Shooting on movie set 1 dead and 1 wounded

[Tugaloo]

Has anybody seen an update on this story? Supposedly the FBI was testing the gun to see if it was defective, which the "experts" say is the only way it could have happened the way Alec Baldwin described it.

Here's two recent articles:

https://nypost.com/2022/01/07/new-mexico-authorities-work-to-get-alec-baldwins-cellphone/

https://nypost.com/2022/01/07/lawyer...ver-his-phone/

[Garand]

Remember the old saying, "Guns don't kill people, Alec Baldwin kills people"!

[Tugaloo]

I have........in fact several. "Slam Fires" be one example.

I've never heard of a "slam fire" with a SA revolver.

[Sourdough]

I've never heard of a "slam fire" with a SA revolver.

I have never heard of it either. Your "misunderstanding" what I said. I was responding to YOUR statement, "That NO firearm could fire without the trigger pulled".

[Sourdough]

I have never heard of it either. Your "misunderstanding" what I said. I was responding to someone's statement, "That NO firearm could never fire without the trigger pulled".

SEE post #9 this thread.

[Tugaloo]

I have........in fact several. "Slam Fires" be one example.

As the movie Rust is about a family in Kansas in the 1880s.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11001074/

Slam fires as we know were not possible with revolvers unless he was "fanning" it.. Or holding the trigger back while cocking the hammer and releasing it.

If Baldwin was using a replica; as I don't own one, I don't know if fanning is possible.

Although over a month old here:

UPDATE 12-2-2021 9:33 PM: Alec Baldwin offered further details on how the deadly shooting occurred in the full ABC News interview. Baldwin claims he acted at the direction of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins when he accidentally shot and killed her.

“I cock the gun. I go, ‘Can you see that? Can you see that? Can you see that?’” Baldwin told ABC. “And then I let go of the hammer of the gun, and the gun goes off. I let go of the hammer of the gun, the gun goes off.”

This version of events is even more difficult to square with the idea that Baldwin never pulled the trigger.

When the hammer is pulled back on a single-action revolver a series of sears are engaged which prevent it from moving back towards the chamber without the trigger being depressed. There are scenarios where the gun might be able to fire after the hammer is pulled back but without the trigger being pulled. However, they’re even more unlikely than a discharge with the hammer all the way down.

The first is that Baldwin managed to pull the hammer back far enough that releasing created a strong enough strike against the primer to set it off, but not far enough to engage the sear at quarter or half cock. That is, frankly, implausible.

The next possibility is a physical defect with the gun. The sears could have been so worn out they don’t catch the hammer as Baldwin manipulates it. But, that’s not likely either since it would be clear to anyone who handled the gun that it was broken.

What seems far more likely is Baldwin kept the trigger depressed as he pulled the hammer back. Then, when he released the hammer, the trigger kept the sears out of the way, and the gun fired. Perhaps Baldwin is making some kind of semantic argument about pulling a trigger rather than keeping it depressed while cocking the hammer, but that’s a distinction without a difference.

The most likely scenario remains that Baldwin had his finger on the trigger when the gun fired. His full comments make that even more likely.

https://thereload.com/analysis-yes-alec-baldwins-gun-could-have-fired-without-him-pulling-the-trigger/

As the revolver is an Italian clone and I don't own one. I don't know if Baldwin's version is possible. I do know he violated every possible safety rule.

[RICHFL]

My question today is why did it take a court warrant to get this actors cell phone? It should have been taken into custody as evidence asap!!! Why 30+ days???

[Tugaloo]

My question today is why did it take a court warrant to get this actors cell phone? It should have been taken into custody as evidence asap!!! Why 30+ days???

As if it was any of us; it would have been confiscated already.

[Garand]

Watching a blog from a Texas Attorney recently on the lawsuit filed, found out that the lawyers who generated the law suits are required by law to turn all their evidence that they find over to the local Prosecutor, which means double the investigators. This should make any attempted coverup difficult.

[Tugaloo]

As Baldwin is rich and as usual we will see as so-called justice is different for the rich than us.

After all, OJ's lawyers "proved" DNA testing is unreliable.. ROFLMBO!

[Tugaloo]

"Alec Baldwin seemingly blames Halyna Hutchins, who he is accused of shooting, for her own death"

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/alec-baldwin-seemingly-blames-halyna-hutchins-for-her-own-death/

Blaming the victim for their own death, what a defense.

[Garand]

Just my humble opinion!

[Tugaloo]

Garand,
With my old revolvers, I can hold the trigger back and "fan" hammer. Same as Clint Eastwood's westerns. ;)
What I don't know is the Italian clone Baldwin was using supports fanning.

[Garand]

Apparently with all the U Tube recreations unless the firearm has broken parts, the way Baldwin explains it, it is impossible. I'm sure the pistol has been submitted to the FBI for ballistics and to certify serviceability. If the FBI declares it serviceable, Baldwin is hooped!

[Tugaloo]

Apparently with all the U Tube recreations unless the firearm has broken parts, the way Baldwin explains it, it is impossible. I'm sure the pistol has been submitted to the FBI for ballistics and to certify serviceability. If the FBI declares it serviceable, Baldwin is hooped!

Baldwin is playing the although she is dead and I shot her. I'll have y'all know, I'm the victim. Classic bottom feeder.

Don't forget, the FBI "lost" Hunter Biden's laptop. The owner of the computer repair business kept a copy and he lost his business for sharing it.