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    I wish I could take credit for this but I can't. This info is too good not to pass on. Hope you enjoy it.

    Retreat Security: I Am Your Worst Nightmare


    by Jeff T.

    I am the leader of a band of 8-to-12 looters. I have some basic military training. We move from place to place like locusts devouring everything in our path. My group is armed with light weapons and can develop and follow simple plans of attack. We take what we want by force of arms. We prefer none of our victims survive because that could cause problems for us in the future.

    It has been six months since the grid went down. You and the other five members of your party have settled into what may be a long grinding existence. The every day tasks of growing and gathering have now become routine. The news from the outside is extremely limited but you don’t really miss it much. Life is simple but physically demanding.

    Although things may seem stable you will need to keep your team focused and alert. This is your first and most important layer of defense. You should hold an immediate reaction drill once per week. Keep things simple. Practice a specific response to such threats as injury, fire, attack and evacuation. Despite the challenges you must maintain contact with those around you such as neighbors for vital clues that trouble is brewing. Regular monitoring the radio will be critical in providing an early warning of trouble. You may be able to safely interview refugees with risking your party. Keep in mind the information you get from them may not always be reliable.

    While you have been farming I have been learning the best tactics to employ to seize your property and your goods. I have been refining them since we hit the road right after the lights went out. I have conducted eight “hits” so far and have been successful seven times. Here are some of my “lessons learned”.

    Intelligence gathering and target selection is critical to my success. Targets include those who have large quantities of fuel, food and other valuable supplies. My posse is constantly questioning anyone and everyone we contact searching for this our next victim. Anyone who has ever had knowledge, even second hand, of your preparations is someone of interest to me. I may approach them directly or indirectly. If anyone knows something I will find out about it. Who seems well-fed? Who still has transportation? Who has lights? Who was prepared? Where are they exactly? Somebody talks, either in person or on the radio. They always do.

    We search for victims night and day. During the day we are listening for the sounds of machinery, cars, tractors, gunfire or generators. Day or night without a lot of wind those sounds can carry for miles. At night I look for any sort of light. Even a small flash indicates somebody with electricity and that means a rich target. I always have somebody listing to the scanner for any news, leads or insecure chatter.

    Operational Security is an important concept for your entire group to understand and maintain. If somebody outside your circle doesn’t have a real need to know about your plans, preparations or procedures then they shouldn’t know period. Develop a cover story and live it like was a bulletproof vest. It is no less important to your protection and survival. During an event you need to blend in with the surrounding environment. Carefully observe noise (such as generators and other engines) and light discipline especially at night. If you need to test fire weapons do it in one sequence to avoid a prolonged noise signature.

    Once I find and target you reconnaissance of your retreat is my next step. Only a fool would try to rush in and try to overwhelm a group of “survivalists”. We had a bad experience with that during our second hit. Now we spend at least a day or two trying to size up a large opportunity and the best way to take it down. I will observe retreat activity from a nearby-concealed position. I will get an idea of your numbers, weapons, routines and so much more by careful surreptitious observation. If your group seems alert, I will try and trigger a false alarm with a dog or child to watch your reaction to a threat. That helps me know how you respond, where you are strong and how to attack. I may also obtain a topographical map of the area to identify likely avenues of approach and potential escapes routes you will try to use. I may coerce your neighbors into uncovering a weak spot or access point or other important intelligence. I also have a Bearcat handheld scanner. I will be listening for any insecure chatter from your radios.

    Regular patrols at irregular intervals focused on likely observation points and avenues of approach could keep me at bay. You could put down sand or other soft soil in key choke points as a way of “recording” if anyone has recently traveled through the land. Dogs, with their advanced sense of hearing and smell are able to detect and alert you to intruders well in advance of any human. Motion sensing IR video cameras as a part of a security plan could play a part in your layered defense as long as you have power. A 24 hour manned observation point equipped with high quality optical tools is a must. It should be fortified and if possible concealed. It should have a weapon capable of reaching to the edges of your vision. Seismic intrusion devices, night vision and thermal imaging are phenomenal force multiplying tools. They can give you critical intelligence and warning. You should use them if you have them. Understand they are not fool proof and I can often neutralize them if I know you have them.

    These tools and techniques provide you reaction time. Time to plan your response and time to execute that plan. Recognize that a “defender” is always at a disadvantage. By definition a defender will be reacting to my attack. Modern warfare has emphasized the ability of the attacker to operate faster than opponents can react. This can be explained by the OODA loop. Below are the four steps of the classic OODA loop. These are the steps a defender goes through when under attack.

    1. Observing or noticing the attack.
    2. Orient to the direction, method and type of attack.
    3. Deciding what the appropriate response will be.
    4. Acting on that decision.

    As an attacker I will try and operate at a pace faster than you as a defender can adjust to. I will change my direction, pace, timing and method to force you to continue to process through the OODA loop. This creates confusion and wastes your precious reaction time. As a defender you will need to disrupt or reset your attackers timing with a counter-attack. When you are successful you become the attacker. Your defensive plans should utilize and exploit this concept. Here are a few scenarios:

    1. Snipe & Siege

    I will begin the attack when I can engage at least half of your party’s military age personnel in one coordinated effort. I will infiltrate my team into concealed positions around your retreat within 50 to 75 yards. I will target any identified leadership with the first volley. Two thirds of my people will be engaging personnel. The other group will target communications antennas, surveillance cameras and any visible lighting assets. I want your group unable to see, communicate or call for help. The members of my band will each fire two magazines in the initial exchange. Two thirds of my group will change to new concealed positions and wait. One third will fall back into an ambush of the most likely avenue of escape. We will stay concealed and wait until you come out to attend to your wounded and dead. We repeat the attack as necessary until any resistance is crushed.

    Ensure you adjust the landscape around your retreat so that I don’t have anyplace offering cover or concealment within 100 yards of your residence. You can create decorative masonry walls that can be used to offer cover for personnel close to your residence. Fighting positions can be built now and used as raised planting beds and then excavated for use in the future. These can be extended or reinforced after any significant event. These structures or other measures such as trenching must be sited carefully to avoid allowing them to be used effectively by an attacker if they are overrun.

    2. Trojan Horse

    For one hit we used an old UPS truck. We forced a refugee to drive it to the retreat gate. We concealed half our group inside the truck. The truck was hardened on the inside with some sandbags around the edges. The other half of our group formed an ambush concealed inside the tree line along the driveway. We killed the driver to make it look good and had one person run away. Those preppers almost waited us out. After nearly three hours they all walked slowly down the driveway. They were bunched up in a group intent on checking out the truck and driver. It was like shooting fish in a barrel.

    They could have worked together as group to sweep the area 360 degrees around the truck and they would have surely found us. A dog would have also alerted the residents to our presence. They could have taken measures to eliminate the vegetation offering us concealment on the road near the gate. They could have used CS gas or something similar to “deny” any suspicious areas. Lastly they could have done a “reconnaissance by fire”. Shooting into likely hiding spots, including the truck, trying to evoke a response. They should have established an over watch position with the majority of their group. This over watch group would have provided visual security and an immediate response if there were an attack. They were not expecting any additional threats. They didn’t consider that there might be additional danger lurking nearby aside from the truck and they died.

    3. Kidnap & Surrender

    A few weeks ago we surprised and captured a couple of women out tending a garden. It was totally by chance. We were traveling through a very rural area on our way to another town when somebody heard a tractor backfire. We immediately stopped and I sent a small team to recon the noise. They bumped into a small party tending a field at the edge of their retreat. They seized two women and immediately dragged them back to our vehicles. We began negotiations by sending a finger from each one back to the retreat under a white flag. The rest was easy.

    This didn’t need to happen. Better noise discipline would have kept us from discovering their retreat. Some simple boundary fencing or tangle foot could have delayed us. The women should have been armed and aware of such a threat. If they has established an over watch for the garden they could have engaged us before we took our hostages or at least alerted the others that there was a problem. They also could have had a quick reaction SOP developed prior to this incident. That Quick Reaction (QR) force could have followed the kidnappers back to our vehicles and set up an ambush of their own. Rural retreat security is a full time job. If you snooze you may lose everything.

    4. Fire and Maneuver

    I don’t like this option but sometimes the prize is just too tempting. We typically infiltrate quietly at night to prearranged start points. We begin our attack just before dawn when your senses are dulled by a long night watch or from sleep. Based on our reconnaissance we divided your retreat into positions or zones that need specific attention. We prepare for battle by using an air rifle to target any lights or cameras. Our first priority is to engage any LP/OP site and destroy or degrade them as much as possible. I split my forces into two supporting groups. One group keeps the target position under constant fire. The other group also fires and maneuvers, closing on the target and destroying it with gunfire or improvised weapons. Many times these positions only have one occupant and the task is relatively easy. Often these positions are easy to spot and are too far from each other to provide any effective mutual support. We will work from one position to the next. In the darkness and confusion most of the defenders are disoriented and ineffective. They fall like dominos. We have also used motorcycles to negotiate obstacles and speed through cuts in the perimeter fence. Then throw Molotov Cocktails into any defensive position as they roar past. If you fall back into your residence we will set up a siege. If we can maneuver close enough, perhaps by using a distraction, we will pump concentrated insecticide into your building or we may introduce LP gas from a portable tank into the house and ignite it with tracer fire.

    If there was enough warning time from your OP you could execute a pre-planned response. Your planned response should be simple, easy to understand and execute. Half your group occupies your fighting positions, two to a position. The rest of your party establishes an over watch and concentrate its fire at the enemies trying to fix your positions. If you had more than enough prepared positions the enemy might not know where to attack. It would also provide more flexibility in your defense based on the direction of attack. I would use Night Vision if available or illumination from flares or lights as a last resort. Rats hate light.

    Usually people keep main access points blocked from high-speed approach. Likely avenues of approach should also be blocked or choked and kept under observation. Remember though what keeps me out keeps you in. Typically the common techniques of parking vehicles in roadways will only delay my approach not stop it altogether. An ordinary 12-gauge shotgun, shooting slugs, can stop most types of non-military vehicles at close range.

    Don’t forget the threat of fire or other non-traditional weapons in your defensive plans.

    You could create the illusion of a “dead end” for your main access road by positioning a burned out trailer home or a couple of burned out cars at the false “end” of the road. Concealing the fact that the road actually continues to your residence.

    Lastly, develop a plan to evacuate and evade capture. When faced with a significantly superior force it may be the only viable option. This should include simple, reliable communications or signals such as three blasts on a dog whistle. Your fighting positions and barriers need to be constructed to allow coordinated withdrawal in an emergency. You should establish a rally point and time limit to assemble. I believe this should be a priority in your practice drills. During a real emergency you may be able to rally, rearm and plan your own version of the “snipe and siege” to retake your retreat.

    Key messages:
    Your rural retreat defense can be visualized as a set of concentric rings:

    Location – Location – Location: High and remote are best
    OPSEC – Think of it as a form of armor or shield: Practice it and protect it.
    Observation Post / Listening Post: Your first best chance to counter attack
    Gates / Fences / other barriers: May slow me down. Might keep you in.
    Fighting positions: Must provide mutual support and allow for evacuation.
    Residence: Last line. Don’t become trapped
    People, Planning and Practice


    An aggressive and unexpected counter strike can win the battle.
    Stay alert for multiple threats or diversionary tactics.
    Criminals excel at feigning weakness to lower your guard.

    Don’t underestimate me.
    The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson

  • #2
    Living alone the key word for me is "Don't get trapped" and that's why I have a tunnel leading into the woods and 100 feet away from my home... before they get to me they would have to get past all my booby traps and fences, if they cut my public power supply then my emergency supply would go on and also I would be alerted of what is going on.

    About all that they could do is to set my house on fire in order to try and kill me hence the scape tunnel and the extra supply at two points up in the hills.

    With the above in mind I have two water sprinklers on the roof and no way for them to cut off my water supply........about all that they could do is to snipe away the sprinklers, hummmmmmmmmm I have to think about this one.
    "If you don't hold it, you don't own it"... Ponce


    • #3
      Good post BBC, makes one think.

      My BOL is very rural and I have several "like minded" neighbors, I think I am going to print this out so we can talk and discuss how to secure the area
      better and work on a outside threat as a team then go back to our hide outs.
      I do not know what my neighbor has,I don't ask him and he don't ask me but I feel we would have each others back.

      I am sure there will be thugs steeling and looting when TSHTF and it will be up to what is left of us good guys who have prepaired to make sure they are stopped.

      Ponce mentioned a tunnel and I have thought about adding an secret escape route also, what is a good safe and cost effictive way to make a tunnel?

      I was thinking 36" dia corrigated metal colvert pipe with 4 feet of cover.

      What have you used for you tunnel? if you can share the info?


      • #4
        I don't have a tunnel or maybe you were asking ponce. I don't see myself ever having a tunnel in my current living situation, but I think that they are a great idea if you can pull it off.
        The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson


        • #5
          Good Post... 100 yards is a joke IMHO. If it gets to Rouges and bandits crossing thru the landscape, I want a least a 300 yards perimeter, prefer 500 yards. If the lanscape will allow it. Hinding in a "Holla" is death. If my team is of Platoon size or that of a small company I don't care if I am seen. (with-in reason of course) Again good post BB
          "And with a collection of minds and talent, they survived"


          • #6
            Excellent post. Really makes a person think. I humbly thank you.
            What part of "shall not be infringed" do you NOT understand?


            • #7
              This is such an excellent piece. Why? Because, as I have noticed, too often it seems people are caught up in the romanticised ideas of living like bandits in a fallen world. They forget this is survival and it's dirty, dangerous and anything but pleasant.

              Such a wealth of knowledge in the above information. Thank you for the realistic, although unpleasant representation.


              • #8
                36" for the tunnel made with old PVC from a construction site that failed, and is not 100 yards but 100 feet..........with this I can either keep on running deeper into the woods or come at them from behind.

                I just send yesterday from "Sportsmans Guide" for three connections that you can turn of and off for up to 100 feet with a remote control........I will use them for more lights at a couple of blank spots.

                At the these two blank spots I have a 3X4 mirrors attached to a tree that gives me a indirect line of site but not at night.

                Remember to always have a "back up" for your back up and if possible then a third back up.
                "If you don't hold it, you don't own it"... Ponce


                • #9
                  Great post BBC if only to help some gain the mindset of the potentially horrific condition about to befall us. While we pray for otherwise prepare for the WORST.

                  Things are seldom what they seem.


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pathfinder3081 View Post
                    Good Post... 100 yards is a joke IMHO. If it gets to Rouges and bandits crossing thru the landscape, I want a least a 300 yards perimeter, prefer 500 yards. If the lanscape will allow it. Hinding in a "Holla" is death. If my team is of Platoon size or that of a small company I don't care if I am seen. (with-in reason of course) Again good post BB
                    If the attackers had any military training and used firearms semi-regularly even a clear LOS for 300-500 yards would just make it easier for them to pick people off in your group. I hate to say it but most small groups would be toast in the scenario starting this post. One of the best things I think a group could do, besides go unnoticed as much as possible, would be to be in a location and have fortifications making it much more difficult to observe your group size/strength/resources so that a smart raider would not deem the risk worth the reward. As an attacker if I couldn't verify how many were in a group and what they had that I wanted I would not engage. Make it appear the attack is more costly than the resources gainable.
                    Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim.
                    ~ Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you.-Ovid

                    Mus uni non fidit antro.
                    ~ A mouse does not rely on just one hole.-Plautus

                    Non semper erit aestas
                    ~ It will not always be summer.


                    • #11
                      The figures could be argued to no end, but still an excellent breakdown...thanks, BBC...
                      "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                      "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat


                      • #12
                        Very Ugly situation

                        Where I live, how my wife and family are I can only hope that my neighbors will band together until law and order are reset.

                        I am urban, not rural so running is not really an option. I would like to think that I, myself, am well prepared but if running up against a large force I would have to pull my neighbors into it, unite or fall individually I guess.


                        • #13
                          I have seen this post before on another site
                          it was about two weeks ago. From what i remember the general consensus from those who had actual combat experience was rejection. To entertain the idea that an organized, disciplined and trained force would make these amature mistakes was a joke. Thats what I remember and would agree as well. But it is a good read.


                          • #14
                            Okay as I read this I was thinking surely he meant 100 yards (which is still not enough)....but now that you clarified that I have to say that my son who is 7 could shoot you with his little ar7 from 33 yards away when you come out of your little tunnel. So let me get this straight, you plan to come out 33 yards away from your house and sneak up from behind your attackers. My Ar15 can reach out to 300 yards with iron sites easily so I doubt I will be sitting in your front yard in a lawn chair with coozie trying to attack you. You might want to reevaluate your security efforts.


                            • #15
                              I see that no one has posted in this thread since November of 2009 -- I am just now getting around to reading it - since being away for several months -- I plan to print this one out - read it frequently to burn into my mind these important facts that just may save my life -- I certainly do not think like a mugger - thug - or even a desperate - scared - hungry sick person -- I am a small framed but strong female and my physical strength may not be enough to protect myself -- so the best thing is to be smart - be careful - be prepared - and be gone -- Thank you ever so much for sharing this info