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    Diesel's post http://www.xcolony.com/x/showthread.php?t=110 got me to think about secure comms. Ham radio is a very awesome thing, but encryption is a big NO NO. There are some modes which are hard to eavesdrop on from the general public (mainly digital modes such as MFSK16, PSK31, and others) but they require equipment that is bulkier than your average walkie talkie (it can be done).



    That being said I was going through some of my old links and came across TriSquare's EXRS radios. These are legal in the US and are similar to the FRS/GMRS radios. Run about $100 a pair. May be a good option for when you need some secure local comms. I think I will be adding 2 sets to my 'comm toolbox' ASAP.

    http://www.trisquare.us/
    73

    later,
    ZA

    Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to
    beat you to death with it because it is empty.

    The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.


  • #2
    I know people who use these... while they are neat, can be secure, and are digital

    they are still limited distance and seem about par to frs/gmrs radios in some pretty stout testing situation.
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    • #3
      That is what I figured on the range... still would be nice to have some local SECURE commo in case you needed it;)

      I do like that radio you posted a link to better!
      73

      later,
      ZA

      Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to
      beat you to death with it because it is empty.

      The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Zombie Axe View Post
        That is what I figured on the range... still would be nice to have some local SECURE commo in case you needed it;)

        I do like that radio you posted a link to better!

        question is how much are they, and can they be bought?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Diesel View Post
          question is how much are they, and can they be bought?
          Looks like they run $99 per pair, cheaper ($69) for the smaller ones. Looks like you can get them @ best buy or any other big box store.

          Check out the link below:

          http://www.trisquare.us/wheretobuy.htm
          73

          later,
          ZA

          Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to
          beat you to death with it because it is empty.

          The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Zombie Axe View Post
            Looks like they run $99 per pair, cheaper ($69) for the smaller ones. Looks like you can get them @ best buy or any other big box store.

            Check out the link below:

            http://www.trisquare.us/wheretobuy.htm
            no i meant the radios i had posted a link to in my other post :P
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            • #7
              Diesel,

              I checked out your link and then the R&S link six ways 'til Sunday and couldn't figure out where to buy them or how much they cost. But to me they just look EXPENSIVE! I wonder if there is some practical way to either build your own or modify existing commercial radios to suit our needs?
              ENJOY AND STAY SAFE

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              • #8
                Yeah i'm hot on the trail on some of this.

                It depends exactly what you want though do you want just hand helds, or a mobile rig in youe vehicle that can be taken with you

                do you want to have a ham license or prefer not to?
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                • #9
                  Those little 900MHz radios were reviewed somewhere on the Popular Wireless Forums a while ago. As someone said, range is short, probably about the same as low-wattage FRS rigs.

                  EDIT 01/09/2009: here is the link to the review:

                  http://www.popularwireless.com/forum...page=0&fpart=1

                  If you want very secure comms, try to get ahold of some surplus encrypted government radios at an auction, then try to find a friendly radio shop to program them with your own encryption key. I don't know how many radios make it through the auctions with the encryption modules intact, but I have seem them out there.
                  Last edited by methusaleh; 01-08-2009, 11:05 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Check these out: two way radios

                    I have been thinking of starting communications small and working my way up. I figure the range will be one quarter in the woods as the maximum stated. What do you think?

                    http://www.midlandradio.com/comersus...idProduct=5554

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                    • #11
                      Looks like a nice RIG... I have some Midlands...
                      73

                      later,
                      ZA

                      Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to
                      beat you to death with it because it is empty.

                      The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

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                      • #12
                        i have 4 of them we used to use for com, but no longer.

                        as for junk grms/frs radios (sorry hate them all) it's prob one of the best out there
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                        • #13
                          I agree...

                          However if all you need to do is talk to someone out of shouting range... they are OK...

                          One must ask themselves... who do I want to talk to and what are my range limitations... Ham IMHO is an EASY fix for all comm problems:D
                          73

                          later,
                          ZA

                          Someday someone may kill you with your own gun, but they should have to
                          beat you to death with it because it is empty.

                          The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get.

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                          • #14
                            We have some of those "family radios" for staying in touch around the property.
                            I can see how encryption would be helpful in bad times. You wouldnt want someone with a similar radio or scanner to overhear you report on the canned hams you just found.
                            CTHULHU/Dagon 2012

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