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  • HEADS UP!!! Prohibit Gun Sales To Anyone Gov Decides Is A “Terrorist"

    Holy crap, they aren't wasting any time! Full title is Bill In Congress Would Prohibit Gun Sales To Anyone Government Decides Is A “Terrorist”

    http://www.kxmc.com/News/Nation/373743.asp
    And the bill was introduced by a Republican, no less.

    A new gun law being considered in Congress, if aligned with Department of Homeland Security memos labeling everyday Americans as potential “threats,” could potentially deny firearms to pro-lifers, gun-rights advocates, tax protesters, animal rights activists, and a host of others – any already on the expansive DHS watch list for potential “extremism.”

    Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., has sponsored H.R. 2159, the Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2009, which permits the attorney general to deny transfer of a firearm to any “known or suspected dangerous terrorist.” The bill requires only that the potential firearm transferee is “appropriately suspected” of preparing for a terrorist act and that the attorney general “has a reasonable belief” that the gun might be used in connection with terrorism.

    Gun rights advocates, however, object to the bill’s language, arguing that it enables the federal government to suspend a person’s Second Amendment rights without any trial or legal proof and only upon suspicion of being “dangerous.”

    I don’t think anyone really has a problem with keeping weapons out of the hands of terrorists. The problems arise when it comes to who gets to define who is and is not a “terrorist.” And what standards are used. Also, since when can our rights be denied us because we might commit a crime?

    According to the Department of Homeland Security attending a tea party, being a federalist, having an NRA sticker on your car or being pro-life indicates that you may be a terrorist. Or may, at least, have inclinations toward extremism and violence.

    Now, I doubt that even if this law passed that we’d see a crackdown on gun-owning pro-life activists. But the problem here is that this law provides such a vague definition of who may and may exercise their 2nd amendment rights that the door is left wide open to no small amount of abuse.

    Vaguely-written laws like this are extremely problematic because they put the decision as to whether or not we’ve committed a crime entirely as the discretion of cops and prosecutors. And if that’s the case, the only thing keeping us from being arrested and/or prosecuted are the whims of our law enforcement agents.

    Emphasis is mine. Since this asshat administration is all about totally ignoring the constitution and giving goodies to favored groups and people and has already shown that they are all about selective enforcement (tax laws, anyone?), call/write your congress critters about THIS one!
    "If Howdy Doody runs against him, I'm voting for the puppet." - SkyOwl's Wife, 2012

  • #2
    I'm on it! Thanks for the heads up Wife.

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    • #3
      The bill number is H.R. 2159

      Relevant portions:
      'Sec. 922A. Attorney General's discretion to deny transfer of a firearm

      `The Attorney General may deny the transfer of a firearm pursuant to section 922(t)(1)(B)(ii) if the Attorney General determines that the transferee is known (or appropriately suspected) to be or have been engaged in conduct constituting, in preparation for, in aid of, or related to terrorism, or providing material support thereof, and the Attorney General has a reasonable belief that the prospective transferee may use a firearm in connection with terrorism.';

      (2) by inserting the following new section after section 922A:

      `Sec. 922B. Attorney General's discretion regarding applicants for firearm permits which would qualify for the exemption provided under section 922(t)(3)


      `The Attorney General may determine that an applicant for a firearm permit which would qualify for an exemption under section 922(t) is known (or appropriately suspected) to be or have been engaged in conduct constituting, in preparation for, in aid of, or related to terrorism, or providing material support thereof, and the Attorney General has a reasonable belief that the applicant may use a firearm in connection with terrorism.'; and

      (3) in section 921(a), by adding at the end the following:

      `(36) The term `terrorism' means `international terrorism' as defined in section 2331(1), and `domestic terrorism' as defined in section 2331(5).

      `(37) The term `material support' means `material support or resources' within the meaning of section 2339A or 2339B.

      Gee, I guess if you are identified as a right wing extremist by DHS, you might be appropriately suspected, huh?

      And by the way, I know the term "reasonably suspected," but what does "appropriately suspected" mean?

      And then there's this:
      (h) Attorney General's Ability To Withhold Information in Relief From Disabilities Lawsuits- Section 925(c) of such title is amended by inserting after the 3rd sentence the following: `If receipt of a firearms by the person would violate section 922(g)(10), any information which the Attorney General relied on for this determination may be withheld from the applicant if the Attorney General determines that disclosure of the information would likely compromise national security. In responding to the petition, the United States may submit, and the court may rely on, summaries or redacted versions of documents containing information the disclosure of which the Attorney General has determined would likely compromise national security.'.

      They don't even have to tell you WHY you've been denied.
      "If Howdy Doody runs against him, I'm voting for the puppet." - SkyOwl's Wife, 2012

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      • #4
        Thanks.... I'm on it too... This is a load of crap... I already own many guns ... what next, a knock on my door wanting my guns? NOT!

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