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    Hasan "Burn, Behead Unbelivers"
    Major Nidal Hasan gave lecture non-belivers should be beheaded boiling oil poured

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...roats-cut.html


    Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the gunman who killed 13 at America's Fort Hood military base, once gave a lecture to other doctors in which he said non-believers should be beheaded and have boiling oil poured down their throats.


    By Nick Allen in Fort Hood
    Published: 5:00PM GMT 08 Nov 2009


    Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the U.S. Army doctor named as a suspect in the shooting death of 13 people and the wounding of 31 others at Fort Hood, Texas Photo: GETTY


    He also told colleagues at America's top military hospital that non-Muslims were infidels condemned to hell who should be set on fire. The outburst came during an hour-long talk Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, gave on the Koran in front of dozens of other doctors at Walter Reed Army Medical Centre in Washington DC, where he worked for six years before arriving at Fort Hood in July.


    Colleagues had expected a discussion on a medical issue but were instead given an extremist interpretation of the Koran, which Hasan appeared to believe.

    It was the latest in a series of "red flags" about his state of mind that have emerged since the massacre at Fort Hood, America's largest military installation, on Thursday.
    Hasan, armed with two handguns including a semi-automatic pistol, walked into a processing centre for soldiers deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan, where he killed 13 and injured more than 30.
    Fellow doctors have recounted how they were repeatedly harangued by Hasan about religion and that he openly claimed to be a "Muslim first and American second."
    One Army doctor who knew him said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim soldier had stopped fellow officers from filing formal complaints.
    Another, Dr Val Finnell, who took a course with him in 2007 at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Maryland, did complain about Hasan's "anti-American rants." He said: "The system is not doing what it's supposed to do. He at least should have been confronted about these beliefs, told to cease and desist, and to shape up or ship out. I really questioned his loyalty."
    Selena Coppa, an activist for Iraq Veterans Against the War, said: "This man was a psychiatrist and was working with other psychiatrists every day and they failed to notice how deeply disturbed someone right in their midst was."
    One of Hasan's neighbours described how on the day of the massacre, about 9am, he gave her a Koran and told her: "I'm going to do good work for God" before leaving for the base.
    A civilian police officer who shot him, bringing the rampage to an end, said Hasan appeared "calm" during the massacre, hiding behind a telephone pole and shooting fellow soldiers in the back as they tried to get away.
    "He was firing at people as they were trying to run and hide, said Sgt Mark Todd. "Then he turned and fired a couple of rounds at me. I didn't hear him say a word, he just turned and fired."
    Hasan flinched after he was shot and slid down against the pole still clutching his gun, which had a laser sight on it. The officer kicked away the weapon and handcuffed him.
    He said: "The guy was breathing, his eyes were blinking. I could tell that he was fading out and he didn't say anything. He was just kind of blinking."
    Senator Joe Lieberman, who chairs the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security, said there had been "strong warning signs" that Hasan was an "Islamist extremist".
    The committee would ask "whether the Army missed warning signs that should have led them to essentially discharge him, he said. He added: "The US
    Army has to have zero tolerance. He should have been gone."
    But General George Casey, the Army's Chief of Staff, said it was "speculation" that military authorities failed to pick up on warning signs. "I don't want to say that we missed it," he said.
    Asked if military authorities had missed warning signs Gen Casey, the Army's Chief of Staff, added: "We have to go back and look at ourselves ,and ask ourselves the hard questions. Are we doing the right things? We will learn from this.
    "It's too early to draw conclusions but we will ask ourselves the hard questions about what we are doing and the changes we should make as a result of this."

    ---------- Post added at 02:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:39 PM ----------

    Did Hasan radicalize
    others at Fort Hood?


    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=115466

    Alleged Army terrorist counseled
    48 Muslims in chaplain's absence


    November 09, 2009


    The suspected Fort Hood terrorist served as a lay Muslim leader running Islamic services on the base in the absence of the Muslim chaplain, WND has learned. He also mentored at least one young convert to Islam whose parents worked at the sprawling Texas post.

    Hasan's religious activities raise the specter that others may have been radicalized, investigators worry. There are nearly 50 Muslim soldiers serving on the base.

    Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan allegedly shot 46 fellow soldiers and security guards and murdered 13 in the worst act of terrorism on U.S. soil since 9/11.

    Witnesses say the devout Muslim officer jumped up on a desk and shouted, "Allahu akbar!" – Allah is greatest – before opening fire and spraying more than 100 bullets inside a crowded building where troops were preparing to deploy to Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Get "Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That's Conspiring to Islamize America," autographed, from WND's Superstore.

    "He was preparing for a martyrdom operation," a U.S. Army intelligence official said. "There is no evidence that this was an issue of an emotional aberration. It was well planned."

    Not long after Hasan transferred to the base earlier this year, he sat down with Muslim chaplain Maj. Khalid Shabazz to discuss carrying out Shabazz's "vision" at the Fort Hood chapel when Shabazz was away. Shabazz helped lead Islamic services at the base's Ironhorse Chapel, which serves 48 Muslim soldiers.

    "I found him to be very pleasant," Shabazz said of Hasan.

    Shabazz, who recently left the base, met privately with Hasan several times.

    Before his posting at Fort Hood, Shabazz ministered to Muslim inmates at the military detention camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where he was known as a "sympathizer" among military police. Shabazz scolded MPs for making noise while al-Qaida detainees were praying.

    "I would have to go down and chastise those guys," he recalled in a 2008 interview with NPR, "telling them, 'Hey man, those guys are praying. Have the decency not to play the national anthem and agitate them while they're praying.'"

    The NPR interview was posted last year on the website of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, which the FBI says is a front group for Hamas terrorists. (Following CAIR's blacklisting by the Justice Department as an unindicted terrorist co-conspirator, the FBI last year cut off formal ties to the group.)

    Shabazz, who says it's tough trying to be a good Muslim and a good U.S. soldier, serves as a member of a chaplaincy steering committee for the Islamic Society of North America, or ISNA.

    Federal prosecutors recently named ISNA – a sister organization to CAIR – as an unindicted terrorist co-conspirator in the largest terror finance case in U.S. history. ISNA, they say, like CAIR is a front group for the Muslim Brotherhood, parent of Hamas and al-Qaida.

    The Brotherhood, which supports violent jihad and Islamic rule, is the subject of the bestselling new book, "Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That's Conspiring to Islamize America."

    Federal investigators are looking into Hasan's use of his neighbor's computer, and a visitor he had the day before the Fort Hood attack. Reports say Hasan was "mentoring" on Islam that Muslims shouldn't be in the U.S. military, because Muslims shouldn't kill Muslims.

    Hasan counseled on more than a dozen occasions recent Islamic convert Duane Reasoner, an 18-year-old whose parents worked on the base.

    "He said he didn't want to go to Iraq or Afghanistan," said Reasoner, who was raised a Catholic. "He didn't want to be deployed. He said Muslims shouldn't be in the U.S. military, because obviously Muslims shouldn't kill Muslims."

    Reasoner added: "In the Quran, you're not supposed to have alliances with Jews or Christians or others, and if you are killed in the military fighting against Muslims, you will go to hell."

    (Story continues below)


    An Army chaplain interviewed by McClatchy Newspapers on the condition of anonymity confirmed that there are other Muslim soldiers who are conflicted about honoring their duty while fighting other Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Hasan told colleagues, "I'm a Muslim first and an American second." He clearly put the Islamic nation above the secular nation he took an oath to protect and defend.

    He's not alone. At least a dozen other Muslim soldiers have been convicted of terrorism or espionage since 9/11. Here's a sampling:

    NAVY SIGNALMAN HASSAN ABUJIHAAD last year was convicted of tipping off al-Qaida to battlegroup movements in the Persian Gulf, including disclosing classified documents detailing the group's vulnerability to terror attack

    ARMY RESERVIST JEFFREY LEON BATTLE in 2003 pleaded guilty to conspiring to wage war against the U.S., confessing he enlisted "to receive military training to use against America"

    ARMY RESERVIST SEMI OSMAN in 2002 was arrested for providing material support to al-Qaida and pleaded guilty to weapons charges after agreeing to testify against other terror suspects

    MARINE ABDUL RAHEEM AL-ARSHAD ALI trained at a suspected al-Qaida camp and was charged with selling a semiautomatic handgun to Osman

    ARMY SGT. ALI "THE AMERICAN" MOHAMED trained Green Berets at the elite Swick warfare school at Fort Bragg before stealing classified military secrets for al-Qaida and helping plan the 1998 U.S. embassy bombings in Africa

    ARMY SGT. HAMMAD ABDUR-RAHEEM in 2004 was convicted of terror-related charges

    ARMY SPC. RYAN G. ANDERSON in 2004 was convicted of leaking military intelligence to al-Qaida terrorists, including sensitive information about the vulnerabilities of armored Humvees

    ARMY SNIPER JOHN ALLEN MUHAMMAD was sentenced to death after fatally shooting 10 in the nation's capital a year after the 9/11 attacks

    FORMER ARMY LINGUIST AHMED FATHY MEHALBA in 2005 was convicted of stealing secret documents listing, among other things, the names of al-Qaida detainees from Gitmo

    SENIOR AIRMAN AHMAD AL-HALABI in 2004 was convicted of mishandling classified documents as an Arabic linguist at Gitmo

    ARMY CAPT. JAMES "YOUSEF" YEE in 2003 was formally charged with mishandling classified information – including maps of a new Gitmo facility – as a Muslim chaplain at Gitmo.
    "Muslim Mafia" co-author Paul Sperry says Hasan is just the tip of a jihadist Fifth Column operating inside the U.S. military – which is too blinded by political correctness to see the internal threat.

    "If military command is too PC to protect its own troops from Islamic fanatics on its own soil, how can Americans be confident they can protect the rest of the country?" asked Sperry, also author of "Infiltration: How Muslim Spies and Subversives Have Penetrated Washington." [/size]

    He says that each branch of the military operates a counterspying unit in charge of force protection.

    "Why didn't the Army investigate Hasan with all the red flags waving around him?" Sperry said. "And what other radicalized soldiers – and I would include chaplains among them – are they failing to investigate now? What is the military doing to stop the next Maj. Nidal?"
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    The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.

  • #2
    Obammanation

    Obama lied:
    Soldiers died
    Obama lied:
    Soldiers died
    The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.

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    • #3
      Obamma's calling card?

      It is bad when american taxpayers buy military calling cards with Jihadie secret codes printed on them.
      I wonder whats on Obamma's calling card?
      The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.

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      • #4
        Good post Kenno. Thanks for the info. I personally believe that we are being infiltrated at an alarming rate and this just proves it. I also believe that Our Goberment knows it.
        Your opponet got stronger today, did you?
        {{unswydd-Of One Purpose}}

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kenno View Post
          It is bad when american taxpayers buy military calling cards with Jihadie secret codes printed on them.
          I wonder whats on Obamma's calling card?
          Obammanation, funny I made a bunch of bumper stickers on cafepress several months ago with various spellings of Obammanation. Images below. Made my own political cartoons right after Obama was elected I guess I'll put that too now that I think of it, I'm no artist.
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          Last edited by Legionnaire; 11-12-2009, 04:28 PM. Reason: Had a Sig still in the corner, not that I don't trust you all but don't put your name out where you don't have to.
          Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim.
          ~ Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you.-Ovid

          Mus uni non fidit antro.
          ~ A mouse does not rely on just one hole.-Plautus

          Non semper erit aestas
          ~ It will not always be summer.

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          • #6
            Now Now, we all know Janet Napolotano wouldn't approve of all this, now would she?

            Seriously, I have a few problems with everything at Fort Hood, as it turned out! I know darn good and well that I'm not supposed to be racist and I'm not, really. But I do have a problem when someone acts religious in their beliefs and brings harm to the US Soldiers, or any American and then I have a problem with the officer who stopped the shootings, not stopping the shootings via a bullet in the head (or an entire clip). Bravery on the officer? Indeed and that is commendable. However, giving the man a chance to get out of it, his crimes, disturbs me. I just hope Justice prevails and the message sent out is more then a polite one. There are families that are destroyed, lives of those who signed up to protect this Country, lost. For the sake of the board here, I am trying to choose my words cautiously because I do not want to offend anyone. I am also trying to keep my wording civil and clean!

            Well, I'm sure I'm not the only one feeling this way and I'm tired of choosing my words to use so that's all I will comment about this topic for right now. I do not generally speak my mind on the internet.
            Last edited by Pioneer; 11-12-2009, 11:30 PM.
            Being unprepared is giving up!

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            • #7
              pioneer,i agree with you and have not been so discreet in the past.That said i think the united states needs to be a little less p.c. and protect it's citizens better.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by hammer502 View Post
                pioneer,i agree with you and have not been so discreet in the past.That said i think the united states needs to be a little less p.c. and protect it's citizens better.
                I agree hammer. I just don't feel it's all too likely to happen.
                Being unprepared is giving up!

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                • #9
                  I don't think your going to offend anyone here Pioneer. Anyhow, you have no control over whom you offend anyway. I don't even try anymore, screw them as I don't even waste my time thinking about it. I have no control over how they think or feel. Speaking of which, I forgot to go back and get the 'Infidel' tee shirt at the gun show yesterday. Seriously thought about getting an Anti Obama shirt as well. I would wear that to the mall on those days I am feeling cranky, and wear it with pride.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by HileTroy View Post
                    I don't think your going to offend anyone here Pioneer. Anyhow, you have no control over whom you offend anyway. I don't even try anymore, screw them as I don't even waste my time thinking about it. I have no control over how they think or feel. Speaking of which, I forgot to go back and get the 'Infidel' tee shirt at the gun show yesterday. Seriously thought about getting an Anti Obama shirt as well. I would wear that to the mall on those days I am feeling cranky, and wear it with pride.
                    I have to agree with you here as well. While I may not have too much control over offending people, it's still my personal responsibility to control myself and my actions, at all times.
                    Being unprepared is giving up!

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                    • #11
                      I dont think there is any doubt that Major Nidal Hasan is a frik'n nutjob.

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                      • #12
                        We are being infiltrated by Jihadies, by Drug Gangs, by Illeagles who ACORN and SEIU provide jobs and phoney voter registration cards to. Every time someone points to one group the other groups change thier names and hide for a few weeks. Our country is being bankrupted, our soldiers are being sniped in thier own back yards and betrayed on the battlefield. Our youth is being corupted in school by socialist teachers. Our MEDIA is an active participant in the killing of thier own nation. The US is dieing the death of a thousand small cuts, one big push and we, along with all of western civilization, will topple into the dust of history.
                        The road to serfdom is paved with free electric golf carts.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by kenno View Post
                          We are being infiltrated by Jihadies, by Drug Gangs, by Illeagles who ACORN and SEIU provide jobs and phoney voter registration cards to. Every time someone points to one group the other groups change thier names and hide for a few weeks. Our country is being bankrupted, our soldiers are being sniped in thier own back yards and betrayed on the battlefield. Our youth is being corupted in school by socialist teachers. Our MEDIA is an active participant in the killing of thier own nation. The US is dieing the death of a thousand small cuts, one big push and we, along with all of western civilization, will topple into the dust of history.
                          Well said kenno!
                          Being unprepared is giving up!

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