A real eye opener for me

[bambam55]

hey bud not all us yankees are alike!!! ur talking about a bunch or city folk that have they're heads stuck so far up their asses they have no clue, and it's all because of the all mitey dollar, us country folk up in N.H. are the same as u and all yankee country folk in yankee land all feel like u do, most of us have little liking for the city folk, the done all and know all people, they come up from the cities buy our lands and post it so new englanders can't the property that we've hunted and fished on all our lives. the problem is that like I've said before they don't have a clue. bambam55

[Pioneer]

Reading everyone's thoughts on this was interesting, to say the least. It's something I think we all think about but you folks put it to words. If we all knew exactly what was going to happen and where and all the other things we think about, we would all be in a better situation to make our plan of surviving the sh*t with a more educated plan. I know some of the people here went so far as to find the best possible places to live with the highest probability being in their favor and to me, that is probably the best course of action one can take. The unfortunate side of this, in my opinion, is too many people still need to work and support their families so they were not able to do this. Then there are those who wouldn't want to just be too far away from their other family members.

For me and my choices, I know I could have found a better location to live and try to survive the worst possible scenarios that could happen, as many others, too. That is why we have various BOLs with caches to get us there, either by foot, horseback or by BOVs. This, in essence, seems to be a waste of precious money in some ways because in my situation, I know if the time came for me to go to another BOL and I was able to take my truck to get there, I wouldn't be needing all the other items in the caches that are there for being able to make it on foot or horseback.

Like most people, I'd hate to have to leave my home/BOL #1. I am prepared to do so if necessary but the reason to leave would depend on too many factors to get into here. I'm one of those people who, in my situation and BOL, do not se too much of the need, in many cases, to need to fight anyone over anything. I can personally say this because for one, if people are not used to the altitude of nearly 2 miles above sea level, they generally can not out-pace a turtle. If anything were to happen during the winter months, 98% of the people would not be able to make it anywhere near this place with the -30˚F times we have. This figure is without a wind-chill.

What I do hope for is, first, to survive of course and secondly, to be able to have contact with other survivors who would make it too. This is highly unlikely, for me. I will have contact with those within 6 miles of me but those folks are not 1/10th as prepared as I am and I'm not nearly finished!

I will be purchasing few ham radios by the Middle of March 2010 and passing the test is not a serious issue for me as I have most of that knowledge already. When the time comes for me to make my investments into the ham radios, I'll be purchasing a solar powered repeater as well because I expect I'll be needing one. I am aware of the unnerving fact that it might be better to remain radio-silent rather then give away my position to just anyone who might have found a radio that works, too.

If people do not actually live away from the cities, they have jobs, their cellphones, their children/grandchildren to pick up from various activities such as school, soccer games, etc., they may not be prepared to actually be in a BOL for any length of time. People really do get cabin fever! For me, I use the internet in short bursts. I do not live indoors just doing nothing productive but in a SHTF scenario, one may have to be indoors or inside their BOL for an undetermined amount of time and that can be difficult to do, at times.

Anyway, I just wanted to cover a few other thoughts that I noticed were not mentioned too much and thought someone may find this information to their use too.

[Xzed]

Most people will just go home.

I live in a suburb of Boston, Ma. I think that for most SHTF crisis, people will mostly want to stay home. When people are scared, they usually just want to go home. If their homes are damaged or destroyed they will likely go to the next most familiar place (neighbor, relative, etc.). People with nothing to loose who intend to be hostile to survive will likely do their harm locally. Sure, there will be people fleeing, but I doubt it would be at such a massive scale that the boonies will be over-run.

Besides, if there was a massive evacuation, it would be so chaotic that everyone will be in the way of each other and they wont get far. Just look at the traffic jams on normal days, especially when there is an accident during rush hour. Can you imagine how many accidents there would be when everyone is panicked? If people cant get out by a vehicle or some other mechanized means, they are gonna stay local.

So don't worry about it too much friends.

Of course, I do NOT know what will happen. Its just how I feel things would play out knowing what I know of city people.

/John

[cbprice797]

Still agree with tense of the cake hehe, just one cake. Just all of it LOL. Was just being a poetry critic.

[Ponce]

Lol cb, in what is to come many will be lucky to have even one cake... and those who do will be guarding it like a pot of gold.

[cbprice797]

maybe the last line should be 'all your cake'. The extra word makes the syllabic similarity much closer and makes it easier to read.

But the little ditty is very appropo

[Ponce]

No matter where you are at sooner of later it will come to you, it will be only a matter of time.......

How bad it will be
you will never know
till you see it come
down the road.

So be ready
to be the best
or they will take
your cake.

[prkchp76]

hey then i could stay fat heheheheh

[cbprice797]

And as for surviving in a big city... think of all the dead and rotting bodies, human and otherwise, that will be all over the place. Guess you could go cannibal.:rolleyes:

[prkchp76]

food for thought DON'T be caught in a truck if thstf if you are know your back roads and get the hell outta dodge quick

[waitnc]

I am in the distribution industry and I can plainly state in a SHTF situation the drivers and warehouse workers aren't worried about the next dispatch. The food on the store shelves and behind the door isn't enough to last but a day or so. The Distribution centers if working can hold a week or so of product. We in the transportation side of coin call it JIT (Just In Time) we (the trucks) are the warehouse spaces for businesses. Don't be caught in a major city if you want to live. Food for thought?

[cbprice797]

Where Will They All Go and What Will THey Eat?

Well I have read in several places that the normal grocery store keeps enopugh food on hand for two days of restocking, Wal Mart restocks nearly everyday from trucks sent from centralized distribution centers. While the average family in the US has enough food on hand to last ONE WEEK!!! That is counting all the canned and frozen goods, pastas, noodles, EVERYTHING edible in the household.

With that in mind exactly how many people do you see getting out of the big cities alive. NY for example with the blocked bridges will have millions of people on foot. THey will not be able to carry much food if they are carrying belingings, and they will carry "important" things thinking they can get food along the way. They will die of dehydration, starvation, exposure, murder, or any number of other things before getting very far.

The several articles and such agree that within the first month the large cities will have less than 5% of the original population. Most of them will starve because there will be NO trucks delivering food to the local graceries and bodegas. :eek:

Now this is all worst case scenario but if there is an event like many of us think is likely to happen then cities will cease to get their food and they will die out. While a certain percentage will surely make it to the"safe" areas in the country they will be met by people there that will in all likelihood be forced to turn them away because they will need to feed their own towns and people.

[mountainman28713]

I am worried for my mom dad and handicapped younger brother. My dad is only worried about saving money and trying to get over on someone by being cheap and greedy. I have tried to warn them but the time is short and the days are getting shorter. I have tried to get him to get energy independent by burning wood for heat and by planting a garden. He was born/raised in the city, and we moved out to the country when I was really young, heated with wood,ate venison and read by candle/lantern light. he tells me he was just saving money back then and that he will not go back to that way of life. I guess I will have to take on the burden of three more mouths to feed, and worry about when it all goes down.

[Oscar Wilde]

[it's time for ya'll to start feeling sorry for me]

Feeling sorry for you will be of no benefit to you .... keep prepping and be prepared to bail.

O.W.

[waitnc]

Hi everyone,

Me and my better half are more concerned then ever, we see and hear more of the "Taboo" talk from prominent people in difference levels of the economy. The effects we will face even if nothing else is done by our gov't.
Excessive Inflation, Sky High Interest, 20-30 percent unemployment. Food shortages, our National Security, Military cut to nothing to save money, 50 -60 percent Tax bracketts. This list can get very depressing, I and the better half wonder how we both could be slipping into this level of paranoia?
Yet, there are more and more like us every day! We do the Tea Parties and write the idiots in our Congress just to say we tried the peaceful way first but, we both know by 2011 or 2012 we will be a third world country and the
little rogue states with the "Bomb" will be able to deploy it against us in our severally weakened state. Nothing like the "Cold War" Nuke scenario more like a few large cities hit and or a EMP strike. Then it will be "Welcome the the 7th century AD again. If you live near or in a metro area GET OUT! or learn to live like a rat for a year or so and let the idiots die off before sticking your head up again. By year's end inflation will make things very expensive, so make you big purchase items soon.

If you haven't seen it yet watch the movie "Defiant" recently out on DVD.