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    Fact check: Obama glosses over some realities
    In delivering his to-do list, the president's assertions deserve scrutiny
    The Associated Press
    updated 11:51 p.m. ET, Tues., Feb. 24, 2009
    WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama's assurance Tuesday that his mortgage-relief plan will only benefit deserving homeowners appears to be a stretch.

    Even officials in his administration, many supporters of the plan in Congress and the Federal Reserve chairman expect some of that money will go to people who should have known better than to buy that huge house.

    The president glossed over a number of complex realities in delivering his speech to Congress and a nation hungry for economic salvation.

    A look at some of his assertions:

    OBAMA: "We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages. It's a plan that won't help speculators or that neighbor down the street who bought a house he could never hope to afford, but it will help millions of Americans who are struggling with declining home values."

    THE FACTS: If the administration has come up with a way to ensure money does not go to home buyers who used bad judgment, it hasn't announced it.

    Defending the program Tuesday at a Senate hearing, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said it's important to save some of those people for the greater good. He likened it to calling the fire department to put out a blaze caused by someone smoking in bed.

    "I think the smart way to deal with a situation like that is to put out the fire, save him from his own consequences of his own action but then, going forward, enact penalties and set tougher rules about smoking in bed."

    Similarly, the head of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. suggested this month it's not likely aid will be denied to all homeowners who overstated their income or assets to get a mortgage they couldn't afford.

    "I think it's just simply impractical to try to do a forensic analysis of each and every one of these delinquent loans," Sheila Bair told National Public Radio.


    OBAMA: "We have already identified $2 trillion in savings over the next decade."

    THE FACTS: Although 10-year projections are common in government, they don't mean much. And at times, they are a way for a president to pass on the most painful steps to his successor, by putting off big tax increases or spending cuts until someone else is in the White House.

    Obama only has a real say on spending during the four years of his term. He may not be president after that and he certainly won't be 10 years from now.

    OBAMA: "Regulations were gutted for the sake of a quick profit at the expense of a healthy market. People bought homes they knew they couldn't afford from banks and lenders who pushed those bad loans anyway. And all the while, critical debates and difficult decisions were put off for some other time on some other day."

    THE FACTS: This may be so, but it isn't only Republicans who pushed for deregulation of the financial industries. The Clinton administration championed an easing of banking regulations, including legislation that ended the barrier between regular banks and Wall Street banks. That led to a deregulation that kept regular banks under tight federal regulation but extended lax regulation of Wall Street banks. Clinton Treasury Secretary Robert Rubin, later an economic adviser to candidate Obama, was in the forefront in pushing for this deregulation.


    OBAMA: "In this budget, we will end education programs that don't work and end direct payments to large agribusinesses that don't need them. We'll eliminate the no-bid contracts that have wasted billions in Iraq, and reform our defense budget so that we're not paying for Cold War-era weapons systems we don't use. We will root out the waste, fraud and abuse in our Medicare program that doesn't make our seniors any healthier, and we will restore a sense of fairness and balance to our tax code by finally ending the tax breaks for corporations that ship our jobs overseas."

    THE FACTS: First, his budget does not accomplish any of that. It only proposes those steps. That's all a president can do, because control over spending rests with Congress. Obama's proposals here are a wish list and some items, including corporate tax increases and cuts in agricultural aid, will be a tough sale in Congress.

    Second, waste, fraud and abuse are routinely targeted by presidents who later find that the savings realized seldom amount to significant sums. Programs that a president might consider wasteful have staunch defenders in Congress who have fought off similar efforts in the past.


    OBAMA: "In the last eight years, (health insurance) premiums have grown four times faster than wages. And in each of these years, 1 million more Americans have lost their health insurance"

    THE FACTS: The number of uninsured grew by 7 million from 2000 to 2007, the latest year for which Census figures are available, meaning Obama's claim would be true if had been talking about averages. But it's not true that the number of uninsured rose each year by 1 million. In 2007, the ranks of the uninsured dropped by 1.3 million from the year before, to 45.7 million.

    OBAMA: "Thanks to our recovery plan, we will double this nation's supply of renewable energy in the next three years."

    THE FACTS: While the president's stimulus package includes billions in aids for renewable energy and conservation, his goal is unlikely to be achieved through the recovery plan alone.

    In 2007, the U.S. produced 8.4 percent of its electricity from renewable sources including hydroelectric dams, solar panels and windmills. Under the status quo, the Energy Department says, it will take more than two decades to boost that figure to 12.5 percent.

    If Obama is to achieve his much more ambitious goal, Congress would need to mandate it. That is the thrust of an energy bill that is expected to be introduced in coming weeks.

    OBAMA: "Over the next two years, this plan will save or create 3.5 million jobs."

    THE FACTS: This is a recurrent Obama formulation. But job creation projections are uncertain even in stable times, and some of the economists relied on by Obama in making his forecast acknowledge a great deal of uncertainty in their numbers.

    The president's own economists, in a report prepared last month, stated, "It should be understood that all of the estimates presented in this memo are subject to significant margins of error."

    Beyond that, it's unlikely the nation will ever know how many jobs are saved as a result of the stimulus. While it's clear when jobs are abolished, there's no economic gauge that tracks job preservation. The estimates are based on economic assumptions of how many jobs would be lost without the stimulus.

    OBAMA: "And I believe the nation that invented the automobile cannot walk away from it."

    THE FACTS: According to the Library of Congress, the inventor of the first true automobile was probably Germany's Karl Benz, who created the first auto powered by an internal combustion gasoline, in 1885 or 1886. Nobody disputes that Henry Ford created the first assembly line that made cars affordable.


    Jindal's response
    Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, giving the Republican response to Obama's speech, ran off the tracks with one claim about the stimulus plan.

    JINDAL: The plan is "larded with wasteful spending," including "$8 billion for high-speed rail projects, such as a magnetic levitation line from Las Vegas to Disneyland."

    THE FACTS: Jindal was echoing an often-used Republican complaint that is an oversimplification. GOP budget hawks have dubbed the train "the Sin Express," and say it will soak up much of the rail money. But that's not a done deal. Competition for the mass transit money is just starting, and backers of other projects across the nation -- including one through Obama's home state of Illinois -- think they have at least an equally good chance.


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  • #2
    I don't think too many people bought his speech, the Dow is down again.
    "Be Excellent to Each Other"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Brosia View Post
      I don't think too many people bought his speech, the Dow is down again.
      The Dow is down about -155.44 at the moment.

      Actually that is all Obama is good at doing is glossing over things. He reminds me of a used car salesman only he makes them look bad. :D

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      • #4
        "I don't think too many people bought his speech, the Dow is down again."

        Actually according to the poll numbers, people really liked his speech! I even liked some of his speech...but do I believe it? Not on a bet!
        Used car salesman or snake oil salesman, it doesn't matter. We will have to see how this plays out. I'm afraid Obama actually believes his own BS. One thing to note: If that goofy Nancy Pelosi jumped out of her seat one more time cheering him on with her lips all puckered up in the smarmy "neener neener neener" attitude, I might have dumped the TV out on the lawn!:rolleyes:

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        • #5
          His speech WAS very good. He's a good speaker, a very charismatic man, he says lots of encouraging words. I can see why people would believe him- especially when they don't listen !!
          "Be Excellent to Each Other"

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Loshali View Post

            Defending the program Tuesday at a Senate hearing, Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke said it's important to save some of those people for the greater good. He likened it to calling the fire department to put out a blaze caused by someone smoking in bed.

            "I think the smart way to deal with a situation like that is to put out the fire, save him from his own consequences of his own action but then, going forward, enact penalties and set tougher rules about smoking in bed."

            http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29377101/?GT1=43001
            And there it is. So because some dumbass sets himself on fire, we are all going to burn for it unless the .gov bans smoking in bed to save us from our collective stupidity.
            This is the way they look at everything; penalties, tougher rules for ALL instead of enforcing laws already in existence to prosecute the responsible party. I understand that he is using a metaphor here but this is a prime example of their not-so-hidden agenda to gain control over everything and strip us of our freedoms.
            POW*MIA*KIA Not Forgotten!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by GlockGirl View Post
              And there it is. So because some dumbass sets himself on fire, we are all going to burn for it unless the .gov bans smoking in bed to save us from our collective stupidity.
              This is the way they look at everything; penalties, tougher rules for ALL instead of enforcing laws already in existence to prosecute the responsible party. I understand that he is using a metaphor here but this is a prime example of their not-so-hidden agenda to gain control over everything and strip us of our freedoms.
              Hey GlockGirl, welcome to the board! It is quite obvious you understand and "get it." Great post and I agree! :)

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