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    Handguns Will Be Allowed in Tennessee Bars and Restaurants
    Friday, June 05, 2009


    Print ShareThisHandguns will be permitted in bars and restaurants in Tennessee starting next month after a new law was passed — but many venue owners plan to ignore it.

    The law, which takes effect July 14, comes after state legislators voted to override the governor's veto.

    The legislation retains an existing ban on consuming alcohol while carrying a handgun, and restaurant owners can still opt to ban weapons from their establishments.

    Already, some are sounding off about the passage of the law. In Memphis, many bar owners are appalled by new legislation and are posting signs in their windows making it clear that weapons aren't allowed inside, despite what will soon become legal in the state.

    "I do not think they mix well," Benny Carter, owner of Murphy's in Midtown Memphis, told FOX 13 in Memphis. "I don't think anybody does. I don't think I'm alone as a bar owner and proprietor."

    Thirty-seven other states have similar laws.

    The state Senate voted 21-9 on Thursday against Democratic Gov. Phil Bredesen's veto, a day after the House also voted 69-27 to override.

    They overrode critics, including Bredesen, who said it's a bad idea to have guns and alcohol in close proximity.

    Democratic Sen. Doug Jackson, the main sponsor of the bill, said state Safety Department records show handgun permit holders in Tennessee are responsible.

    Of the roughly 218,000 handgun permit holders in Tennessee, 278 had their permits revoked last year, records show. Since 2005, state records shows nearly 1,200 people have lost their permits.

    Revocations are issued for felony convictions, while permits can be suspended for pending criminal charges or for court orders of protection.

    Sen. Andy Berke was the only senator to speak against overriding the veto Thursday.

    "I believe that we should follow the governor and rethink what we have done," he said.

    The law, which was supported by the National Rifle Association, has been successful in other states, its chief lobbyist said.

    "Of those 37 states, not one state has attempted to repeal or amend those statutes because they've been successful," Chris Cox said.

    Bredesen spokeswoman Lydia Lenker said after Wednesday's House vote that the Democratic governor expected an override when he vetoed the legislation last week.

    Following Thursday's Senate vote, Bredesen, who is a gun owner and hunter, reiterated his stance to reporters.

    "I still think I'm right," he said. "I still think that guns in bars is a very bad idea. It's an invitation to a disaster."

    Click here for more on this story from MyFOXMemphis.com.

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    Hmmm.. Alcohol and handguns..

    About 10 years ago I lived right smack dab in the middle of a bad area, surrounded by bars. Come the weekend, I could sit on my porch and watch the fights. Too many hot-heads for me to be comfortable with handguns in these bars. Instead of a case of getting their butt whooped over flirting with someone's woman, they could end up in a casket..

    I'm all for carrying, but I am torn on this one. Just sayin..

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    • #3
      [Hmmm.. Alcohol and handguns... Too many hot-heads for me to be comfortable with handguns in these bars. I'm all for carrying, but I am torn on this one. Just sayin..]

      I believe the intent of the bill is to allow weapons to be carried into establishments whose primary purpose is to serve meals but just so happen to sell alcoholic beverages as well.....those in possession of a weapon are not permitted to consume alcoholic beverages. I would wager that those you witnessed engaged in conflict in the past were not law abiding permit holders.
      O.W.
      Things are seldom what they seem.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Oscar Wilde View Post
        [Hmmm.. Alcohol and handguns... Too many hot-heads for me to be comfortable with handguns in these bars. I'm all for carrying, but I am torn on this one. Just sayin..]

        I believe the intent of the bill is to allow weapons to be carried into establishments whose primary purpose is to serve meals but just so happen to sell alcoholic beverages as well.....those in possession of a weapon are not permitted to consume alcoholic beverages. I would wager that those you witnessed engaged in conflict in the past were not law abiding permit holders.
        O.W.
        Oh, I thought it meant any old honky tonk. As for being a permit holder, I don't know if they were or not, however I knew some of those good ole boys personally and they were upright citizens during the week, but come the weekend (and bars), look out.

        Ok, I see they are not allowed to consume alcohol while carrying..so what is the big deal then?? :)
        Last edited by Lostinoz; 06-06-2009, 01:02 PM.

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        • #5
          [Ok, I see they are not allowed to consume alcohol while carrying..so what is the big deal then??]
          On the flip side of this coin....there are those with the underlying need to be a hero of sorts....that can turn out very bad. Then there might be those who, like soon to be DUI designee's have the thought " well maybe just one won't hurt anybody". Personally if I were concerned with my safety to such a point that I felt it necessary to carry a weapon into an establishment I probably wouldn't go in. My contention with this nonsense is that this argument exists. Laws continue to be legislated....which have absolutely NO affect on those who choose not to comply....but instead further encroach on our bill of rights. The laws that do exist are not effectively enforced and when they are the system molly coddles them and releases them early due to overcrowding .....we gotta have room for the drug addicts whose greatest crime is being foolish and inflicting harm on themselves. The proprietors of these establishments are able to post no weapons permitted signs....this should be right below the NO CELL PHONES permitted signs.
          O.W.
          Things are seldom what they seem.

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          • #6
            No cell phones
            No heathen children who cannot sit down
            No chewing with mouth open
            No swearing every other word

            Shoot, I'm just gonna stay home. :D My cooking is better anyway. :p

            Good to see you around Oscar, you have been quiet lately.

            P.S. ;) My biggest complaint is people who stare at me while I eat. I usually just give them a good view of what it is I am eating, though it doesn't bother me so much that I would shoot someone over it.

            I don't drink, so the bar situation is not something I would be concerned with AND I would not purposely go into an establishment in which I did not feel safe, either.

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            • #7
              Hi Oz!!!! This should probably be a pm....forgive me. I hope you are feeling well, I saw on another post....canning I imagine....you were to undergo surgery....some how I missed that then....I was looking for the potato canning recipe you sent me ....yes I lost it....its good to see you too. I don't go out much anymore either as I have been actively involved in " incidents" with folks who are not well mannered in public places.
              O.W.
              Last edited by Oscar Wilde; 06-06-2009, 10:19 PM.
              Things are seldom what they seem.

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