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McCain Proposes Indefinite Detention Without Trial for Citizens

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  • McCain Proposes Indefinite Detention Without Trial for Citizens

    This is Fascism. Period. If they go down this path, and the American people don't raise a HUGE stink, we are done.

    Don't like BOs financial policies? Well, you are obviously an enemy belligerent.

    "If Howdy Doody runs against him, I'm voting for the puppet." - SkyOwl's Wife, 2012

  • #2
    Great i think i am going to be sick and it has nothing to do with the sea


    • #3
      Civilian Inmate Labor Program
      Army Regulation 210–35


      • #4
        Your tax dollars at work...

        The official National Guard website was advertising for "internment specialists" to assist with operating internment camps for civilian detainees. From the dress (Arabic) of the first civilian detainees depicted in the ad, it appeared that this was for U.S. military operations overseas, though the location was never stated. The training site for the job was listed as Pensacola, Florida.

        After many people became aware of this ad last week, it was pulled down from the National Guard site sometime between Friday evening Aug 14, 2009 and Saturday morning Aug 15, 2009:

        National Guard ad for "internment specialist"
        The official National Guard website was advertising for "internment specialists" to assist with operating internment camps for civilian detainees. From the ...


        • #5
          One of these things is not like the other. One of these things is not the same...

          U.S. Code TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 67 > § 1385
          § 1385. Use of Army and Air Force as posse comitatus
          How Current is This? Whoever, except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress, willfully uses any part of the Army or the Air Force as a posse comitatus or otherwise to execute the laws shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

          U.S. Northern Command

          Click here to view a chronology of U.S. Northcom events

          U.S. Northern Command (USNORTHCOM) was established Oct. 1, 2002 to provide command and control of Department of Defense (DOD) homeland defense efforts and to coordinate defense support of civil authorities. USNORTHCOM defends America's homeland — protecting our people, national power, and freedom of action.

          USNORTHCOM’s specific mission:

          USNORTHCOM conducts homeland defense, civil support and security cooperation to defend and secure the United States and its interests.
          USNORTHCOM’s AOR includes air, land and sea approaches and encompasses the continental United States, Alaska, Canada, Mexico and the surrounding water out to approximately 500 nautical miles. It also includes the Gulf of Mexico, the Straits of Florida, portions of the Caribbean region to include The Bahamas, Puerto Rico, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. The commander of USNORTHCOM is responsible for theater security cooperation with Canada, Mexico, and The Bahamas.

          USNORTHCOM consolidates under a single unified command existing missions that were previously executed by other DOD organizations. This provides unity of command, which is critical to mission accomplishment.

          USNORTHCOM plans, organizes and executes homeland defense and civil support missions, but has few permanently assigned forces. The command is assigned forces whenever necessary to execute missions, as ordered by the president or secretary of defense.

          Civil service employees and uniformed members representing all service branches work at USNORTHCOM’s headquarters located at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo.

          The commander of USNORTHCOM also commands the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD), a bi-national command responsible for aerospace warning, aerospace control, and maritime warning for Canada, Alaska and the continental United States.

          USNORTHCOM’s civil support mission includes domestic disaster relief operations that occur during fires, hurricanes, floods and earthquakes. Support also includes counter-drug operations and managing the consequences of a terrorist event employing a weapon of mass destruction. The command provides assistance to a Primary Agency when tasked by DOD. Per the Posse Comitatus Act, military forces can provide civil support, but cannot become directly involved in law enforcement.

          In providing civil support, USNORTHCOM generally operates through established Joint Task Forces subordinate to the command. An emergency must exceed the capabilities of local, state and federal agencies before USNORTHCOM becomes involved. In most cases, support will be limited, localized and specific. When the scope of the disaster is reduced to the point that the Primary Agency can again assume full control and management without military assistance, USNORTHCOM will exit, leaving the on-scene experts to finish the job.


          • #6
            United States Constitution

            Bill of Rights

            Amendment I
            Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

            Amendment II
            A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

            Amendment III
            No soldier shall, in time of peace be quartered in any house, without the consent of the owner, nor in time of war, but in a manner to be prescribed by law.

            Amendment IV
            The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

            Amendment V
            No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a grand jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the militia, when in actual service in time of war or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

            Amendment VI
            In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

            Amendment VII
            In suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise reexamined in any court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.

            Amendment VIII
            Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

            Amendment IX
            The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

            Amendment X
            The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.


            • #7
              The Obama administration has created and staffed a new position tucked inside their communications shop for helping coordinate rapid response to unfavorable stories and fostering and improving relations with the progressive online community.


              • #8
                This one scares the sh*t out of me. And McCAIN doing it! I don't like him, never have, but didn't think he was THAT bad.

                This violates the 5th and 6th amendments, could walk on the 4th, and if they call you an enemy belligerent, they'll take your 2nd.
                "If Howdy Doody runs against him, I'm voting for the puppet." - SkyOwl's Wife, 2012


                • #9
                  I real didn't like him when he was running for president, but now! dang it. What are they thinking up there? Well I know what they are thinking..
                  "We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."
                  -Ben Franklin


                  • #10
                    He's a Senator from my state. I haven't voted for him for Senate in the last 3 elections (that's 18 years!), I leave it blank if there is not some other viable candidate. HAD to vote for him for POTUS to stop the Marxist. But now I find out that he's one, too.
                    "If Howdy Doody runs against him, I'm voting for the puppet." - SkyOwl's Wife, 2012


                    • #11
                      cant say Im surprised. things have been building to this level for the last thirty years. Laws now supersede the constitution. which is easy to do when the Supreme courts are stacked with political appointees who Rule along the lines of the people who put them in place.


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TennOutdoors View Post
                        .... Laws now supersede the constitution.
                        They don't .... but there's the issue with the enforcement arm.

                        Things are seldom what they seem.


                        • #13
                          I believe all the current Supreme Court Justices were educated at Harvard Law,where the Law was taught as Case Law,not directly from the Constitution.The cases were "nudged" over time to reflect an aberration of Constitutional Law.
                          Hate speech is not Free Speech,therefore it is not according to the Constitution.Hate Crimes are still crimes,typically specifically protecting one group over another,also not according to the Constitution,IN MY OPINION.
                          If the Bill Of Rights is relegated to obscure history,we have lost the Rule of Law,we have lost the idea of Freedom that made America the last great hope.
                          With Political Correctness,we can not identify the enemy,and we must entice them into the light ,and believe what they say.
                          Just Saying!


                          • #14
                            [NOTE: Although it never became law, it just goes to show how low our congressmen will stoop to deprive us of our rights]

                            Occurred: Introduced Mar 4, 2010
                            Occurred: Referred to Committee View Committee Assignments
                            Not Yet Occurred: Reported by Committee (did not occur)
                            Not Yet Occurred: Senate Vote (did not occur)
                            Not Yet Occurred: House Vote (did not occur)
                            Not Yet Occurred: Signed by President (did not occur)
                            This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books. Members often reintroduce bills that did not come up for debate under a new number in the next session.
                            Last Action:
                            Mar 4, 2010: Read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary.
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                            • #15
                              I honestly think numerous Washington insiders see what's coming and are taking the side that will keep them safe and in power not caring one second about the people of this country or the Constitution. McCain is an idiot, just beause he was a POW doesn't mean he has my respect. He is wishy washy and a coward!

                              I hope he see's this!