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  • lady_banjo
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    Last edited by lady_banjo; 01-21-2010, 08:47 AM.

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  • cc21
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    What is really sad is that the money "aid" will never get to who needs it. I had a discussion with a guy that is from Hati and his parents still live there. They were both OK but their home was leveled. He was telling me that when he heard on the news that Obama said he would send 1 billion (or whatever it was), he started crying because he knows that it will never make it there. There was also a lady there in the conversation that did some missionary work in Hati and she said that when she would get care packages from home the were confiscated and the guards would try to sell them back to her. I know crap like that goes on everywhere but its just an example of how corrupt this area is.

    Anything we send over there will never make it to the people who need it. Screw governmental humanitarian aid. If you really want to help, give funds to a specific organization that has boots on the ground. NOT THE GOVERNMENT!

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  • Visinedrops
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    I don't doubt that Kenno. What we have already witnessed through the election and first year of our president is that he is following the laws of the nation in his favor by legally appointing people he knows will accomplish his socio-democratic agenda. With governmental takeover of large financial institutions, two of the three great American auto makers, and forcing the government-operated health care agenda, he and his cronies are systematically changing the laws of this nation to coincide with the laws of other nations. He is not a democrat, he is not a socialist; he's a democratic socialist dictator. Hatians should love that...it's basically the government they have already.

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  • kenno
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    Obamma plans to declare all Hatians citizens of the US so they can vote him in as president for life.

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  • Demorian
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    The sad part of all this is the US keeps sending money and loaning money to every third world nation out there, hell we have even given to many non-third world nations. Only way to fix the problem real simply is to stop playing world's police (let all those countries kill each other and help population control in the world) and stop playing Red Cross (if they won't help themselves why should the American taxpayers have to). Besides we have already given tons in the past to Haiti let them fend for themselves.

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  • rsanders
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    Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
    Dammit.............and I thought I was an extremist... xD
    Well, as someone once said.................. Great minds think alike :D

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  • Visinedrops
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    Just read in World Net Daily (link to story) that "U.S. sources confirm to WND that Haitian relief efforts could easily surpass $1 billion in the next few months, much of that aid being financed by Washington. "

    In a country whose currency equals roughly 2.5 cents of American currency, $1 billion American is equvilent to $25 billion in Haiti.

    Lets break this down a little. The Haitian people earn an average of $270 per year (source), with that said, a 10 unit apartment complex built by Haitian people would be the equivalency of the cost of an American slum, multiplied by 0.025. Lets say American's build a slum for $350,000, that would be $8,750 in Haiti.

    So, to place a monetary value of repairs to Haiti in American dollars is overstating the actual value of property damage in Haiti. With a population of 9.7 million, and converting American currency into Haitian Gourde, it would be the equivalency of giving every single Haitian $2500. which is roughly 10 years salary.
    Last edited by Visinedrops; 01-17-2010, 05:02 PM. Reason: link didn't work properly

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  • Big_Saw
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    Originally posted by rsanders View Post
    If we don't rescue/rebuild Haiti then one of our Cocaine sources will dry up and you can imagine the impact that will have on the economy,the people that will be out of work ,DEA agents,Drug Kingpins,all the way down to your lowly street corner dealer, The unemployment rate will skyrocket . I say we give the Americans there 24 hours to evacuate then go in and carpet bomb the entire damn island, we have the firepower to turn it into a sheet of glass............. Mission Accomplished. Money saved, now who's next in line for aid ?
    Dammit.............and I thought I was an extremist... xD

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  • rsanders
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    Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
    I say f*ck foreign aid.....I'm tired of hearing how broke we are, and how cold and callous our military is...the US. comprises what? 4% of the global population? WTF do we have to shoulder the burden of every despotic and corrupt nation which suffers a calamity?:mad::confused:

    ...let 'em rot...or let some other country give up some GDP for a change...
    If we don't rescue/rebuild Haiti then one of our Cocaine sources will dry up and you can imagine the impact that will have on the economy,the people that will be out of work ,DEA agents,Drug Kingpins,all the way down to your lowly street corner dealer, The unemployment rate will skyrocket . I say we give the Americans there 24 hours to evacuate then go in and carpet bomb the entire damn island, we have the firepower to turn it into a sheet of glass............. Mission Accomplished. Money saved, now who's next in line for aid ?

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  • knightmare
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    The whole thing is horrid. Dr Gupta on CNN was saying last evening that the UN doctors were ordered out, he was the only one left treating anyone. He turned a lot of his camera crew into hack med team trying to help. Any ideas on why they wouldn't be able to provide security for UN docs at least? They got them in there. I don't get that bit of it whatsoever.

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  • kenno
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    Yeah
    "Let China and Isrial sort em out. There is no win in humatiarian efforts, Hati has been sucking that Teat for decades"
    It all comes down to whose military aircraft do you want sitting on that runway? Do you want Chinese attack aircraft on that runway in 6 months? See we are now a 3rd world nation. We don't get to choose who lands aircraft in our hemisphere anymore. Once that happens, we are less powerful than Pakistan.

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  • Big_Saw
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    I say f*ck foreign aid.....I'm tired of hearing how broke we are, and how cold and callous our military is...the US. comprises what? 4% of the global population? WTF do we have to shoulder the burden of every despotic and corrupt nation which suffers a calamity?:mad::confused:

    ...let 'em rot...or let some other country give up some GDP for a change...

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  • hubste5
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    Originally posted by Centurion View Post
    We really are an amazing nation of people. Let's see now, rebuild Iraq check, rebuild Afganistan check, and while we are at it we can rebuild Haiti. The pictures on the Communists News network are very vivid and sad but I am just unable to reach into the pocket book for a ten spot when I can put it towards more preps because our Earthquake is comming and I doubt the help will. Charity begins at home. Just my opinion.
    It's a tough situation... The rub for me is the fact that we have a failing economy, mega-deficit, we are IN THE RED so deep that red can't get any redder... can it? How can we help? Either we have $$$$ or we don't, and everything I see, read, hear, says we don't... what happens when the printing presses break? where will the $$ come from to fix them?

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  • Centurion
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    We really are an amazing nation of people. Let's see now, rebuild Iraq check, rebuild Afganistan check, and while we are at it we can rebuild Haiti. The pictures on the Communists News network are very vivid and sad but I am just unable to reach into the pocket book for a ten spot when I can put it towards more preps because our Earthquake is comming and I doubt the help will. Charity begins at home. Just my opinion.

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  • hubste5
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    We've been trying to save Haiti for decades. They die daily from diseases we have cured. There was not much of an infrastructure to deliver aid (medical or otherwise) before, likely none now...

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