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    Well, this is my first thread. And I am not as sharp as our freind "Lostinoz", when talking of news, but you still might find it interesting. I have traveled to the East many times over the last 3 years. My wife is from there. She asked her daughter to withdraw some money from her bank in Kiev last week. They said no. The next day, they said okay 800 Grevnas ($100.00 USD) My wife has over 20,000 usd in the bank. I check the news there everyweek, as in a few other countries as well for I have some freinds there too. I was pulling together bank news from different capitals and cities there. Then I found this, and everything else I collected did'nt seem important. Forget about socialism for a minute. The world thinks we are going to crash anyway.
    (post note.. I don't really care what they think, but I fear the dollar is going down the crapper. Let's pray it don't. PF)

    Russian Scholar Predicts Collapse of US Next Year
    Published 2 hours ago by ■ Leo Reyes


    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/268498 (you can check it out too….PF)

    A Russian scholar, dean and former spokesman of the Russian space agency predicts that the US will collapse next year and Russia and China will emerge as the new backbone of world economic order.
    Igor Panarin, former spokesman of the Russian Space Agency and Dean of the foreign ministry’s school for diplomats, predicts that the US will collapse as early as next year.
    Among his major predictions:
    • President Barack Obama will declare martial law this year
    • The US will split into six rump-states before 2011 and
    • Russia and China will become the backbones of a new world order.
    ‘There is a high probability that the collapse of the United States will occur by 2010’ Panarin told dozens of students, professors and diplomats Tuesday at the Diplomatic Academy-a lecture the ministry pointedly invited The Associated Press and other foreign media to attend.
    The prediction from Panarin, a former spokesman for Russia’s Federal Space Agency and reportedly at an ex-KGB analyst, meshes with the negative view of the US that has been flowing from the Kremlin in recent years, in particular from Vladimir Putin, Fox news reports.
    Putin the former president who is now Prime Minister, has likened the United States to Nazi Germany’s Third Reich and blames Washington for the global financial crises that has pounded the Russian economy, the report added.
    On issues with social relevance, Panarin argued that ‘Americans are in moral decline, saying their great emotional distress is evident from school shootings, the size of prison population and the number of gay men’
    On the economy, he cited the decline of GNP and the slide of major stock indexes. He also said that the bailout of the citigroup is evidence that American dominance in the global market has collapsed. On the whole he said that it is in effect the ‘collapse of the American dream’.
    Panarin said that China and Russia will emerge from the current economic turmoil much stronger and saw the possibility that the two emerging powers will play a major role in world economic order. He also saw the possibility that a new currency will replace the US dollar as a major world currency as a result of the Russia-China alliance.
    Some scholars and economists disagree with Panarin’s views.
    11
    There is a slim chance.
    27.27%
    3
    There is 50% chance
    27.27%
    3
    There is a greater than 50% chance
    9.09%
    1
    I fear that this or something very similar will happen
    36.36%
    4

    The poll is expired.

    Last edited by pathfinder3081; 03-04-2009, 04:28 PM. Reason: Post note
    "And with a collection of minds and talent, they survived"

  • #2
    Gee, Thanks.... Your a little ray of sunlight...:eek:

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    • #3
      Sorry Bryon. I did this S & P in 2001 and stopped because I was not a "Happy man" anymore (lol).. Wanna buy some 10 year old MRE's?
      "And with a collection of minds and talent, they survived"

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      • #4
        LOL! I may be giving you a shout on those.

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        • #5
          Aww Pathfinder, you give me WAY too much credit. I am just a very opinionated person. :D I enjoy a good debate and always refuse to reduce to mud-slinging and name-calling as I appreciate ALL views and opinions.

          I read this "prediction" a while back and I believe there is a very slim chance of all of it happening. The reason I believe this is very simple as I don't believe he understands the WILL or RESISTANCE that would be garnered by a multitude of people. I am perhaps an idealist, which is most probable. :D

          I do HOPE that people would rise up against such actions, though I admit to being disappointed in the majority at the moment as we are on a socialist course, full steam ahead.

          If I am correct, he believes that Texas, New Mexico, Arkansas and several other states will be under the control of Mexico. Tennessee, Kentucky and the Carolinas' will be controlled by the EU. The western states would be controlled by China, etc.

          As far Obama declaring Martial Law, that is a possibility, though I doubt that would sit well with a lot of folks, either.

          Wasn't this fella also former (as if there is such a thing) KGB? Even though he has stated that he does not dislike America, I have to wonder if a lot of this is not wishful thinking on his part, and let's face it, several other countries/people as well.?

          He talks about the moral decline, etc., etc., in terms of bringing down America and I cannot disagree that we (as a country) are involved in a lot of bad crap, but SO IS everyone else. If he believes we are in need of greater judgment than any other country, that is his opinion, I just happen to disagree with that. (going Biblical, sin is sin :))

          He believes that Russia and China will emerge stronger..may be? I don't know. However, I am HOPING that a lot of American people wake up to what is going on and become stronger as individuals, as well.

          I do know that "we the people" need to work together, and I am not saying with government involvement, but TOGETHER to make our country great again.

          Just some thoughts.. :)

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          • #6
            Lost,

            Back in 2007, I started a political campaign. In my few speeches, I stated that there were four (4) major threats to the U.S.

            4. Russia - They have tremendous natural resources, millions of "workers", a political organization to enforce their orders and a tremendous military to enforce their dominance.

            3. China - They have adequate natural resources, millions of "workers", a political organization to enforce their orders and a tremendous military to enforce their dominance.

            2. Illegal Immigration - They have millions of "workers", they have militant political organization to enforce their orders and a tremendous number of criminal gangs to enforce their dominance, all the while bleeding the U.S. dry with social services demands.

            1. Liberals / Socialists - They have millions of "supporters", they have militant political organizations to enact their changes to socialism, they have control of the media and the education system, they would gain control of the government in ways that they can enforce their dominance, all the while bleeding the U.S dry with social services demands and the elimination of it's freedoms.

            I had premonitions back in 2007 of the terrible problems we now face today.
            If it looks ignernt, but it works, then it ain't ignernt.

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            • #7
              *shiver*............*shiver*...............
              "I Have Sworn Upon the Altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson

              "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." -Frederic Bastiat

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              • #8
                Net!! No I would not take to a shiver. But as I travel abroad, I do not like the the way the USD is going. It is so odd, when you go east.. USD was supported by our gold standard. USD is there gold "standard". It is funny to exchange with smiles as they take you paper under a black light "glow light".. Whatever they use, from the corner store to the pump and munch. It does bring me worry, I do hope that it does not any more. PF
                Last edited by pathfinder3081; 03-06-2009, 04:59 PM.
                "And with a collection of minds and talent, they survived"

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                • #9
                  Well, I think his predictions are wrong, he is a little biased.

                  He has a valid point though.

                  The US is in moral decline. - Hard to argue with that.

                  Our greatest threat is likely Mexico, only country close enough to cause us trouble. I know some in Mexico are militants and want to take back the southwest, they don't have the ability to do this in my opinion.

                  Who knows, but I think his Russia China new world order is just his desire
                  My weapon can kill, it isn't limited to mere assault

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Vicious Ignernt View Post
                    Lost,

                    Back in 2007, I started a political campaign. In my few speeches, I stated that there were four (4) major threats to the U.S.

                    4. Russia - They have tremendous natural resources, millions of "workers", a political organization to enforce their orders and a tremendous military to enforce their dominance.

                    3. China - They have adequate natural resources, millions of "workers", a political organization to enforce their orders and a tremendous military to enforce their dominance.

                    2. Illegal Immigration - They have millions of "workers", they have militant political organization to enforce their orders and a tremendous number of criminal gangs to enforce their dominance, all the while bleeding the U.S. dry with social services demands.

                    1. Liberals / Socialists - They have millions of "supporters", they have militant political organizations to enact their changes to socialism, they have control of the media and the education system, they would gain control of the government in ways that they can enforce their dominance, all the while bleeding the U.S dry with social services demands and the elimination of it's freedoms.

                    I had premonitions back in 2007 of the terrible problems we now face today.
                    Vicious,

                    I agree. These 4 threats are very real and we, as a country, will have to face each of them at some point in time. I have no doubt about that.

                    We cannot get rid of #2 without first dealing with #1, that is a given. There are too many out there pushing their agendas and count on the votes of the illegals to stay in office. (ok, I have no idea if this is factual, but I am tired and am not going to research it at the moment :), but it sounds about right)

                    As for Russia, well, Russia is and will always be a force to reckon with. I just don't believe in this particular Russian's prediction of the U.S. being split up by states and owned by different countries. I think that is a bit of wishful thinking on his part. If it does come to that point, I hope I am not around to see it. (yes, I am female and an emotional thinker :p)

                    An invasion will come sure enough on our lands, I don't doubt that either. Our government can barely find its' butt with both hands, so it will be left to the people to stand their ground and defend their territories. How? I have no idea. I believe that "we" have the greatest military on earth, however our government is made up of a bunch of liberals, so...

                    I am rather amazed at how well Obama managed to rally so many people behind him and his agenda. There are SO MANY like-minded people on internet boards and in our country that think and believe as we do here at xcolony, yet I do not see the same organization as the Obama supporters show.

                    :(

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