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    PELOSI: Buy a $15,000 Policy or Go to Jail
    JCT Confirms Failure to Comply with Democrats’ Mandate Can Lead to 5 Years in Jail
    Friday, November 06, 2009


    Today, Ranking Member of the House Ways and Means Committee Dave Camp (R-MI) released a letter from the non-partisan Joint Committee on Taxation (JCT) confirming that the failure to comply with the individual mandate to buy health insurance contained in the Pelosi health care bill (H.R. 3962, as amended) could land people in jail. The JCT letter makes clear that Americans who do not maintain “acceptable health insurance coverage” and who choose not to pay the bill’s new individual mandate tax (generally 2.5% of income), are subject to numerous civil and criminal penalties, including criminal fines of up to $250,000 and imprisonment of up to five years.

    In response to the JCT letter, Camp said: “This is the ultimate example of the Democrats’ command-and-control style of governing – buy what we tell you or go to jail. It is outrageous and it should be stopped immediately.”

    Key excerpts from the JCT letter appear below:

    “H.R. 3962 provides that an individual (or a husband and wife in the case of a joint return) who does not, at any time during the taxable year, maintain acceptable health insurance coverage for himself or herself and each of his or her qualifying children is subject to an additional tax.” [page 1]

    http://republicans.waysandmeans.hous...tter110509.pdf
    Your opponet got stronger today, did you?
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    I will not submit to this legislation...I will make a stand against it....God willing, enough of you and others will stand with me to make prosecuting this horrible legislation too expensive to bear.....

    The Shit is about to Hit The Fan....
    "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

    "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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    • #3
      This is BS!No way can they force us.My wife and I work full time jobs,we have two kids and we can't afford to pay for insurance.Well when the crap hits the fan this country will find out how screwed up our leaders are! :mad:
      S&W sw9ve , 1974 Glenfield model 60

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      • #4
        Preparing for DEFCON 1.....
        Okay, the feds pass us into abject Imperialism....what now?

        You should already be armed and ready, with food stores for a minimum of 90 days (and that's a pittance), some evacuation gear (BoB), and a plan...

        It's time to fire up those patriot networks we've all been building nationwide...get ready to either defend your home or "bug-out"....

        I, as of yesterday, pulled all my savings and investment in and converted to 100% gold and silver...IN HAND...not paper notes...double checked my home stores and defenses, geared up my BoB and shared BoL, and called & coordinated with over 500 trained and prepared patriots...leaders...nation-wide....

        We're getting ready to defend ourselves from tyranny, whether that be by holding out or pushing forward will be up to two things: The amount of actual, tangible support we can muster, and the ability of the Imperial Federal gov't to prosecute resistance....

        The era of the Republic is past, as we move into a dark age of Socialist fascism and forced assimilation into a "hive" mentality....the vote doesn't matter...hasn't in decades (and that's proven...literally).....

        We are, indeed, the resistance...

        Good hunting...

        'Saw.
        "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

        "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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        • #5
          Luke 12:35-48, ready and observing.
          Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim.
          ~ Be patient and tough; some day this pain will be useful to you.-Ovid

          Mus uni non fidit antro.
          ~ A mouse does not rely on just one hole.-Plautus

          Non semper erit aestas
          ~ It will not always be summer.

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          • #6
            No polite words to say! Might as well come lock me up now and I'll request my part of the stimulus to pay the 250G's. I have health care insurance but it's "My Choice" to carry it. I am against any mandated anything! Damn this news pisses me off!

            I'm out for a while, I need to take a walk in the cool night air.:mad:
            Being unprepared is giving up!

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            • #7
              i would not do anything that nutty bitch says!!!!

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              • #8
                #4 11-07-2009, 04:21 PM
                Big_Saw
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                Preparing for DEFCON 1.....
                Okay, the feds pass us into abject Imperialism....what now?


                Time to start laying out the "Chain" We links and strong links in your general area being 100 to 200 square miles. Find ways to enable them being linked together. Individual preppers to organized strong holds. If this crap gets through the Senate how long untill it is enforced? I bet they put 1-1/2 to 2 years down the road so it will slip behind the curtain. Then "BAM!".
                "And with a collection of minds and talent, they survived"

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                • #9
                  I would point out that, if they can give you 5 yrs in jail, that is felony territory.

                  Felony = no 2nd amendment rights.

                  This is one more way to pick us off.
                  "If Howdy Doody runs against him, I'm voting for the puppet." - SkyOwl's Wife, 2012

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                  • #10
                    As I think about this more my thoughts go here...
                    There are not enough jails to hold everyone who will and I emphasize WILL refuse to do this, thus the camps. I have wondered all along why all the camps? some say this is just paranoia but I'm starting to see the big picture now. As people start to protest and refuse to go along with the "plan" there well undoubtedly be some violence behind this and thus the camps. Hmmm......people we need to be prepared for what ever comes because of this action. It may be a couple of years down the road so I say take that time and be diligent.
                    Saw, keep up the good work!
                    Your opponet got stronger today, did you?
                    {{unswydd-Of One Purpose}}

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                    • #11
                      I'll add in my $.02 for whatever it's worth. I agree that they simply won't be able to pull that off IF enough people stand firm. It may take it into a new phase, Martial Law but I don't even think that will pan out for the goons.

                      Our plan is this; cashed out our PM's IRA to pay off our only debt, our morgage. We have enough land to raise our own produce( have been for almost 25 yrs.) and our own meat( for the past 7 yrs, since moving here). We've instituted things in order to live without the grid. We've been working on a strong bartering circle for the past 15+ yrs. We've established relationships with likeminded people, but have ceased at this point due to trust issues. We've tried to get our families on board, but some are still DGI's, sadly.

                      We just don't see having PM's on hand as being a priority, instead have invested in land, animals, feed for animals, items that are for barter and equipment needed to live without grid. When times get tough, exactly who are you going to barter a coin( gold or silver that you paid $1,100oz. or $18oz.) with, when they don't have anything that equals that amount. Silver makes more sense to invest in, as it is more affordable and could be easily traded for goods. Some one once advised us to invest in bricks of nickles, as they most likely won't loose their original value, always being worth $.05 and are easily exchanged in barter. It's a thought for those wishing to get out of fiat paper and who can't afford PM's. You can get these bricks from a bank( not your own, you don't want them to know) The cost is $100

                      We're praying and we've done all we possibly can at this point. Locked and loaded, is our motto now.

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