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  • #16
    It's called Metamucil, myakka..... Metamucil.....

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    • #17
      it lives!!!!!
      "Oh, America. I wish I could tell you that this was still America, but I've come to realize that you can't have a country without people. And there are no people here. No, my friends. This is now the United States of Zombieland"

      "The constitution does not guarantee our safety, only our liberty!" Robert Steed before congress 3/2013

      Skills Beats Stuff

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      • #18
        80% of the time my weapon of choice for concealed carry is the S&W Shield with a Bianchi IWB leather holster. The rare occasions that I am in a suit then it is a Kimber 1911 with a Galco Miami Vice shoulder rig. The rest of the time it would be a Ruger SP101. Jezcrusen, I was always a S&W revolver guy until I ran across this gun for a really good deal. I figured at worst, if I didn't like it, it would be very easy to get my money back out of it. I was sold on it after the first trip to the range. It felt good in my hand and shot even better. I have a ankle holster that I usually carry it in.
        Anyone that would give up freedom for security, deserves neither. ~ Ben Franklin

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        • #19
          Dittos on the SP101, did you get the 3" bbl? I have always wanted one but the one I got was one of the first ones with 2" barrel an to get a center shot at 25 yards on a E silhouette I had to aim 10" low right at the the waist level and it would hit center so I dumped it.

          Don't be afraid to run rounds on it, one was subjected to a 10,000 round run of 357 Mag at the factory and it was still in time.

          Historically many fixed sight revolvers don't shoot where they are pointed and the Rugers were not immune from that but what impressed me was the first GP100 3" fixed sight I got was dead on at 25 yards so I got another one quickly and it shoots 1 inch left at 25 yards.

          The U S Border Patrol tested Ruger Security Six against S&W Mod 65s to 10,000 rounds 358 Mag 158 gr. JHP (two each) circa 1985 time frame. The Mod 65s had to be rebuilt at 500 and 1000 rounds being out of time and the guns were deadlined at 1500 rounds as the largest hand made would not bring it into time.

          There were two contracts for (if I remember correctly) for a total of 5000 guns and they were configured for round butts thusly a round butt grip could be had for smaller hands and the bigger target style for the other guys could be fitted. That was the first contract where the specs were written to try and make the guns as comfortable to the user as possible.

          The Rugers went 10,000 rounds and were still in time. A follow on test was conducted for INS and the requirements were 2.5 to 3" barrel and full ejector travel to remove 357 Mag cases. Ruger submitted 3" barrels and passed the 10,000 easily and INS bought 500 of them for their plain clothes personnel.

          When they make a production run they will put in extra guns in case some get washed out in production and I think they started out with 515 for that contract, and 502 made it through final inspection. 500 went to INS and two were put up for the Ruger Collector's Assn. I was lucky enough to get one of the two over runs. That makes it a very rare gun because unless something has changed the USBP did not sell used guns but destroyed them.

          At the start of that testing I had like 15 S&Ws and no Rugers at all. After the test I dumped 10 of the S&Ws and bought Rugers. I kept two K22s, a Mod 36 still unfired, a Mod 10 2" and a Mod 15 4". Never got around to selling the 10 15 and 36.

          UPDATE: Jan 1, 2018, I just scored a 3" SP101 and immediately knew the factory grips were not going to be comfortable so I ordered Hogue mono and that made all the difference. I also got my third GP100 3".that came with a Ruger Factory Grip (compact) and it feels quite good. I also got a thousand Sierra 180 gr. FPJ competition bullets and I have them loaded on top of 11.5 gr 2400. Have not chronographed them yet. These were celebration guns for surviving triple bypass surgery on Oct. 2. When I do I will get back with you guys and let you know the results.
          Last edited by Hummer; 01-01-2018, 09:38 AM.
          Distinguished Rifleman High Power , Distinguished Rifleman Smallbore Prone, Presidents Hundred (Rifle), Palma Teams Member (2), Dewar Teams Member (2), Member 4 Man National Championship Smallbore AnySight Team, Certified Small Arms and Ammunition Test Director Aberdeen Proving Ground , Eagle Scout, AC4HT, NRA Benefactor Member, Firefighter I, Shriner

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          • #20
            Mine is a 3" bbl. I had to hunt around for the 3". Two-inch bbls were in plentiful supply. It was a handful using 158gr .357mag rounds with the stock grip! The Hogue monogrip tamed it right down. I intend on replacing the front sight with a hi-vis one. Being stainless, it gets lost and hard to see in almost all light conditions.

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            • #21
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              I'm a big guy. I normally carry twins.

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              • #22
                A fella I know carries a pair of Berettas. Haven't seen him engage a target but he claims a high degree of lethality.

                Browning Hi Power in a cross draw for me for the time being.

                O.W.
                Things are seldom what they seem.

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                • #23
                  Claims of lethality etc are not very wise. Especially when they surface in court while you defend yourself following a lethal force attack.
                  I'd much rather explain carrying two, rather than explain that.

                  Originally posted by Oscar Wilde View Post
                  A fella I know carries a pair of Berettas. Haven't seen him engage a target but he claims a high degree of lethality.

                  Browning Hi Power in a cross draw for me for the time being.

                  O.W.

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                  • #24
                    I carry a CS 45 and two extra mags. I must be too old, how on earth can anyone get used to DAO pistols?

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                    • #25
                      Most of the time a Sig 938 in a Cross Bread IWB holster, use to carry 1911 but it is just too heavy.
                      Car gun is either Glock 22, 19, or 27.

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                      • #26
                        I carried a Gov't Model 45 for years in a Hume Agent 9 belt holster and it kept it close and concealed while wearing a jacket. I have also carried Rugers, Smiths etc and was strongly considering a Ruger SP101 3" bbl.

                        Then I had a chance to fondle one of these:

                        http://eu.glock.com/english/glock36.htm

                        I have one on the way with extra extended mag. I think that will be my final acquisition. I will likely add another sight system. Will wait to see.
                        Distinguished Rifleman High Power , Distinguished Rifleman Smallbore Prone, Presidents Hundred (Rifle), Palma Teams Member (2), Dewar Teams Member (2), Member 4 Man National Championship Smallbore AnySight Team, Certified Small Arms and Ammunition Test Director Aberdeen Proving Ground , Eagle Scout, AC4HT, NRA Benefactor Member, Firefighter I, Shriner

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Hummer View Post
                          I carried a Gov't Model 45 for years in a Hume Agent 9 belt holster and it kept it close and concealed while wearing a jacket. I have also carried Rugers, Smiths etc and was strongly considering a Ruger SP101 3" bbl.

                          Then I had a chance to fondle one of these:

                          http://eu.glock.com/english/glock36.htm

                          I have one on the way with extra extended mag. I think that will be my final acquisition. I will likely add another sight system. Will wait to see.
                          Currently, my personal best shooter is a Glock 35. I carried it on duty for 15 years. It will always be my first choice for CCW. I have however gone retard a few times and carried my Mark 23!!!! Bahahahaha!

                          -Buggy
                          I'm not a fatalist. I'm a realist.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Buggyout View Post
                            Currently, my personal best shooter is a Glock 35. I carried it on duty for 15 years. It will always be my first choice for CCW. I have however gone retard a few times and carried my Mark 23!!!! Bahahahaha!

                            -Buggy
                            You carried a Mark 23 concealed? That's almost like carrying an MP5 concealed. LOL! How did that work out for you?

                            Dale

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by dalewick View Post
                              You carried a Mark 23 concealed? That's almost like carrying an MP5 concealed. LOL! How did that work out for you?

                              Dale
                              Big man, big gun. I still have it AND an actual IWB holster for it! lol!

                              -Buggy
                              I'm not a fatalist. I'm a realist.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Buggyout View Post
                                Big man, big gun. I still have it AND an actual IWB holster for it! lol!

                                -Buggy
                                Hard to beat an H&K. My hat off to you for being able to pull off carrying a weapon built for offensive actions as a CCW. You can understand my desire for an H&K USP. Preferably a tactical. Mark 23 is a beautiful weapon. Me, envious much.

                                Dale

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