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  • Tugaloo
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    OT,
    In Germany, the police removed Greta Thurnburg and her demonstrators to mine more coal. Every industrial nation in the world uses fossil fuels to create energy to power their economies. America could have easily provided Europe with LNG except Biden shut down a huge Alaskan oil and LNG operation.
    "They" are not trying to make us like the rest of the world; "they" are destroying our economy and our nation. "Their" plans are not to make us the same as other nations; judging by "their" actions, we will be unique as in Green, woke and broke.

    In Brazil, does anyone believe they stopped burning the forests to grow food? Anyone going believe China, India and others are going to go green? Hell, they ain't that stupid.


    I've already posted quite a few links here, try viewing them and clicking on the links.



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  • orangetom1999
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    Oh no I am not Tugaloo.....

    Someone out here is trying to make us like the rest of the world......Subjects and not citizens...,..

    To make us conform to the world's beliefs and standards..not Americanism....to make us in second, third, and fourth place in our own nation.....as is being done in the UK and Europe......Ishmaelites. I'd say it is the same Usual Suspects trying to do this to us....as is in the UK and or Europe.

    As our economy goes into the crapper...these policies will take place here as well.


    Better that I worshipped the demi gods of sports and or the Kardashians...et al...



    Orangetom
    Not and Ishmaelite.

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  • Tugaloo
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    The major bank is NatWest.
    For Cash Withdrawals between £5,000 - £19,999, it is advisable to give us 24 hours notice, particularly is you would like specific denominations.

    For Cash Withdrawals over £20,000, we require 3 business days notice.​
    Cash Withdrawals guidance in FAQs is for personal customers only. Cash withdrawal requests over the counter can be supported during Monday to Friday


    NatWest is Somewhere in England? Anyhow, it's over there and not here. We have enough to worry about here without stressing over NatWest's policies.

    OT, I doubted you would see any difference.

    As America is in debt for $31.8 trillion, I'd bet no monarch was it debt to the Rothschild family for near that.

    Continuously Updated US National Debt Clock Real Time US Debt Clock, Mortgage Calculator, Loan Calculator


    You're worried about everything except your own nation.


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  • orangetom1999
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    Tugaloo....

    Correct...

    We store money in banks for a very low interest rate. Banks loan our money to others and charge them a higher interest rate. The problem is after almost all the funds are loaned; if depositors want their money, it's game over.
    Oh...before I forget...I found this today...and have been wondering when this was coming......

    Major Bank Demands Customers Prove Withdrawals Are Valid, Warns Cash Can Be Refused At Will (msn.com)



    and about this...

    OT. you can focus on kings as we lack monarchy and have crooked easy to buy politicians, I'll focus on them.
    I don't see any difference...in what our leadership has become and monarchy..the results are the same.

    Also ...historically many governments and their Monarchy have gotten into huge debt to the big money changers/lenders...including the Rothschild family....and that family wound up running many nations and their governments/ monarchies....in secret.

    This is a very concealed, covered up history......to be ever concealed and never revealed....


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Orangetom​







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  • Tugaloo
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    We store money in banks for a very low interest rate. Banks loan our money to others and charge them a higher interest rate. The problem is after almost all the funds are loaned; if depositors want their money, it's game over.

    The right to rule belongs to the elitists with huge amounts of money. Simply because our government is bought and paid for by the rich. American rich or Chinese rich as long as they pay, they can play.

    OT. you can focus on kings as we lack monarchy and have crooked easy to buy politicians, I'll focus on them.

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  • orangetom1999
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    agree we already have a type of digital currency.....



    A few banks defaulted because depositors wanted their money.. As banks make a lot of money loaning their depositor's low interest paying money and charging a higher interest to the borrowers.
    Thought it has been awhile ...I think this was called a Fractional Reserve System..

    Some tended to call it a Fictional Reserve System.



    Add, with CCs or checks is those who spend more money than they have their CC is locked or the checks bounce.
    Wondering to myself if this will happen to the Federal Government with the debt talks going on ..

    Imagine that ....a Government limited and accountable for it's spending habits.....Wow..!!

    No more Absolute Power.....Divine Right of Kings!!!


    But also wondering about the chaos it will cause to the nation's economy.


    Seems to me the tendency of governments historically is to cut every and anything but government.....


    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Orangetom

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  • Tugaloo
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    We sold a house and the funds were wired from one bank to another. Imagine walking out of a closing carrying 1,000 $100 bills for every $100,000 from the sale?

    When I go shopping, the fact most pay with a credit card or a check is obvious. So in a fashion, we already have paperless currency. Add, with CCs or checks is those who spend more money than they have their CC is locked or the checks bounce.

    A few banks defaulted because depositors wanted their money.. As banks make a lot of money loaning their depositor's low interest paying money and charging a higher interest to the borrowers.


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  • WeltZumerr12
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    when it comes to something like digital currency. I'm sure the more informed members of this forum can offer more insight into the matter


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  • orangetom1999
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    Remember something today Tugaloo.....

    It is costing some 15 to 20 cents today to print and issue out a 1 dollar bill.

    They are losing money on the paper notes.....big time due to the inflation they are creating .

    They are getting bit by their own creation.....

    This is the other reason they want to go to digital monies...among other reasons too.


    Their 500 000% has drastically fallen too .due to inflation...they are going broke!!! Losing control!!!!!


    Ishmaelites run wild!!!!

    My non Ishmaelite .02,
    Orangetom

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  • orangetom1999
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    Tugaloo....

    From page 2 of this thread...

    If paper money did exist before the War of Independence, why are you against it.
    also..



    I have a publication in my private collection called "Dollar Coin Points" printed by the Federal 'Reserve Bank and trying to introduce the Susan B, Anthony dollar coin.

    The very strange thing in this pamphlet is that they are admitting that they get a dollar bill for nearly 2 cents and that on the average a dollar bill...paper note ...lasts on the average six months....

    Now remember this publication was describing conditions before and up to the issuance of the Susan B ,Anthony dollar coin.

    They claimed the Susan B, Anthony coin would last much longer than the six months of the paper dollar notes.

    However....


    I have enough acumen to realize that if they get dollar notes for nearly .2 cents per 100 cent note..or dollar....this is a 5000% mark up as we give up one dollar of our labor to get one.

    I also have enough acumen to realize that they get 100 dollar bills for the same price......no more paper and no more ink and we give up 100 dollars of our labor to get one....yes????

    This Tugaloo....represents a 500,000 % mark up on a 100 dollar bill by someone in the system.


    Catching on yet?????

    Unbacked paper monies ???? Catching on yet...

    Understand why they want to go to digital monies?? Again ...do I need a PHD to understand this.


    Explain to me how a government making 500 000 % mark up on a 100 dollar bill could possibly be interested in balancing a budget ???

    I understood this way back in the 1980s. under Ronald Reagan.....that they never intended to balance the budget...ever.


    Unbacked paper money.....really...????

    This is bondage....Ishmael.


    All nations are today playing the unbacked paper money game.....and will eventually be conned by their own government excess/largess//inflation.


    BE Warned these Ishmaelites,

    My Non Ishmaelite .02,
    Orangetom

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  • orangetom1999
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    I know about what happened in France....they just reworked the laws to take some of the zeros off the currency...it was getting too difficult to keep track of the zeros.
    ]
    Manufactured Inflation.

    They did not learn from the post revolution Assignats....versus the gold Louis.

    They just repeated the history....or whomever it was who stated about repeating history.

    The Franc went the way of the Italian Lire..


    Yes, I know you believe our dollar backed with PMs we can't afford would be different. Just how would we buy all those PMs to back the dollar with our devalued dollar.

    What I believe in is Limited Government.....Unlimited finances on the part of government by unbacked monies is not limited government.

    An Unbacked dollar does not limit the Government penchant for manufacturing inflation....and further buying up huge portions of the economy.

    This to the point where the people , over time, become competitors in the only economy out here against government largess.


    I have read John Maynard Keynes..."The Economic Consequences of the Peace>" I believe this was done about 1919.

    What Keynes quotes about inflation/depreciation is quite startling considering how many times since it has taken place with devastating effects on nations and people.
    Talking about history repeating itself.


    Oh...by the way........

    The reason you back money is because the stuff being used for money is not real money.

    Real money never needs backing. Real money is a storehouse of value....paper is not a storehouse of value when government can print or issue ad infinitum....and the Federal Reserve banks will tell you that the government can issue or print unlimited....or if you prefer...borrow unlimited on the government debt.


    Orangetom
    Not an Ishmaelite

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  • Tugaloo
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    History is a great teacher; however, that is real history and not as Winston Churchill once remarked: "History is written by the victors." Then there was Hermann Göring's version "We will go down in history either as the world's greatest statesmen or its worst villains." A search would quickly show there are many other versions.
    I find Napoleon's version “History is a set of lies agreed upon.” is quite interesting​

    Backing the dollar with gold isn't possible because there isn't that much gold available. We could follow in France's foot steps.

    As you disagreed with my history is a great teacher by your response of "I think not ...particularly in certain aspects of monetary policy..." Here's the history of the French franc and centime​

    "As the value of the franc diminished over the centuries, it was replaced by the ‘new’ franc in 1960, with 100 old francs being worth one new Franc. The old franc became the valid ‘centime’ coin after the devaluation of the currency, and continued to be for some years."

    A franc was France's dollar and the centime was their penny. The short for us would be 100 dollars would be 100 pennies.

    Did that fix France's monetary problems? No it didn't.; so let's fast forward to 17 February 2005 when it happened again.

    "The coins were exchangeable to 17 February 2005 only at Banque de France, by converting their total value in francs to euros at the fixed rate of 6.55957 francs for one euro. All the banknotes were convertible up until 17 February 2012. By that date, franc banknotes worth round €550 million remained unexchanged. That allowed the French state to register the respective sum as revenue.

    Forty years later, many older French still convert prices into ‘old francs’. This is complicated for us newcomers who expect to hear a price of, say, 25 euros, and get told the price is 20,000 francs!​"


    The franc has a long history, dating back to the 14th century - it was introduced by King John II in 1360 and lasted ...


    Perhaps seeing a price of 25 euros, and get told the price is 20,000 dollars.​"

    Yes, I know you believe our dollar backed with PMs we can't afford would be different. Just how would we buy all those PMs to back the dollar with our devalued dollar.

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  • orangetom1999
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    Really....Tugaloo...

    History is a great teacher.
    I think not ...particularly in certain aspects of monetary policy.......

    Cheap money leads to government excess.....always ...without exception...because governments tend to over print...over issue and this will not change with digital currency.


    Any of the older Federal Reserve Publications will tell you that inflation/depreciation is disguised taxation....,..we are being taxed twice....

    People wonder why they are angry ...but never have sufficient acumen or information to understand..


    I care not one whit what they teach in public schools about taxation.......

    For people who work and take risks for their monies.....inflation is work we do for which we get no choices or decisions in how we spend our monies.....

    Precisely what is a tax....."work we do for which we get no choices or decisions in how we spend our monies....."


    History is a great teacher......explain that to those folks working for more and more war in the Ukraine...they must have skipped class.


    We are being taxed twice.....in the loss of purchasing power of the dollar...with no end in sight....taxed if you prefer..

    I do not need a PHD to figure this out....



    And when this thing with inflation verily gets out of hand ...it will hit those on fixed incomes the worst.....and always does.



    Ishmaelites run wild ..with their Occult, Concealed, Hidden form of bondage....double taxation.


    No wonder they hated Trump....Trump gave us a clue ...in that he verily liked Andrew Jackson....


    Ishsmaelites run wild......for their form of bondage...


    My Non Ishmaelite .02,
    Orangetom




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  • Tugaloo
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    OJ,
    The question is the unbacked dollar was once a global currency of choice for world trade. Today, nations are changing to other unbacked paper currencies; the Yuan is one.
    China controls the value of the Yuan and by keeping its value low their exports are more "affordable."

    Given the key roles of monetary contraction and the gold standard in causing the Great Depression, it is not surprising that currency devaluations and monetary expansion were the leading sources of recovery throughout the world. There is a notable correlation between the times at which countries abandoned the gold standard (or devalued their currencies substantially) and when they experienced renewed growth in their output.
    Great Depression - Recovery Sources: Currency devaluations and monetary expansion were the leading sources of recovery throughout the world


    Once France was on the gold standard.
    As the value of the franc diminished over the centuries, it was replaced by the ‘new’ franc in 1960, with 100 old francs being worth one new Franc. The old franc became the valid ‘centime’ coin after the devaluation of the currency, and continued to be for some years.
    The coins were exchangeable to 17 February 2005 only at Banque de France, by converting their total value in francs to euros at the fixed rate of 6.55957 francs for one euro. All the banknotes were convertible up until 17 February 2012.By that date, franc banknotes worth round €550 million remained unexchanged. That allowed the French state to register the respective sum as revenue.

    Forty years later, many older French still convert prices into ‘old francs’. This is complicated for us newcomers who expect to hear a price of, say, 25 euros, and get told the price is 20,000 francs!​
    The franc has a long history, dating back to the 14th century - it was introduced by King John II in 1360 and lasted ...


    Simply said this is an example of what you're proposing.

    History is a great teacher.

    AJ,
    You're exactly correct. The massive surge across our borders is simply to keep the dash Ds in power..

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  • Armyjimbo
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    And the way things are looking here comes how many new votes in the country

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