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  • SHTF in Hati

    Hati is a nation that exists in poverty in the best of times, national average income is $2 a day. Now it has decended into a true PAW the infastructure has disappeared fires have brokenout most major structures have collapased prision populations have escaped. The dead are piled in the street. The US will, of course ride to the rescue. but how do you rescue 3.5 million people?
    There is no up side to this but we do get to watch and learn. Post your observations here.
    The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.

  • #2
    I watched some of the news stories about Haiti's earthquake, and the devastation it has caused. America will come to their rescue with financial aid, food, clean water, and other such ammenities. Save those who can't save themselves, and while our own country is in a losing battle for its own people, this country's nature is to is to help out those poorer nations who need it.

    I say lets cut the congress' salaries by half to help pay for repairs to infrastructure in Haiti, lets cut the salaries of corporate C.E.O.'s by half to pay for food for that nation, and once Haiti is rebuilt...keep it that way.
    "Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." "The things you own end up owning you"-Tyler Durden

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    • #3
      We've been trying to save Haiti for decades. They die daily from diseases we have cured. There was not much of an infrastructure to deliver aid (medical or otherwise) before, likely none now...

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      • #4
        We really are an amazing nation of people. Let's see now, rebuild Iraq check, rebuild Afganistan check, and while we are at it we can rebuild Haiti. The pictures on the Communists News network are very vivid and sad but I am just unable to reach into the pocket book for a ten spot when I can put it towards more preps because our Earthquake is comming and I doubt the help will. Charity begins at home. Just my opinion.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Centurion View Post
          We really are an amazing nation of people. Let's see now, rebuild Iraq check, rebuild Afganistan check, and while we are at it we can rebuild Haiti. The pictures on the Communists News network are very vivid and sad but I am just unable to reach into the pocket book for a ten spot when I can put it towards more preps because our Earthquake is comming and I doubt the help will. Charity begins at home. Just my opinion.
          It's a tough situation... The rub for me is the fact that we have a failing economy, mega-deficit, we are IN THE RED so deep that red can't get any redder... can it? How can we help? Either we have $$$$ or we don't, and everything I see, read, hear, says we don't... what happens when the printing presses break? where will the $$ come from to fix them?

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          • #6
            I say f*ck foreign aid.....I'm tired of hearing how broke we are, and how cold and callous our military is...the US. comprises what? 4% of the global population? WTF do we have to shoulder the burden of every despotic and corrupt nation which suffers a calamity?:mad::confused:

            ...let 'em rot...or let some other country give up some GDP for a change...
            "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

            "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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            • #7
              Yeah
              "Let China and Isrial sort em out. There is no win in humatiarian efforts, Hati has been sucking that Teat for decades"
              It all comes down to whose military aircraft do you want sitting on that runway? Do you want Chinese attack aircraft on that runway in 6 months? See we are now a 3rd world nation. We don't get to choose who lands aircraft in our hemisphere anymore. Once that happens, we are less powerful than Pakistan.
              The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.

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              • #8
                The whole thing is horrid. Dr Gupta on CNN was saying last evening that the UN doctors were ordered out, he was the only one left treating anyone. He turned a lot of his camera crew into hack med team trying to help. Any ideas on why they wouldn't be able to provide security for UN docs at least? They got them in there. I don't get that bit of it whatsoever.
                What part of "shall not be infringed" do you NOT understand?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
                  I say f*ck foreign aid.....I'm tired of hearing how broke we are, and how cold and callous our military is...the US. comprises what? 4% of the global population? WTF do we have to shoulder the burden of every despotic and corrupt nation which suffers a calamity?:mad::confused:

                  ...let 'em rot...or let some other country give up some GDP for a change...
                  If we don't rescue/rebuild Haiti then one of our Cocaine sources will dry up and you can imagine the impact that will have on the economy,the people that will be out of work ,DEA agents,Drug Kingpins,all the way down to your lowly street corner dealer, The unemployment rate will skyrocket . I say we give the Americans there 24 hours to evacuate then go in and carpet bomb the entire damn island, we have the firepower to turn it into a sheet of glass............. Mission Accomplished. Money saved, now who's next in line for aid ?
                  Every Day , Is A Bonus.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rsanders View Post
                    If we don't rescue/rebuild Haiti then one of our Cocaine sources will dry up and you can imagine the impact that will have on the economy,the people that will be out of work ,DEA agents,Drug Kingpins,all the way down to your lowly street corner dealer, The unemployment rate will skyrocket . I say we give the Americans there 24 hours to evacuate then go in and carpet bomb the entire damn island, we have the firepower to turn it into a sheet of glass............. Mission Accomplished. Money saved, now who's next in line for aid ?
                    Dammit.............and I thought I was an extremist... xD
                    "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

                    "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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                    • #11
                      Just read in World Net Daily (link to story) that "U.S. sources confirm to WND that Haitian relief efforts could easily surpass $1 billion in the next few months, much of that aid being financed by Washington. "

                      In a country whose currency equals roughly 2.5 cents of American currency, $1 billion American is equvilent to $25 billion in Haiti.

                      Lets break this down a little. The Haitian people earn an average of $270 per year (source), with that said, a 10 unit apartment complex built by Haitian people would be the equivalency of the cost of an American slum, multiplied by 0.025. Lets say American's build a slum for $350,000, that would be $8,750 in Haiti.

                      So, to place a monetary value of repairs to Haiti in American dollars is overstating the actual value of property damage in Haiti. With a population of 9.7 million, and converting American currency into Haitian Gourde, it would be the equivalency of giving every single Haitian $2500. which is roughly 10 years salary.
                      Last edited by Visinedrops; 01-17-2010, 06:02 PM. Reason: link didn't work properly
                      "Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." "The things you own end up owning you"-Tyler Durden

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Big_Saw View Post
                        Dammit.............and I thought I was an extremist... xD
                        Well, as someone once said.................. Great minds think alike :D
                        Every Day , Is A Bonus.

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                        • #13
                          The sad part of all this is the US keeps sending money and loaning money to every third world nation out there, hell we have even given to many non-third world nations. Only way to fix the problem real simply is to stop playing world's police (let all those countries kill each other and help population control in the world) and stop playing Red Cross (if they won't help themselves why should the American taxpayers have to). Besides we have already given tons in the past to Haiti let them fend for themselves.

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                          • #14
                            Obamma plans to declare all Hatians citizens of the US so they can vote him in as president for life.
                            The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.

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                            • #15
                              I don't doubt that Kenno. What we have already witnessed through the election and first year of our president is that he is following the laws of the nation in his favor by legally appointing people he knows will accomplish his socio-democratic agenda. With governmental takeover of large financial institutions, two of the three great American auto makers, and forcing the government-operated health care agenda, he and his cronies are systematically changing the laws of this nation to coincide with the laws of other nations. He is not a democrat, he is not a socialist; he's a democratic socialist dictator. Hatians should love that...it's basically the government they have already.
                              "Reject the basic assumptions of civilization, especially the importance of material possessions." "The things you own end up owning you"-Tyler Durden

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