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What would be the best comunications with others if something was to happen with cells and all?? Ham Radio??
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Walkie-talkie......smoke signals....pony express.....relay.....
Best to get your emergency directives for coordination hammered out beforehand, so if TSHTF, no communication will be rquired...just a good rally point and a time-table."I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat -
Good advise,,,never thought about the whole grid being wiped out...thanksComment
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No sweat....keep your powder dry."I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic BastiatComment
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IMHO no other methods of comm will equal Ham Radio. That being said, you have to ask yourself a question, "Do you need to talk to anyone???"
Ham radio can handle short range commo with multiple bands and frequencies, regional comms, transcontinental, and world wide frequecies better than any other 'SINGLE' Radio service.
If all you need is to talk to your people up to 1/2 mile away then FRS may get you through (FRS and GMRS ranges are OVERINFLATED!!!) but if you need to talk to someone on the other side of town you are gonna need better!
So it all starts with a 'list of lists'. Who do you need to have commo with??? Will off the shelf items from wally world cover these needs. Do I need to get a CB? Am I willing to go through a simple test (it is easy) to get my ham license? Is the other person I am wanting to talk to willing to do the same??? Just some questions you need to answer for yourself.
The telecommunications grid has failed on a regional scale MANY times so it pays to have a way to get in touch with those you need. Also be aware, no matter which commo you chose, you will need some way to power it. For if the telecom grid fails, the power grid probably has to:eek: So it may be as simple a small solar battery charger for AA's for your FRS/GMRS or a few solar panels and a battery bank to power your station. The choice is yours and should be dependent on what you need!
Also don't forget, you don't always need to YAP;) to communicate, a lot of information can be mined from Short Wave Radio Receivers, Public Service Scanners, and your plain jane AM/FM radio. So be sure to have a way to power them if the power grid fails...
On the closing thought, don't forget the simple step of having a plain plug in the wall phone for when the power fails. Unless you are on a grid tied/battery powered Remote Terminal you can usually obtain a dial tone from this simple phone when the power grid fails!!! So be sure to have one... If you are Voice Over IP as in cable modems, you are SOL when the power fails unless you have a UPS on your cable modem. Just some things to consider from all things commo:D73
later,
ZA
Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to
beat you to death with it because it is empty.
The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.
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I am thinking for easy to find methods of comunication would be CB, Ham, FRS-GMRs and then marine UHF , VHF and Single Side Band. Then if you know some one who knows some one you can have these radios modified to have more power and channels or frqs.Comment
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+1 one on the radio mods........I know a guy here locally who will "tweak and peak" just about anything, for a small donation to his beverage fund...;)Originally posted by Omegaman View Post
You probably have one in your area, too.....just gotta find out who he is, and what he drinks :D"I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic BastiatComment
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I'm thinking that anyone that would really want to talk to me, I would not want to talk to.The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.Comment
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That could be good or bad, depending on your perspective......Originally posted by kenno View Post"I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic BastiatComment
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I might get satellite internet since DSL is not in my area yet(or near future)
It occured to me that if the phone lines and cellular are out, i might be able to use that for sending/receiving messages. (assuming that some conflict hasnt knocked out satellites)
Thoughts?CTHULHU/Dagon 2012Comment
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Pretty decent but pricey... works well for what it is... be aware there is a bandwidth limitation on some plans...
If it is a 2-way satellite service then it can be reliabe if the landlines and other things are out in your area... however if you 'request' info via a landline and it downloads via satellite... you would be screwed if the landlines go out...
I always wanted it, but they got DSL in my neighborhood, so I got that...
There may also be dedicated wireless (not talking celluar) that aims a directional antenna at a distant hilltop/tower and gives you reasonable speeds per cost ratio...73
later,
ZA
Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to
beat you to death with it because it is empty.
The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.
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The systems i looked at dont need a land line. The cost is pretty high but i would recoup some of the monthly $$ by canceling my regular phone. One of the main reasons we still have a landline is for dial up.
My big objection to Satellite net is the latency(lag) making it useless for real time gaming and pretty near useless for voice over net.
In the meantime, i continue to pester AT&T to get the lines upgraded;)CTHULHU/Dagon 2012Comment
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I know that you and your neighbors have probably done this... but keep going to the website and asking if dsl is available... Get all your neighbors to do the same... these inquiries go to marketing and THEY actually make the decisions on where to add or upgrade dsl service...
So if you are the 'lone voice in the wilderness' you ain't even a blip on their radar! However if enough folks are interested they may figure out how to get that 'cash cow'...
There are lots of other factors as well, and the 'death star' is spending most of thier efforts to go to equipping locations for U-verse, which is TV,Phone,and high speed internet...
My advice is don't hold your breath ;)73
later,
ZA
Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to
beat you to death with it because it is empty.
The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.
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Long time ago I read in Discover magazine that you could plug a coax cable into a tree and get radio, VHF, UHF,VLF signals....it works by using electromagnetic fields.
This method was used during World War 2. My husband and I tried it last week out of curiousity. All you do is drive a nail 2/3 of the way up a tree, ANY tree, size doesn't matter. Then you connect a copper wire to the nail, and use a connector to connect a coaxial cable or whatever type of wire you are using.
This works, folks! We got analog tv channels more clearly than we could using a booster and an antenna.
I wish we had known about it before. It's perfect for receiving radio signals. It picked up signals in WW2 from Germany, and was used to send communications out of France.
There is some info on this online.
Like I said, it was used in WW2.....till later, imluna47Comment
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I got a MagicJack, it's about the size of a cigarette lighter and plugs into your usb plugs for VOIP telephone. It cost $19 a year, plus $39 for the gadget. I can now call free anywhere in the US or Canada.
Oh...it DOES require high speed internet, but I never use my land line long distance anymore. The sound quality is really good,and it has an answering system for messages. imluna47Comment
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