... .475 is way to much for me...and my modest appetites.

                        But Bon Appetite.


                        Orangetom
                        Not an Ishmaelite.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by orangetom1999 View Post
                          Tugaloo...these are not cast lead waddcutters...they are cast round noses. I am thinking that this tool is not really broken in as of yet and I make no plans to do anything until I have put more rounds through it and then try the cast lead round noses again.

                          I bought a box of 500 cast lead round noses years ago and occasionally reload some for these 1911s.

                          They work fine in the Charles Daley 1911...and thus illustrating to me the difference in the tolerances.

                          Nonetheless I am thinking I need to put more rounds through it as she is not quite broken in as of yet.


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                          Orangetom
                          Not an Ishmaelite.
                          I'd contact Kimber, they have an excellent customer service reputation and a quality product.

                          I prefer the .41 mag to others with the .357 a close second. It isn't the .44's recoil and is the .41's accuracy. Which easily could be explained as my .41 was "born" more accurate.

                          I used to race cars and with two identical stock vehicles, one was a car length plus in the quarter mile. The owners drove the other's car with pretty much the same results.

                          In today's climate of shortages and inflation, it was very wise to buy ammunition and reloading components pre-COVID,

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                          • #58
                            Wow Tugaloo!! You too have a .41 Magnum. Very good!! For some reason I was just never attracted to the .44 Mags of which so many were making a big fuss. Agree about the accuracy ...in any calibration.

                            Also agree about buying ammo and if you can reloading components...which reminds me ..I need to get on the ball in getting some more bullet selection. Getting low in some calibrations.

                            Problem is so many places are getting low stocks and not much chance of replenishment.

                            I have my doubts on what is really going on out here in that arena.


                            Of late I have been reloading solid copper bullets .308, 30.06, and .357 Mag. They are expensive but it is a special project.

                            Will eventually get solids iin .41 Mag as well.


                            Thanks,
                            Orangetom
                            Not an Ishmaelite.
                            Last edited by orangetom1999; 10-02-2021, 03:41 PM.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Tugaloo View Post
                              Orangetom1999,
                              I have NRA/DCM WWII military surplus 1911-A1s bought in the early 60s. They have do a sweet trigger. To improve accuracy, I modified one with a Bomar barrel and bushing.

                              The Kimber's dislike of wadcutters is unusual, it could be the shape of the integral ramp? Is it one shape of wadcutter or all of them?



                              How is recovering from recoil? I'm not as they say recoil sensitive; OTOH, recovering from muzzle rise with the big hammers is not as quick as lighter calibers.
                              I prefer the ability to use a one hand grip. In a serious social encounter, I want to be able to use cover to protect offering too big a target. At the range, a two hand grip and torso parallel to the target improves accuracy and multiple target engagement speed.

                              And what if you had long ago positioned your self, on planet earth where the only humans you had contact with, was the postman.....(roughly on average once a month).....???

                              So called preppers who have to be ready for gunfights, should revaluate their survival plan. Especially as we are rapidly approaching SHTF time.

                              I live in "wilderness" Alaska, and have for the last 52 years, of my 75 years on earth.
                              One day you eat the chicken.....next day the left-over chicken.....next five days you eat chicken feathers, head and feet.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Sourdough View Post
                                And what if you had long ago positioned your self, on planet earth where the only humans you had contact with, was the postman.....(roughly on average once a month).....???

                                So called preppers who have to be ready for gunfights, should revaluate their survival plan. Especially as we are rapidly approaching SHTF time.

                                I live in "wilderness" Alaska, and have for the last 52 years, of my 75 years on earth.
                                You didn't answer my question about recovering from recoil. I apologize if I touched a nerve.

                                I've shot quite a few of the big hammer pistols and there are videos on YouTube showing the muzzle rise from recoil. I used to compete at metallic silhouettes with a .30 Herrett, .357 Herrett, .264 Win Mag and others.

                                At SHTF time, the last thing I'd want in a combat environment is a revolver or a pistol. Not that they lack the power, they lack the round count and the effective range to reach out and touch someone at a few hundred yards or so. That is what folks will face in a SHTF world.

                                I'm not in Alaska where you see a postman once a month. OTOH, you'll never see senseless riots of today and all the rest of a SHTF world.
                                I have more concern for people who live near cities than where we live. Perhaps, sooner or later the scavengers will make it 17 miles from a small town. If that happens, a big hammer with a few rounds is lightweight compared to AKs, ARs, FALs etc. AKs and FALs are slow to reload as compared to the ARs push a button, drop and slap in another 20 or 30 rounds.


                                Although, I'm not in Alaska, here is what wanders close to my place at night:
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                                It's a boar or male and he's a lot bigger now than in 2019.

                                As my Pitts need to go do their business at night before bed; I take a 12 gauge with 3" slugs. Here we also have mountain lions and bobcats. As a mountain lion charge speed is 30 MPH.
                                I also have trail cam pictures of cougars and bobcats.


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